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We asked about Ansem's take on rollups being the ideal infra for building specialized apps. "Arbitrum can roll back on anything." "The final state check that your transaction settled is when Ethereum reaches consensus on a block." "Any rollup giving you fast confirmation is actually an illusion." "With optimistic... show more

The Rollup

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The Rollup1 year ago

@blknoiz06 @arbitrum The post in reference which started this discussion:

The Rollup1 year ago

We have spent the last 2 years diving deep into the technical weeds of blockchain design & earned the respect of the technical community. The above clip is part of a discussion about execution vs. consensus as the main bottleneck. There is more nuance in the full segment, which we'd recommend watching (link below). Regardless, we value our role to be a reliable source of education and consistent, correct explanation of deeply technical subjects. We understand the frustration from the community about this short vidoe, and will continue to focus on delivering correct info going forward. Much love.

Ian Norden1 year ago

@_JonahB_ @blknoiz06 @arbitrum Why was a podcast called The Rollup not able or willing to push back against an incorrect understanding about how finality works in rollups? And why is that podcast now spreading that incorrect understanding on twitter?

jasperthefriendlyghost.eth1 year ago

@_JonahB_ @blknoiz06 @arbitrum Bad reporting. Unfollowed.

Vaibhav⚡️1 year ago

@_JonahB_ @blknoiz06 @arbitrum thats not accurate tho @_JonahB_ as a trader on an optimistic hyperliquid, you only need to wait for ethereum DA to be finalised to have full confirmation--not 7days maybe I missed some context

waqwaqattack.eth | Rocket Fuel | 🦇🔊 | 🚀🪐1 year ago

@_JonahB_ @blknoiz06 @arbitrum seriously so bad. how can you post takes like this?

Mav 🛜1 year ago

Hmm, I think we often confuse ordering finality and settlement. In any rollup, ordering finality happens when data is publicly accessible, and the system it is being sent to is in a final state. For optimistic rollups on Ethereum DA, it's transaction time + 2 to 4 minutes to send ordering to the DA and then 12 minutes of DA finalization. For zk-rollups, they often take different trade-offs and don't always post this ordering—so finality can, in fact, be more extended until they share their output proof.

cyp.eth1 year ago

@_JonahB_ @blknoiz06 @arbitrum how do people who objectively have no idea what they are talking about get airtime again?

Dennison1 year ago

@_JonahB_ @blknoiz06 @arbitrum I'm pretty sure this isn't how it works.

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609,710 views • 5 months ago

LIVE NOW - Celestia Interoperability | Nick White & Preston Evans In this episode, we're diving deep into Celestia's vision for cross-chain interoperability with Nick White (COO Celestia 🦣) and Preston Evans (CTO Sovereign). We unpack the foundations of modular blockchains, how shared DA and consensus unlock secure interop between rollups, the concept of "lazy bridging," and why Celestia might just be building the internet of blockchains. If you're trying to grok the future of rollup composability—this is the one. -------------- TIMESTAMPS 0:00 Intro 8:52 Core Blocks of an Interop Ecosystem 13:55 Understanding of Celestia 19:13 Differentiating Ethereum and Celestia 28:13 Emergence of Celestia Ecosystem 37:12 Inventory Risks and Zk Proofing 40:38 Fast Finality and Minimizing Bridges 54:49 Problems with Ethereum 59:40 Beyond Ethereum 01:09:15 Future of Celestia 01:11:05 Closing & Disclaimers

LIVE NOW - Celestia Interoperability | Nick White & Preston Evans In this episode, we're diving deep into Celestia's vision for cross-chain interoperability with Nick White (COO Celestia 🦣) and Preston Evans (CTO Sovereign). We unpack the foundations of modular blockchains, how shared DA and consensus unlock secure interop between rollups, the concept of "lazy bridging," and why Celestia might just be building the internet of blockchains. If you're trying to grok the future of rollup composability—this is the one. -------------- TIMESTAMPS 0:00 Intro 8:52 Core Blocks of an Interop Ecosystem 13:55 Understanding of Celestia 19:13 Differentiating Ethereum and Celestia 28:13 Emergence of Celestia Ecosystem 37:12 Inventory Risks and Zk Proofing 40:38 Fast Finality and Minimizing Bridges 54:49 Problems with Ethereum 59:40 Beyond Ethereum 01:09:15 Future of Celestia 01:11:05 Closing & Disclaimers

Bankless

42,194 views • 1 year ago

American healthcare workers speaks to the insurance company with the patient on the phone Insurance refuses to answer any questions because the patient paying for the insurance is on the phone This is the state of American healthcare “Your contracts with the patient. So the patient should be able to be present for anything we talk about — So you're telling me that just because I have the patient here on the phone, you are not going to discuss anything about this policy with me?” “That is correct”

American healthcare workers speaks to the insurance company with the patient on the phone Insurance refuses to answer any questions because the patient paying for the insurance is on the phone This is the state of American healthcare “Your contracts with the patient. So the patient should be able to be present for anything we talk about — So you're telling me that just because I have the patient here on the phone, you are not going to discuss anything about this policy with me?” “That is correct”

Wall Street Apes

481,461 views • 1 year ago

"It's a sign that crypto actually built infrastructure that works. But is it bullish for the projects and tokens involved? I'm not sure it is" Joshua Frank on what Robinhood building on Arbitrum really means for crypto "There's a reason Robinhood is choosing to do this onchain. They can go 24/7, low fee trading for their customers. But Robinhood is operating all the sequencers behind the scenes. It's their chain, they're controlling everything. It's not like Arbitrum is being used for transactions of any sort" "As we saw with Base and Optimism, loyalty is not necessarily a real thing. But obviously they saw something in Arbitrum's technology they liked, so maybe that's bullish broadly for Arbitrum" "The reality is it probably creates more demand for trading tokenized equities 24/7. Maybe dYdX or other platforms offering that are able to generate fees back to token holders. A few years ago the crypto market would have reacted and ARB would have been up 70% on the day. But this is just a picks and shovels kind of play"

"It's a sign that crypto actually built infrastructure that works. But is it bullish for the projects and tokens involved? I'm not sure it is" Joshua Frank on what Robinhood building on Arbitrum really means for crypto "There's a reason Robinhood is choosing to do this onchain. They can go 24/7, low fee trading for their customers. But Robinhood is operating all the sequencers behind the scenes. It's their chain, they're controlling everything. It's not like Arbitrum is being used for transactions of any sort" "As we saw with Base and Optimism, loyalty is not necessarily a real thing. But obviously they saw something in Arbitrum's technology they liked, so maybe that's bullish broadly for Arbitrum" "The reality is it probably creates more demand for trading tokenized equities 24/7. Maybe dYdX or other platforms offering that are able to generate fees back to token holders. A few years ago the crypto market would have reacted and ARB would have been up 70% on the day. But this is just a picks and shovels kind of play"

The Wolf Of All Streets

31,562 views • 29 days ago