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What if everyone is measuring $MSTR wrong? In this conversation with Adrian Morris, founding member of True North (True North), we challenge some of the biggest assumptions in the Bitcoin Treasury space: • Why mNAV is really a sentiment metric • Why Bitcoin per share isn't a valuation metric...

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The Wolf Of All Streets

167,461 views • 1 month ago

My Bitcoin Treasury discussion with Joe Burnett, MSBA. 0:00 – Intro 1:00 – First priority as Director of Bitcoin Strategy 3:11 – Should Bitcoin companies copy MSTR’s preferreds? 5:02 – Structuring credit: BTC Ratings from 2 to 10 6:25 – Long-term CAGR for Bitcoin vs. S&P 500 8:28 – Why Bitcoin has fewer risks than stocks 10:36 – The global index with no counterparty risk 15:14 – Is Bitcoin a global productivity index? 16:56 – Will MSTR join the S&P 500? 18:14 – Why Vanguard owns MSTR 19:23 – Unlocking passive capital for Bitcoin 21:14 – Why BTC companies magnetize capital 23:24 – Mag 7 adoption playbook: fast vs. slow 25:47 – Most CEOs don’t want the money 27:15 – Who should adopt Bitcoin—and who won’t 29:20 – Why MSTR is going all-in on preferreds 31:21 – Preferreds are better than convertibles 32:32 – Will BTC companies still trade above NAV in bear markets? 34:09 – Why 2022 was a crypto-catalyzed bear market 35:14 – The difference between 1.1x and 100x leverage 37:07 – How to defend BTC NAV with credit instruments 39:14 – How to create a Bitcoin short squeeze 41:20 – Why shorts don’t have the courage 43:20 – The future of BTC-backed credit and equity 45:04 – A new theory of Bitcoin corporate finance 49:30 – Copy MSTR: it’s good for everyone 50:26 – Harvard’s outdated Bitcoin case study 52:16 – Why the smartest firms are making bad moves 54:16 – Why academics ignore Strategy’s success 55:15 – How the world could look in four years 57:09 – Final thoughts and wrap-up
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My Bitcoin Treasury discussion with Joe Burnett, MSBA. 0:00 – Intro 1:00 – First priority as Director of Bitcoin Strategy 3:11 – Should Bitcoin companies copy MSTR’s preferreds? 5:02 – Structuring credit: BTC Ratings from 2 to 10 6:25 – Long-term CAGR for Bitcoin vs. S&P 500 8:28 – Why Bitcoin has fewer risks than stocks 10:36 – The global index with no counterparty risk 15:14 – Is Bitcoin a global productivity index? 16:56 – Will MSTR join the S&P 500? 18:14 – Why Vanguard owns MSTR 19:23 – Unlocking passive capital for Bitcoin 21:14 – Why BTC companies magnetize capital 23:24 – Mag 7 adoption playbook: fast vs. slow 25:47 – Most CEOs don’t want the money 27:15 – Who should adopt Bitcoin—and who won’t 29:20 – Why MSTR is going all-in on preferreds 31:21 – Preferreds are better than convertibles 32:32 – Will BTC companies still trade above NAV in bear markets? 34:09 – Why 2022 was a crypto-catalyzed bear market 35:14 – The difference between 1.1x and 100x leverage 37:07 – How to defend BTC NAV with credit instruments 39:14 – How to create a Bitcoin short squeeze 41:20 – Why shorts don’t have the courage 43:20 – The future of BTC-backed credit and equity 45:04 – A new theory of Bitcoin corporate finance 49:30 – Copy MSTR: it’s good for everyone 50:26 – Harvard’s outdated Bitcoin case study 52:16 – Why the smartest firms are making bad moves 54:16 – Why academics ignore Strategy’s success 55:15 – How the world could look in four years 57:09 – Final thoughts and wrap-up

Michael Saylor

484,592 views • 1 year ago

🔥MSTR WILL BE WORTH TRILLIONS - SHAREHOLDERS ARE THE NEW WEALTHY ELITE🔥 In this video, I break down why Strategy, ticker MSTR, will become one the most important public company on Earth. Most people look at MSTR and scream about mNAV, dilution, debt, preferreds, and premiums like they just discovered a calculator in a gas station bathroom. But the real question is simple: How much Bitcoin economically belongs to common shareholders after senior claims? When you factor in STRC, preferred capital, senior claims, common issuance, and Bitcoin appreciation, the upside starts looking genuinely absurd. In this video, I break down: Why Bitcoin looks historically cheap versus its 4-year moving average How Strategy’s current Bitcoin stack could be worth $1 trillion by 2030 How STRC can function as a Bitcoin accumulation engine Why Strategy has multiple paths to a trillion-dollar valuation ...and why MSTR shareholders will become the new wealthy elite:
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🔥MSTR WILL BE WORTH TRILLIONS - SHAREHOLDERS ARE THE NEW WEALTHY ELITE🔥 In this video, I break down why Strategy, ticker MSTR, will become one the most important public company on Earth. Most people look at MSTR and scream about mNAV, dilution, debt, preferreds, and premiums like they just discovered a calculator in a gas station bathroom. But the real question is simple: How much Bitcoin economically belongs to common shareholders after senior claims? When you factor in STRC, preferred capital, senior claims, common issuance, and Bitcoin appreciation, the upside starts looking genuinely absurd. In this video, I break down: Why Bitcoin looks historically cheap versus its 4-year moving average How Strategy’s current Bitcoin stack could be worth $1 trillion by 2030 How STRC can function as a Bitcoin accumulation engine Why Strategy has multiple paths to a trillion-dollar valuation ...and why MSTR shareholders will become the new wealthy elite:

Adam Livingston

23,786 views • 4 months ago

🔥I BOUGHT MORE MSTR BECAUSE THE MATH IS INSANE!🔥 In this video, I expose why Strategy (MSTR) is the most undervalued Bitcoin superweapon in the market. And why Wall Street still thinks it’s a Bitcoin ETF with a gambling problem. While your financial advisor is feeding your retirement into a 60/40 woodchipper, Saylor is out here issuing STRC like it’s methadone for bond managers. 11% yield, monthly payouts, and they don’t even realize they’re buying him more Bitcoin on your behalf. STRC is the fixed-income trojan horse. MSTR is the orange citadel it funds. I break down the STRC flywheel, the 5% mNAV premium arbitrage, the recursive BTC-per-share compounding mechanism, and how MSTR can grow your Bitcoin stack by 17%, 34%, or even 51% this year alone... WITHOUT A SINGLE DOLLAR OF NEW DILUTION! THIS IS THE ORANGE SINGULARITY:
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🔥I BOUGHT MORE MSTR BECAUSE THE MATH IS INSANE!🔥 In this video, I expose why Strategy (MSTR) is the most undervalued Bitcoin superweapon in the market. And why Wall Street still thinks it’s a Bitcoin ETF with a gambling problem. While your financial advisor is feeding your retirement into a 60/40 woodchipper, Saylor is out here issuing STRC like it’s methadone for bond managers. 11% yield, monthly payouts, and they don’t even realize they’re buying him more Bitcoin on your behalf. STRC is the fixed-income trojan horse. MSTR is the orange citadel it funds. I break down the STRC flywheel, the 5% mNAV premium arbitrage, the recursive BTC-per-share compounding mechanism, and how MSTR can grow your Bitcoin stack by 17%, 34%, or even 51% this year alone... WITHOUT A SINGLE DOLLAR OF NEW DILUTION! THIS IS THE ORANGE SINGULARITY:

Adam Livingston

31,581 views • 8 months ago

How does Strategy navigate a challenging Bitcoin market, return $STRC to par, and continue compounding Bitcoin per share? In our Q2 earnings call, we laid out the strategy, reviewed our financial position and capital-management framework, and answered questions from equity analysts and industry experts. Prepared Remarks 00:00:00 - Welcome 00:01:20 - 843,775 BTC, 203,683 sats per share, $17B raised year to date, and Strategy’s position as the largest institutional holder of Bitcoin 00:03:27 - Q2 balance sheet: $49.7B of digital assets, $3.75B current USD reserve, lower debt, higher preferred equity, and strong stress-case coverage 00:08:57 - Bitcoin KPIs: 4.5% BTC Yield, 29,997 BTC Gain, and ~3.6x growth in Bitcoin per share since 2020 00:12:47 - Q2 execution: higher Bitcoin holdings, lower debt, larger USD reserves, stronger Bitcoin per share, and active capital management 00:15:03 - Strategy as a net buyer of Bitcoin and net issuer of Digital Credit: 48x more BTC bought than sold and 300x more Digital Credit issued than repurchased 00:18:47 - Returning $STRC to $99–$100 through USD reserves, Bitcoin monetization, repurchases, dividend management, and disciplined issuance 00:24:50 - Bitcoin liquidity: why Strategy’s bitcoin purchases and sales are not material to overall Bitcoin trading volume 00:33:03 - Bitcoin as Digital Capital: website metrics, the 200-week moving average, current headwinds, Bitcoin Dominance, banking adoption, and security coordination 00:44:08 - $STRC as flagship Digital Credit: liquidity, lower volatility, market depth, yield, investor base, path to par, and updated credit metrics 01:05:04 - Equity framework: hurdle rate, breakeven rate, floor rate, market skepticism, $MSTR outperformance, franchise advantages, and Strategy’s long-term ambition Q&A 01:19:31 - Why Bitcoin-backed borrowing is not currently the preferred path to build USD reserves 01:23:11 - Why Strategy is consolidating around $STRC instead of creating more instruments or selling volatility 01:40:37 - Equitizing, repaying, or refinancing convertible debt 01:43:18 - Covered calls, cash-secured puts, Digital Credit, Bitcoin as money, and marketing products to the 99% outside Bitcoin 01:59:22 - USD reserve minimums and the path to $STRC trading at par 02:00:55 - Amplification, USD/BTC reserve mix, and countercyclical capital management 02:12:04 - Why Strategy does not intend to issue $STRC below par 02:20:34 - Lessons from 2022 and 2026, tokenized securities, Digital Money, and the June 26 $STRC dislocation 02:34:54 - Closing remarks
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How does Strategy navigate a challenging Bitcoin market, return $STRC to par, and continue compounding Bitcoin per share? In our Q2 earnings call, we laid out the strategy, reviewed our financial position and capital-management framework, and answered questions from equity analysts and industry experts. Prepared Remarks 00:00:00 - Welcome 00:01:20 - 843,775 BTC, 203,683 sats per share, $17B raised year to date, and Strategy’s position as the largest institutional holder of Bitcoin 00:03:27 - Q2 balance sheet: $49.7B of digital assets, $3.75B current USD reserve, lower debt, higher preferred equity, and strong stress-case coverage 00:08:57 - Bitcoin KPIs: 4.5% BTC Yield, 29,997 BTC Gain, and ~3.6x growth in Bitcoin per share since 2020 00:12:47 - Q2 execution: higher Bitcoin holdings, lower debt, larger USD reserves, stronger Bitcoin per share, and active capital management 00:15:03 - Strategy as a net buyer of Bitcoin and net issuer of Digital Credit: 48x more BTC bought than sold and 300x more Digital Credit issued than repurchased 00:18:47 - Returning $STRC to $99–$100 through USD reserves, Bitcoin monetization, repurchases, dividend management, and disciplined issuance 00:24:50 - Bitcoin liquidity: why Strategy’s bitcoin purchases and sales are not material to overall Bitcoin trading volume 00:33:03 - Bitcoin as Digital Capital: website metrics, the 200-week moving average, current headwinds, Bitcoin Dominance, banking adoption, and security coordination 00:44:08 - $STRC as flagship Digital Credit: liquidity, lower volatility, market depth, yield, investor base, path to par, and updated credit metrics 01:05:04 - Equity framework: hurdle rate, breakeven rate, floor rate, market skepticism, $MSTR outperformance, franchise advantages, and Strategy’s long-term ambition Q&A 01:19:31 - Why Bitcoin-backed borrowing is not currently the preferred path to build USD reserves 01:23:11 - Why Strategy is consolidating around $STRC instead of creating more instruments or selling volatility 01:40:37 - Equitizing, repaying, or refinancing convertible debt 01:43:18 - Covered calls, cash-secured puts, Digital Credit, Bitcoin as money, and marketing products to the 99% outside Bitcoin 01:59:22 - USD reserve minimums and the path to $STRC trading at par 02:00:55 - Amplification, USD/BTC reserve mix, and countercyclical capital management 02:12:04 - Why Strategy does not intend to issue $STRC below par 02:20:34 - Lessons from 2022 and 2026, tokenized securities, Digital Money, and the June 26 $STRC dislocation 02:34:54 - Closing remarks

Michael Saylor

328,281 views • 1 month ago

Welcome back to The Bitcoin Treasuries Podcast. Today's guest is Michael Mescher, CEO of Gammon Capital. Michael and I discuss derivatives, institutional capital, balance sheet protection, and the future of Bitcoin treasury management. Here's my conversation with Michael Mescher. 0:00 - Intro 0:40 – Michael’s path from derivatives to Bitcoin treasury strategy 3:18 – What a 50% collateral haircut really means for a Bitcoin treasury company 11:15 – The coming $10 billion "Put Wall" and why 2027 matters 13:21 – Why Bitcoin treasury companies are paying too much for capital 15:02 – Using derivatives as balance sheet protection - not speculation 16:55 – Building a Bitcoin treasury playbook for bear and sideways markets 19:05 – What Michael Saylor gets right about financial engineering 22:15 – What separates the strongest Bitcoin treasury companies from the rest 24:42 – Why the market still hasn't built a better Bitcoin credit facility 26:54 – How Bitcoin treasury companies can unlock institutional capital 29:04 – Managing asset-liability mismatches on a Bitcoin balance sheet 32:38 – Capital efficient hedging strategies for downside protection 34:46 – How to sell a hedging strategy to a long-only Bitcoin executive 37:17 – What a strategic engagement with Gammon Capital looks like 38:18 - Where to find Michael Mescher and Gammon Capital
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Welcome back to The Bitcoin Treasuries Podcast. Today's guest is Michael Mescher, CEO of Gammon Capital. Michael and I discuss derivatives, institutional capital, balance sheet protection, and the future of Bitcoin treasury management. Here's my conversation with Michael Mescher. 0:00 - Intro 0:40 – Michael’s path from derivatives to Bitcoin treasury strategy 3:18 – What a 50% collateral haircut really means for a Bitcoin treasury company 11:15 – The coming $10 billion "Put Wall" and why 2027 matters 13:21 – Why Bitcoin treasury companies are paying too much for capital 15:02 – Using derivatives as balance sheet protection - not speculation 16:55 – Building a Bitcoin treasury playbook for bear and sideways markets 19:05 – What Michael Saylor gets right about financial engineering 22:15 – What separates the strongest Bitcoin treasury companies from the rest 24:42 – Why the market still hasn't built a better Bitcoin credit facility 26:54 – How Bitcoin treasury companies can unlock institutional capital 29:04 – Managing asset-liability mismatches on a Bitcoin balance sheet 32:38 – Capital efficient hedging strategies for downside protection 34:46 – How to sell a hedging strategy to a long-only Bitcoin executive 37:17 – What a strategic engagement with Gammon Capital looks like 38:18 - Where to find Michael Mescher and Gammon Capital

Tim Kotzman

25,225 views • 2 months ago