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It's a stupid analogy because it literally presupposes your erroneous Protestant understanding of salvation. The establishment of family ties, on a genetic basis (which is what you stated) begins and ends at a singular point in time - conception. Classic false equivalence.

Yes… the believer is justified at a singular point in time by grace through faith in Christ.

what do you think of this music video?

Amen! “No power of Hell, no scheme of man, could ever pluck me from His hand!” The work is Christ’s and it is finished! He shall lose nothing of all that was given Him. Given by God, Paid for by Christ, sealed by the Spirit… nothing can overpower Power itself. 🤷♀️

Perfectly said! Professing believers who think they can ever lose their salvation are trusting themselves over Gods written Word and the finished work of the cross. Which is robbing themselves of the assurance that the Lord graciously gives us. All of Romans 8 beautifully captures exactly this, but to keep it short: “No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. For I am sure that neither death nor life, nor angels nor rulers, nor things present nor things to come, nor powers, nor height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.” Romans 8:37-39 Nothing. No exceptions. Once saved, always saved.

I really liked the video, but I do ultimately disagree with your conclusion (shocker lol). I think the prodigal son is a great example of this idea of losing salvation. He was in the Father's house, he was His son, he had all the rights & privileges associated with that, etc...

Bad analogy. Think of the parable of the prodigal son, But the father said to his servants, ‘Bring quickly the best robe, and put it on him; and put a ring on his hand, and shoes on his feet; and bring the fatted calf and kill it, and let us eat and make merry; for this my son was dead, and is alive again; he was lost, and is found.’ And they began to make merry. - Luke 15:22-24 You can be born, married or adopted into a family, you can make promises and commitments to that family, but then betray, reject and walk out on them. But that's why we're called to repent of our sins, we're called to repent of those times we betray, reject or walk out on those around us and ultimately on God so that we can be reconciled.

The one thing that I think that conditional security advocates don’t want to admit is that God must remove His Spirit from you (Ephesians 1:13-14) for your salvation to be forfeit… And He has promised to never do that (Heb 13:5)

Well-said. How can we unseal what Mighty God has sealed within us? How can we pry ourselves away from hand of God? Why would we desire to if our hearts are new and we are new creatures? If a heart has not been changed, then yes they can walk away. They were not of us.

Blue And Jesus bless you.

No human can walk away from being in the image of God, and yet imagers will go to hell. We are grafted into Christ and branches are cut off. Your view is gnosticin nature. You say the people who walk away never actually believed because they didn't actually understand. So you have the secret knowledge and others thought they did, and because you have the secret knowledge you are saved. I know you would object that it's 'secret' but you won't be able to point to a clear delineating difference between a person who professes believes all the same things you do and walks away years later. So it's secret and you'll probably just point to a sin they struggled with and blame it on that. This viewpoint is heretical, unchristian, unloving, and retarded.
