When she asked, “Why aren’t South Africans fighting against white foreigners as well?” I was genuinely annoyed because it completely misses the point. White South Africans or foreigners generally aren’t competing with illegal migrants for limited public resources. Most don’t live in townships or informal settlements where the pressure... on public clinics, schools and low skilled jobs is felt most. Poor black South Africans do. That’s why this issue is experienced differently. It’s not about race. It’s about who is directly affected by the competition for already stretched public resources. People who live side by side with illegal migrants and rely on the same public services are naturally going to have different concerns from those who don’t. Their experiences deserve to be acknowledged, not reduced to accusations of xenophobia. I don’t know why she and everyone including the government and politicians don’t get it. I’m not directly affected by illegal immigrants but I can’t dismiss the lived experiences of people who are affected by them.show more

Any person with the same skin colour,from the same continent as you is a foreigner,but a person not from African decent but from another continent is part of you. 😂 You let them control 80% of your resources while you battle crumbs with fellow Africans.

Just because we share the same skin colour doesn’t mean we are the same. We are not a monolith.

@Lone_Tiger1 You need to rewire your mentality this is why you were in apartheid for so long. Delusional.

@Lone_Tiger1 You should rewire yours because it was wired your countries wouldn’t be a shitholes. You wouldn’t have fled to Europe dimwit

Some of you are so predictable, it's sickening! It's always a black SAn that's always explaining why a white immigrant should be exempted from receiving the same treatment as black immigrants. Damn!

@Vhoyde Illegal white immigrants enjoy the benefits of South Africa while remitting their earnings abroad, driving up property prices and pricing South Africans out of their own neighbourhoods. Yet the focus remains on the occasional African migrant seeking basic healthcare. Laughable

@Vhoyde Illegal white immigrants use private health facilities. Why can’t illegal Africans do the same too? When I travel I always pay for my insurance. I don’t expect countries to foot the bill for me.

@AusEMDi @Vhoyde Too many flaws in your argument but carry on.

@AusEMDi @Vhoyde You don’t live in SA so of course you wouldn’t understand have a lovely evening.

When thinking becomes painful.

Coming from a Zimbabwean? Spare me the BS.

Black south africans have a long way to understanding the world , but the fact that they provoked the situation earlier this year doesn't mean they wont go unpunished by the west , Cape Independence is now a reality , with african immigrants out of the way , they will have to

Tsek with your cape independence. Go home and fix your shithole

@Mikequbec Ours is a shit hole too, it’s funny you people think you live in Cape Town 😂😂😂😂

@Mikequbec Nigeria is a shithole

@MichaelPneazy @Mikequbec South Africa is a racist segregated banana republic

@_BellaM_ @MichaelPneazy They enjoy the segregation they find it normal

@_BellaM_ @MichaelPneazy They have to, they have no choice, they have been and still dependent on Boer economy for centuries.. This is the only non independent country in Africa. They are only free from some apartheid laws

@_BellaM_ @MichaelPneazy I will respect the black south african the day he stands alone in life rather than lean on the Boer for all eternity,

Why would whites compete at the lowest level. They control the means of production while black natives fight for spaza shops and cleaning jobs

I have a company and 5 applicants from around the world apply including my country, it is not by law that I should employ my country men, after interviews the best candidate will get the position. This girl is very dull.

In South Africa it’s by law. In your country it’s not and that’s ok and I wouldn’t argue with your laws. If we are dull good. You cannot apply the laws of your country in my country.

Your law requires you to employ a non qualified person over a qualified person 🤔, that right there is a reason why you all don’t own successful businesses.

I don’t think you watched the video. South Africa has a Critical Skills Visa that allows employers to recruit from outside the country when there isn’t a suitably qualified South African to fill the role. The issue is about scarce skills, not replacing qualified people with unqualified ones. However, I see that you are trying to drive an agenda especially with the last part of your statement. Have a lovely a day in your rich Zambia where everyone owns a business. 😊

I clearly watched the video and every other videos before, smart people don’t do things violently. Chasing away people that have the legal documentation to be there and work there is what we’re against.

@_BellaM_ You watched but didn’t listen. She said it’s by law that an employer who wishes to hire foreign should make sure that there is no QUALIFIED SOUTH AFRICAN who can do the job. Use your ears not just your eyes to “watch”

@_BellaM_ Y’all have comprehension problems 😂, the fella up there stated “It is by Law” SA first and I even a simple example of 1 position and 5 individuals consisting foreigners. For you to apply means you’re qualified, but I will not pick you just because you’re my country men,

@_BellaM_ I will pick the most qualified if it’s a Nigerian, American or Chinese, but that is where you guys have a problem 😂.

You and me 🤞🏾 I generally don’t opine on this issue because my lived experience is very different and quite frankly doesn’t matter because I don’t compete for resources.

I thought it was about illegal migration?if so it should be extended to whites also but when you switch it up and say whites don’t compete with locals it means you are saying you don’t really hate illegal migration,you hate when poor blacks do it.

"White South Africans or foreigners generally aren’t competing with illegal migrants" WTF? So according to you there are no illegal white people?

White South Africans or foreigners generally aren’t competing with illegal migrants for limited public resources. Yes precisely because they control our resources and enjoying the wealth of the land!

So why are you fighting Nigerians that don’t live in black townships? It’s not about location, it’s about hatred for blacks.

So how are the resources limited only to black South Africans and not White South Africans? Don't y'all live in the same country. And how is this disparity an immigration problem? Why can't the poor South African access resources in White "spaces"?

this is the most insane thing i have ever read, of course whites are not competing with black people they took everything. Absolutely Everything.

“White South Africans or foreigners generally aren’t competing with illegal migrants for limited public resources.” My SA’ns man 🤦🏾‍♂️. So being confined to townships and informal settlements on your own land isn’t a clue?

An illegal foreigner has no colour my friend. Where they stay doesn’t matter because public services and infrastructure are shared across geographical boundaries and races.

Your annoyance means absolutely nothing. The chants are illegal foreigners must go and sometimes all foreigners must go! Next minute, the half men are *bowing* before the white masters all the way from Germany giving honorary citizenship. 😅🤷🏿‍♂️

The fact that White South Africans owns 80% of your land, which they took illegally, whilst you are cramped together in Mukhukhus don’t bother/affect you??? Something that you live on a daily basis. It’s only the public services that bother you???

It's always a black south African that defends white people in SA. Independence is this country is only in text books.complaining about the govnt yet they keep voting for it

It’s not my problem that you can’t comprehend basic English. Nowhere did she or my post defend white people. We are basically educating you on what’s happening in South Africa specifically in poor black people’s communities. Those illegal immigrants don’t live in white and black middle class communities. They fight for crumbs with the poor. You are from Zambia so your opinion on this matter doesn’t matter especially with the way Zambia it is.

So you should have asked the illegal immigrants to move to other suburbs where they don't compete with you for resources. We label it not only Xenophobic but Afrophobic. We do not have problem with you protesting, we are against the violent manner you do it, papers or no papers

Are you against illegal migration yes or no?if yes then make sure whites are also staying legally,what you are saying is if i as a black have the means i can come to south Africa illegally,stay in the white rich areas,dont compete with locals and you will let me be?

Also the fact that white South Africans aren’t immigrants?

But the white immigrants are the reasons black South Africans are scrambling for crumbs, and remain at the lower rung of the economic ladder. They (whites)feed fat and fed their dogs first, while blacks are fighting over crumbs that’s wiped off the table. The anger is misplaced.

This conversation keeps changing posts, people are dying, people are sleeping outside people are losing their livelihoods because of a cause that is confused! There shall be a balance and it shall be just.

Because the white foreigners are 99% legal by holding a valid work permit in South Africa, whilst 50% of the black foreigners are completely illegal. The police should be arresting the illegal people and leaving the legal people alone. Pity the local mob don't understand this

Yah that's because they don't fight for scraps ,they have taken over what's relevant

You have no redress with foreigners who own your land, mines, companies, making millions of rands in profits while you wallow in poverty. Rather the foreign waiter, maid is your enemy?

Why do you insist that the pressure on public infrastructure is because of limited resources, and not maladministration of available resources? Who is telling you that the resources are limited?

When ever someone say "it's not about race" just know it's 100% about race

So fighting for spaza shops and lines at a gov. Hospital is this the ONLY thing that matters?!!! 😭Lona la dlala shem... Le tla utlwa ka letlalo when the is a white president & the racial problems you choose to ignore come back 10 times more

Omggg so they never created apathied. They never stole land and resources. Wow you are a slave

The reality though is that March & March, Abahambe etc is reset button to curb rampant illegal immigration. The system was getting flooded. There will be a time of respite before the wave starts again. The trick has to be South Africans locking down opportunities

So it means they are focused on the wrong struggle then.. why are there millions of poor black south Africans? while there rich white people?? Chasing poor black foreigners won't solve the issue.. Or this a poverty crown competition?

Valid point. All of these should point to a failure in central governance. Yet sadly its first going to fall on really really poor illegal immigrants and likely white people after that.

Do you hear yourselves? Basically, are you saying that segregation, which the Martin Luther Kings fought against in the USA, is condoned and encouraged in SA at the detriment of the black man? Why are black South Africans not in so-called white settlements?