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When should you start post-training your own models? Fireworks CEO Lin Qiao’s answer: after product-market fit. Not because it's hard... but because only after PMF is the data coming off your product surface worth training on. Lin joined us for our Sequoia Capital "Own Your Intelligence" event to host...

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42,398 次观看 • 4 个月前

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When Mudith Jayasekara and I met Gabe Pereyra, we were expecting just another vanilla intro call and instead had the best yarn about research, the state of LLMs, and where intelligence is actually heading. It's rare to meet a founder this deep in the weeds who's also building for one of the most important verticals in this new age of intelligence So it was awesome to sit down with Gabe for an extended discussion on what it take to build agents that can reliably complete work over hours, days, or even longer? We talked about why agents today struggle with search and long context windows and how techniques like KV-cache compaction, synthetic data, and continual learning could help. 0:00 Introduction 0:36 Getting legal agents to review the whole data room 2:08 Data rooms larger than any context window 5:28 How far open-source models can go 7:58 Where specialist models fit in legal AI 10:59 Training legal models when client data is off-limits 13:06 Teaching a model how a law firm works 13:59 What belongs in context vs. model weights 15:36 From firm-wide AI to a model for every lawyer 18:37 What training adds beyond retrieving the right cases 20:26 Why context windows have plateaued 24:01 How models could learn continuously on the job 26:12 Can AI recursively improve AI research? 27:07 Research agents can run experiments but not choose them 30:00 Why open-ended research is hard to train 33:47 Why deployment, not intelligence, is the bottleneck 35:08 The cost of frontier intelligence 36:59 Different neolabs, different paths to intelligence 39:26 Using open datasets to compare research methods 41:13 Conclusion
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When Mudith Jayasekara and I met Gabe Pereyra, we were expecting just another vanilla intro call and instead had the best yarn about research, the state of LLMs, and where intelligence is actually heading. It's rare to meet a founder this deep in the weeds who's also building for one of the most important verticals in this new age of intelligence So it was awesome to sit down with Gabe for an extended discussion on what it take to build agents that can reliably complete work over hours, days, or even longer? We talked about why agents today struggle with search and long context windows and how techniques like KV-cache compaction, synthetic data, and continual learning could help. 0:00 Introduction 0:36 Getting legal agents to review the whole data room 2:08 Data rooms larger than any context window 5:28 How far open-source models can go 7:58 Where specialist models fit in legal AI 10:59 Training legal models when client data is off-limits 13:06 Teaching a model how a law firm works 13:59 What belongs in context vs. model weights 15:36 From firm-wide AI to a model for every lawyer 18:37 What training adds beyond retrieving the right cases 20:26 Why context windows have plateaued 24:01 How models could learn continuously on the job 26:12 Can AI recursively improve AI research? 27:07 Research agents can run experiments but not choose them 30:00 Why open-ended research is hard to train 33:47 Why deployment, not intelligence, is the bottleneck 35:08 The cost of frontier intelligence 36:59 Different neolabs, different paths to intelligence 39:26 Using open datasets to compare research methods 41:13 Conclusion

Charlie O'Neill

91,088 次观看 • 25 天前

How GPT-5 thinks, with OpenAI VP of Research Jerry Tworek 00:00 - Intro 01:01 - What Reasoning Actually Means in AI 02:32 - Chain of Thought: Models Thinking in Words 05:25 - How Models Decide How Long to Think 07:24 - Evolution from o1 to o3 to GPT-5 11:00 - The Road to OpenAI: Growing up in Poland, Dropping out of School, Trading 20:32 - Working on Robotics and Rubik's Cube Solving 23:02 - A Day in the Life: Talking to Researchers 24:06 - How Research Priorities Are Determined 26:53 - OpenAI's Culture of Transparency 29:32 - Balancing Research with Shipping Fast 31:52 - Using OpenAI's Own Tools Daily 32:43 - Pre-Training Plus RL: The Modern AI Stack 35:10 - Reinforcement Learning 101: Training Dogs 40:17 - The Evolution of Deep Reinforcement Learning 42:09 - When GPT-4 Seemed Underwhelming at First 45:39 - How RLHF Made GPT-4 Actually Useful 48:02 - Unsupervised vs Supervised Learning 49:59 - GRPO and How DeepSeek Accelerated US Research 53:05 - What It Takes to Scale Reinforcement Learning 55:36 - Agentic AI and Long-Horizon Thinking 59:19 - Alignment as an RL Problem 1:01:11 - Winning ICPC World Finals Without Specific Training 1:05:53 - Applying RL Beyond Math and Coding 1:09:15 - The Path from Here to AGI 1:12:23 - Pure RL vs Language Models
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How GPT-5 thinks, with OpenAI VP of Research Jerry Tworek 00:00 - Intro 01:01 - What Reasoning Actually Means in AI 02:32 - Chain of Thought: Models Thinking in Words 05:25 - How Models Decide How Long to Think 07:24 - Evolution from o1 to o3 to GPT-5 11:00 - The Road to OpenAI: Growing up in Poland, Dropping out of School, Trading 20:32 - Working on Robotics and Rubik's Cube Solving 23:02 - A Day in the Life: Talking to Researchers 24:06 - How Research Priorities Are Determined 26:53 - OpenAI's Culture of Transparency 29:32 - Balancing Research with Shipping Fast 31:52 - Using OpenAI's Own Tools Daily 32:43 - Pre-Training Plus RL: The Modern AI Stack 35:10 - Reinforcement Learning 101: Training Dogs 40:17 - The Evolution of Deep Reinforcement Learning 42:09 - When GPT-4 Seemed Underwhelming at First 45:39 - How RLHF Made GPT-4 Actually Useful 48:02 - Unsupervised vs Supervised Learning 49:59 - GRPO and How DeepSeek Accelerated US Research 53:05 - What It Takes to Scale Reinforcement Learning 55:36 - Agentic AI and Long-Horizon Thinking 59:19 - Alignment as an RL Problem 1:01:11 - Winning ICPC World Finals Without Specific Training 1:05:53 - Applying RL Beyond Math and Coding 1:09:15 - The Path from Here to AGI 1:12:23 - Pure RL vs Language Models

Matt Turck

451,229 次观看 • 10 个月前

Perplexity CEO Aravind Srinivas on the biggest threat to the data center industry: It's not competition. It's not regulation. It's decentralisation. "The biggest threat to a data center is if the intelligence can be packed locally on a chip that's running on the device and then there's no need to inference all of it on like one centralized data center." He outlines how this could work in practice. Personalisation doesn't necessarily require on-device model training. Retrieval augmented generation, tool calls, and local data can already tailor AI to individual users. But the real unlock? Test time training. Aravind Srinivas describes a future where AI lives on your device, watches how you work and gradually automates your repetitive tasks. "Imagine we crack test time training where the AI watches tasks you repeatedly do on your local system, adapts to you over time and starts automating a lot of the things you do." The key insight: in this model, the intelligence belongs to you. It's your data, your device, your personalised AI brain. And if that future arrives, the economics of centralised infrastructure start to collapse. "That really disrupts the whole data center industry. It doesn't make sense to spend all this money, 500 billion, 5 trillion, whatever on building all the centralized data centers across the world that do a lot of the intelligence workloads for people." The companies spending trillions on centralised infrastructure may want to rethink where intelligence actually needs to live.
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Perplexity CEO Aravind Srinivas on the biggest threat to the data center industry: It's not competition. It's not regulation. It's decentralisation. "The biggest threat to a data center is if the intelligence can be packed locally on a chip that's running on the device and then there's no need to inference all of it on like one centralized data center." He outlines how this could work in practice. Personalisation doesn't necessarily require on-device model training. Retrieval augmented generation, tool calls, and local data can already tailor AI to individual users. But the real unlock? Test time training. Aravind Srinivas describes a future where AI lives on your device, watches how you work and gradually automates your repetitive tasks. "Imagine we crack test time training where the AI watches tasks you repeatedly do on your local system, adapts to you over time and starts automating a lot of the things you do." The key insight: in this model, the intelligence belongs to you. It's your data, your device, your personalised AI brain. And if that future arrives, the economics of centralised infrastructure start to collapse. "That really disrupts the whole data center industry. It doesn't make sense to spend all this money, 500 billion, 5 trillion, whatever on building all the centralized data centers across the world that do a lot of the intelligence workloads for people." The companies spending trillions on centralised infrastructure may want to rethink where intelligence actually needs to live.

Big Brain AI

90,241 次观看 • 5 个月前

BREAKING: AI has eaten the Internet. Data labeling is so over. & $30 trillion of human work is on the verge of automation. Inside The $2.2B AI Research Accelerator, Turing Founder & CEO, Jonathan Siddharth (), joins Sourcery to break down the severe power shift in AI training: from commodity data labeling → expert research Positioning Turing apart from AI data providers like Scale AI, Mercor, & Surge. (00:00) AI Ate The Internet (00:49) Training Superintelligence: the race to AGI (02:31) Viral tweet (03:24) What Turing actually does (04:43) The internet data is “used up” — where will new data come from? (05:34) Four pillars of superintelligence: multimodality, reasoning, tool use, coding (06:07) Automating $30T of global knowledge work (09:18) The $1B revenue opportunity (10:59) Why Turing is a research-first accelerator, not a data labeler (13:45) Jonathan’s Stanford AI Lab roots & founding DNA (17:57) How models are built: pre-training vs. post-training (20:14) RLHF, reinforcement learning, & “breaking the models” (25:19) GPT-5 and the myth of rapid takeoff (30:46) Safety debates and human-in-the-loop systems (34:53) Closing Enterprise Gap: finance, insurance, & pharma (39:23) Why proprietary enterprise data is the next moat in AI
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BREAKING: AI has eaten the Internet. Data labeling is so over. & $30 trillion of human work is on the verge of automation. Inside The $2.2B AI Research Accelerator, Turing Founder & CEO, Jonathan Siddharth (), joins Sourcery to break down the severe power shift in AI training: from commodity data labeling → expert research Positioning Turing apart from AI data providers like Scale AI, Mercor, & Surge. (00:00) AI Ate The Internet (00:49) Training Superintelligence: the race to AGI (02:31) Viral tweet (03:24) What Turing actually does (04:43) The internet data is “used up” — where will new data come from? (05:34) Four pillars of superintelligence: multimodality, reasoning, tool use, coding (06:07) Automating $30T of global knowledge work (09:18) The $1B revenue opportunity (10:59) Why Turing is a research-first accelerator, not a data labeler (13:45) Jonathan’s Stanford AI Lab roots & founding DNA (17:57) How models are built: pre-training vs. post-training (20:14) RLHF, reinforcement learning, & “breaking the models” (25:19) GPT-5 and the myth of rapid takeoff (30:46) Safety debates and human-in-the-loop systems (34:53) Closing Enterprise Gap: finance, insurance, & pharma (39:23) Why proprietary enterprise data is the next moat in AI

Molly O’Shea

70,007 次观看 • 10 个月前

Today, we're joined by Aakanksha Chowdhery, member of technical staff at Reflection, to explore the fundamental shifts required to build true agentic AI. While the industry has largely focused on post-training techniques to improve reasoning, Aakanksha draws on her experience leading pre-training efforts for Google’s PaLM and early Gemini models to argue that pre-training itself must be rethought to move beyond static benchmarks. We explore the limitations of next-token prediction for multi-step workflows and examine how attention mechanisms, loss objectives, and training data must evolve to support long-form reasoning and planning. Aakanksha shares insights on the difference between context retrieval and actual reasoning, the importance of "trajectory" training data, and why scaling remains essential for discovering emergent agentic capabilities like error recovery and dynamic tool learning. 🗒️ For the full list of resources for this episode, visit the show notes page: 📖 CHAPTERS =============================== 00:00 - Introduction 02:26 - Reflection 04:54 - Limitations of post-training for building agents 07:31 - Rethinking pre-training in agents 10:51 - Scaling 11:27 - Evolving attention mechanisms for agentic capabilities 12:39 - Memory as a tool 14:13 - Loss objectives and training data 15:50 - Fine-tuning loss in agent performance 19:37 - Training data 21:29 - Augmenting dominant training data source 24:11 - Overcoming challenges in training on synthetic data 25:47 - Benchmarks 30:44 - Scaling laws in large models versus small models 33:20 - Long-form versus short-form reasoning 37:57 - Agent’s ability to recover from failure 40:15 - Hallucinations and failure recovery 43:53 - Tool use in agents 46:38 - Coding agents 48:37 - How researchers can contribute to agentic AI
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Today, we're joined by Aakanksha Chowdhery, member of technical staff at Reflection, to explore the fundamental shifts required to build true agentic AI. While the industry has largely focused on post-training techniques to improve reasoning, Aakanksha draws on her experience leading pre-training efforts for Google’s PaLM and early Gemini models to argue that pre-training itself must be rethought to move beyond static benchmarks. We explore the limitations of next-token prediction for multi-step workflows and examine how attention mechanisms, loss objectives, and training data must evolve to support long-form reasoning and planning. Aakanksha shares insights on the difference between context retrieval and actual reasoning, the importance of "trajectory" training data, and why scaling remains essential for discovering emergent agentic capabilities like error recovery and dynamic tool learning. 🗒️ For the full list of resources for this episode, visit the show notes page: 📖 CHAPTERS =============================== 00:00 - Introduction 02:26 - Reflection 04:54 - Limitations of post-training for building agents 07:31 - Rethinking pre-training in agents 10:51 - Scaling 11:27 - Evolving attention mechanisms for agentic capabilities 12:39 - Memory as a tool 14:13 - Loss objectives and training data 15:50 - Fine-tuning loss in agent performance 19:37 - Training data 21:29 - Augmenting dominant training data source 24:11 - Overcoming challenges in training on synthetic data 25:47 - Benchmarks 30:44 - Scaling laws in large models versus small models 33:20 - Long-form versus short-form reasoning 37:57 - Agent’s ability to recover from failure 40:15 - Hallucinations and failure recovery 43:53 - Tool use in agents 46:38 - Coding agents 48:37 - How researchers can contribute to agentic AI

The TWIML AI Podcast

44,888 次观看 • 8 个月前

It is very easy to make mistakes when creating evals for your AI product. Shreya Shankar and I run through the most common mistakes in this talk (with memes 🌶️!) . Chapter summaries below: 00:51 Foundation model benchmarks are not the same as your application evals 03:00 Generic Evals Are Useless 04:00 Do not outsource labeling & prompting to non domain experts 09:28 You should make your own data annotation app 12:40 Your LLM prompts should be specific and grounded in error analysis 15:25 Use binary labels 18:57 Look at your data 23:41 Be careful of overfitting to test data 25:40 Do online tests Links more resources in the reply
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It is very easy to make mistakes when creating evals for your AI product. Shreya Shankar and I run through the most common mistakes in this talk (with memes 🌶️!) . Chapter summaries below: 00:51 Foundation model benchmarks are not the same as your application evals 03:00 Generic Evals Are Useless 04:00 Do not outsource labeling & prompting to non domain experts 09:28 You should make your own data annotation app 12:40 Your LLM prompts should be specific and grounded in error analysis 15:25 Use binary labels 18:57 Look at your data 23:41 Be careful of overfitting to test data 25:40 Do online tests Links more resources in the reply

Hamel Husain

46,137 次观看 • 1 年前

An exciting new course: Fine-tuning and Reinforcement Learning for LLMs: Intro to Post-training, taught by Sharon Zhou, VP of AI at AMD. Available now at Post-training is the key technique used by frontier labs to turn a base LLM--a model trained on massive unlabeled text to predict the next word/token--into a helpful, reliable assistant that can follow instructions. I've also seen many applications where post-training is what turns a demo application that works only 80% of the time into a reliable system that consistently performs. This course will teach you the most important post-training techniques! In this 5 module course, Sharon walks you through the complete post-training pipeline: supervised fine-tuning, reward modeling, RLHF, and techniques like PPO and GRPO. You'll also learn to use LoRA for efficient training, and to design evals that catch problems before and after deployment. Skills you'll gain: - Apply supervised fine-tuning and reinforcement learning (RLHF, PPO, GRPO) to align models to desired behaviors - Use LoRA for efficient fine-tuning without retraining entire models - Prepare datasets and generate synthetic data for post-training - Understand how to operate LLM production pipelines, with go/no-go decision points and feedback loops These advanced methods aren’t limited to frontier AI labs anymore, and you can now use them in your own applications. Learn here:
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An exciting new course: Fine-tuning and Reinforcement Learning for LLMs: Intro to Post-training, taught by Sharon Zhou, VP of AI at AMD. Available now at Post-training is the key technique used by frontier labs to turn a base LLM--a model trained on massive unlabeled text to predict the next word/token--into a helpful, reliable assistant that can follow instructions. I've also seen many applications where post-training is what turns a demo application that works only 80% of the time into a reliable system that consistently performs. This course will teach you the most important post-training techniques! In this 5 module course, Sharon walks you through the complete post-training pipeline: supervised fine-tuning, reward modeling, RLHF, and techniques like PPO and GRPO. You'll also learn to use LoRA for efficient training, and to design evals that catch problems before and after deployment. Skills you'll gain: - Apply supervised fine-tuning and reinforcement learning (RLHF, PPO, GRPO) to align models to desired behaviors - Use LoRA for efficient fine-tuning without retraining entire models - Prepare datasets and generate synthetic data for post-training - Understand how to operate LLM production pipelines, with go/no-go decision points and feedback loops These advanced methods aren’t limited to frontier AI labs anymore, and you can now use them in your own applications. Learn here:

Andrew Ng

132,304 次观看 • 9 个月前

OpenAI recently released its first open-weights model since GPT-2, entering a field led by DeepSeek and Alibaba's Qwen. Ankit () breaks down these top OSS models, including what sets them apart under the hood: mixture-of-experts, long-context training, and post-training techniques that shape reasoning and alignment—and how different design choices lead to surprisingly similar performance. 00:00 – OpenAI OSS Launch 01:00 – Comparing Open Source LLM Architectures 01:46 – GPT OSS Overview 02:37 – Under The Hood of GPT OSS 03:25 – Qwen-3 Architecture 04:17 – Qwen-3 Training 05:12 – Qwen-3 Post-Training 06:08 – Qwen-3 Reasoning & RL Innovations 06:52 – DeepSeek V3 Overview 07:40 – DeepSeek V3.1 Updates 08:39 – Attention Mechanism (MLA) 09:39 – Comparing Model Sizes 10:35 – Long Context Strategies 11:25 – Reflections on Methods 12:00 – Takeaways
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OpenAI recently released its first open-weights model since GPT-2, entering a field led by DeepSeek and Alibaba's Qwen. Ankit () breaks down these top OSS models, including what sets them apart under the hood: mixture-of-experts, long-context training, and post-training techniques that shape reasoning and alignment—and how different design choices lead to surprisingly similar performance. 00:00 – OpenAI OSS Launch 01:00 – Comparing Open Source LLM Architectures 01:46 – GPT OSS Overview 02:37 – Under The Hood of GPT OSS 03:25 – Qwen-3 Architecture 04:17 – Qwen-3 Training 05:12 – Qwen-3 Post-Training 06:08 – Qwen-3 Reasoning & RL Innovations 06:52 – DeepSeek V3 Overview 07:40 – DeepSeek V3.1 Updates 08:39 – Attention Mechanism (MLA) 09:39 – Comparing Model Sizes 10:35 – Long Context Strategies 11:25 – Reflections on Methods 12:00 – Takeaways

Y Combinator

208,680 次观看 • 11 个月前

Another quick lecture -- I've been asked many times for prereq's to my book and what you should know, so built a little lecture (with GLM 5.2) to cover some more basics. Topics include: 00:00 Introduction & Course Prerequisites 01:37 Language Models Overview 02:47 The LM Head 04:29 Softmax & Log-Probabilities 06:13 Anatomy of an LM Training Example 06:37 Computing LLM Probabilities (+Phoebe the Dog) 09:52 Three Common Masks in Post-Training 11:03 A Small Decoding Review 12:14 Training an LM: Cross-Entropy 13:23 Optimization & Fine-Tuning 13:55 Pretraining to Midtraining to SFT Pipeline 15:25 Probability Essentials: KL Divergence & Entropy 19:36 Sigmoid & Pairwise Likelihood 20:29 Reinforcement Learning Framing (MDP) 22:28 Transitioning Tools into Post-Training 23:12 Recommended Resources & Wrap-Up  Happy learning and I'm still taking questions from during the course for Q&A videos.
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Another quick lecture -- I've been asked many times for prereq's to my book and what you should know, so built a little lecture (with GLM 5.2) to cover some more basics. Topics include: 00:00 Introduction & Course Prerequisites 01:37 Language Models Overview 02:47 The LM Head 04:29 Softmax & Log-Probabilities 06:13 Anatomy of an LM Training Example 06:37 Computing LLM Probabilities (+Phoebe the Dog) 09:52 Three Common Masks in Post-Training 11:03 A Small Decoding Review 12:14 Training an LM: Cross-Entropy 13:23 Optimization & Fine-Tuning 13:55 Pretraining to Midtraining to SFT Pipeline 15:25 Probability Essentials: KL Divergence & Entropy 19:36 Sigmoid & Pairwise Likelihood 20:29 Reinforcement Learning Framing (MDP) 22:28 Transitioning Tools into Post-Training 23:12 Recommended Resources & Wrap-Up  Happy learning and I'm still taking questions from during the course for Q&A videos.

Nathan Lambert

52,275 次观看 • 1 个月前