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When should you start post-training your own models? Fireworks CEO Lin Qiao’s answer: after product-market fit. Not because it's hard... but because only after PMF is the data coming off your product surface worth training on. Lin joined us for our Sequoia Capital "Own Your Intelligence" event to host... show more
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@FireworksAI_HQ @lqiao @sequoia def watching this

@FireworksAI_HQ @lqiao @sequoia 💚

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@FireworksAI_HQ @lqiao @sequoia I feel like this was the classic case with ML features/pieces of the product in the past too, you have to have traction and users to have data

@FireworksAI_HQ @lqiao @sequoia No. Continual Learning is coming. Post training on domain specific data will be utterly useless.

@FireworksAI_HQ @lqiao @sequoia when pmf is locked in already

There's a second reason the ordering matters, beyond data quality. Post-training bakes behaviour into weights, and pre-PMF the behaviour is exactly what you're still revising. Train early and you've committed a hypothesis you're about to overturn, so every pivot afterwards carries a retraining bill nobody budgeted for. Training runs are cheap now. Unfreezing a decision you already shipped is where the money goes.

@gradypb @FireworksAI_HQ @lqiao @sequoia Interesting

@FireworksAI_HQ @lqiao @sequoia "Not because it's hard... but because only after PMF is the data coming off your product surface worth training on." - claudism.

@FireworksAI_HQ @lqiao @sequoia 没到 PMF,连该优化什么都还在变。

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