whenever people talk about euthanasia I can’t help but remember this youtuber with CF who was coming to terms with fact that she had 3-4 increasingly painful years left to live max then 3 months later a groundbreaking new treatment dropped out of the blue

if she was Canadian, she could have qualified for track 1 MAiD which would have meant dying before she knew help was right around the corner. still alive and doing well 7 years later by the way

the way people in these replies act like choosing death is something you do lightly is so detached from reality. no one picks that path without being out of options.

clearly you’ve never been suicidal if you think this! people in extreme pain will *think* they’re out of options, but almost all of us who’ve suffered suicide attempts can attest now that we were wrong

@chloewigglyp I regret it for a long time actually! it isn’t privileged to decide you simply don’t want to die anymore despite your circumstances. nobody HAS to suffer forever. they just think they do because they’re so overwhelmed by pain in that moment.

@chloewigglyp you actually have no idea what I’ve dealt with. just because someone is more optimistic than you doesn’t mean that they’re privileged or that they’ve suffered less.

@snufftoyfox @chloewigglyp it doesnt mean theyve suffered less but by definition being able to get past it and having this optimism literally is privilege

@snufftoyfox @chloewigglyp no it isn’t. privilege is about the cards you’re dealt, not the way you play them

Whenever people talk about euthanasia I see my trapped, broken older brother's animal eyes, all of 18 yrs old, lying there mangled with a broken neck, begging to die.. for NINE MONTHS. I can play this game too. This was before MAID. He had to die and be revived until braindead

okay, niche case but what about literally any other illness and disease? Someone whos a quadriplegic with no quality of life? Someone with stage 4 terminal cancer? A person with a diagnosis of dementia? We cant deny people peace because "maybe a cure will turn up!!!"

it’s not niche though - plenty of people can find hope unexpectedly. I too would have qualified for MAiD years ago & would have done it if I could - now my quality of life is significantly improved. this specific story represents a bigger picture

Some people can find hope, not everyone. The decision to end one's life on your terms is a deeply personal one that everyone should have the right to take just because Maid exists doesn't mean you HAVE to use it, just gives those who need it the option

the personal decision to end one’s life already exists without suicide being state sanctioned. the only reason I’ve lived this long is because I was prevented from killing myself so death wasn’t an option. had it been, I’d have died years ago.

@Bethanee_ You don't get to deny others dignity in death because you were once suicidal. That is insanely selfish behaviour.

@Bethanee_ you have to be suicidal to apply for assisted suicide idk if you knew that

@Bethanee_ When you were suicidal were you also dying of a terminal illness that had you in constant agony?

@Bethanee_ MAiD doesn’t require a terminal diagnosis. I do have multiple incurable disorders which have caused me immense suffering though which would qualify me for MAiD!

One lucky case vs millions of people suffering for no reason. You are a monster Your god is a monster too

@plona1995 You do realize you’re retarded and believe fake news right

@cecyliastalina @plona1995 im not sure this is fake news. seems pretty credible.

@cecyliastalina @plona1995 Daily mail is not credible news source- I saw the original facebook posts about this and it was mainly being pushed by canadian far right activists

@deadcalm222 @plona1995 👍🏻

The first person in Canada to be approved for MAID had ALS and ended up never taking it. But she said knowing that the *option* was there gave her the freedom to keep going and live her life in a way she wasn't able too before she won the right to MAID.

I'd wager that 99.99 percent of MAID deaths are old people riddled with cancer. To deny them a death with some dignity because the 00.01% of young people that choose MAID for whatever reason could have had a cure within a decade or something is absurd.

Why do you think this is your choice to make and not for the individual to decide? Provided it's an educated decision, they take the risk, not you.

an individual can already decide to take their own lives without it being state sanctioned. this is one of those “educated decisions” you’re defending by the way

This made me think of Claire Wineland. She was the only YouTuber I ever truly followed. I still sometimes wonder if, had she lived just one more year, she might have had the chance to benefit from the new CF treatments that came soon after. May she rest in peace 💐

😢💔 God bless her & those left behind. I’ve heard many stories like this. even within families - eg one sibling with CF died before this drug came out, the other got to receive treatment. hopefully these stories become a thing of the past

En Espagne, durant les discussions concernant le suicide assisté, une phrase devenue une maxime est apparue, "la vie est un droit, pas une obligation". Attention de ne pas vouloir contrôler tout les aspects de la vie de l'autre. Chacun est libre de vouloir s'arrêter de vivre.

and each person can still choose that without death becoming state sanctioned

@No_Stress67 How do you want people committing suicide? The only reliable DIY ways are long drops and things like shotguns, so in an anti-gun country (most of them), that's going to mean expecting an 80 year old with terminal illness to toss themselves off a bridge, and let someone clean up.

@No_Stress67 well actually I’d prefer that nobody did commit suicide at all! but if someone wants to do it I can’t stop them. that doesn’t mean the state should sanction it just to avoid the mess of clean up though.

Ive followed her for many years. Shes a fucking amazing person. She radiates light.

I remember watching these updates live and just sobbing

My family has a family friend with CF who is now in their 60s. She was really blessed when she was younger and now its becoming easier an easier to survive

God bless her 💗

Meanwhile Canada health would be like: we’ve never heard of this treatment, it’s not approved, there’s nothing that can be done for you. Have you tried dying?

"3 months later"? Treatment would have been in clinical trials for at least a year though.

yes it was being developed for decades but she didn’t know about it let alone know that it was coming out any time soon. people with chronic conditions don’t usually know about things like that

it’s funny you mention AIDS, given that medical advancements have made it so that people with HIV can now live long lives without developing AIDS to begin with.

You fucking idiot. Look up how people qualify for maid. Fuck you and your shit for brains. Cunt.

friendliest pro death person ❤️

I love that they don’t call it “government assisted suicide”. The simple fact is the government would rather end your life than provide quality care.

better palliative care.

Right. So you don't apply for MAID then. I don't understand why all of you people think if you don't want to do something that everyone else should feel the exact same way you do. It's like abortion. Don't want one, don't get one.

if you don’t want to beat someone to death with a baseball bat, don’t beat someone to death with a baseball bat! just because you don’t want to do that doesn’t mean I have to agree with you! my swinging arm, my choice!

how evil it is for me to say that some suicidal people should hold onto hope!

@kcshawnxD I love him using the word apathetic which makes absolutely no sense in the context of your post

@kcshawnxD he blocked me 😭

crazy part is, killing yourself will just put you back on earth because you haven’t learned or experienced what you needed to. but i digress

no it won’t

Yeah and those are cheap right? You think everyone can afford it? You think everyone prefers to push their bloodline into generational debt just to live few extra years?

“if you can’t afford medical care you should just die to avoid being a burden on your family”

@nftomancerart So how much do you want your taxes going up? Be specific.

@nftomancerart my taxes and national insurance already pay for socialised healthcare and I live happily with that knowledge.

@nftomancerart That's legitimately great - no snark. But they'd have to vastly increase to avoid euthanasia. That includes making sure that the care workers get paid decently, as well as resurrecting the research base. You might be all for this; most would not be.

@nftomancerart I don’t believe the government should be allowed to cull part of the population in order to keep taxes low & I really could not care less if public opinion disagrees with me on that

@HHillespie Lol where were your opinions during covid then? What do you think it was? You are a vaxxer arent you no wonder your opinions are retarded.

@HHillespie what on God’s green earth are you talking about

in addition to that AI could soon push medicine so far that almost anything could be healed becaude drug development will be insanely cheap

So the one in a million case should be the standard??

The main reason I oppose legal euthanasia. It will absolutely kill motivation to develop cures and treatments, and severely hinder any remaining efforts to do so. You want to test a new treatment? Too bad, everyone with that disease kills themselves.

Dropped out of the blue? That’s an insult to countless hours and many years of research by brilliant hard working scientists and 100s of millions of dollars donated to it.

it appeared out of the blue to the public who had no idea about the work going on. obviously it wasn’t actually created overnight. what a ridiculous thing to get angry about

I’m not angry. I’m simply pointing out it’s ridiculous to say it dropped out of the blue as if the cure was somehow stumbled upon. It was a tremendous effort.

I used to be in the camp of let it exist for people that are suffering but I have now seen how slippery a slope it is and now I'm fully against it

Most people that apply for MAID are in their 70s. 90% qualify for end of life care. MAID is perfectly reasonable policy and its critics are mendacious lunatics.

always one of those retarded mongrels with the vatican flag in their name dropping the stupidest take of all time

Did she afford the treatment?

You do understand that cases like this are rare. If one has terminal cancer the chances of a new effective therapy before the end are practically non existent. One can always hope on a miracle, though they are very few and far apart.

Giving up now is absurd. A tsunami of medical innovation is building. Will break any week/month.

Dumb take. There's always a part where people die just before a cure is developed. That doesnt mean it happens often and sometimes people just can't hang on. Though those who don't suffer really like to let those who do continue on suffering for them.

It’s truly bewildering that so many people in the comments immediately resort to the sentiment of “better to be consigned to oblivion than to have some hope”. Why are they so mad about someone giving the gift of hope especially when supplied real world reasons to do so?