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While AI timeline argues about loop engineering, a 20-year-old student in Shenzhen built the biggest loop anyone's aimed at money: 300 agents, one brain, $1,200 -> 395,000. Not a prompt. Not a bot. A loop that runs the whole job on its own - and never asks him a...

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