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๐๐๐ฒ๐ฟ๐ ๐ด๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ ๐ฏ๐๐ฏ๐ฏ๐น๐ฒ ๐ต๐ฎ๐ฑ ๐น๐ผ๐ผ๐๐ฒ ๐ฐ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฑ๐ถ๐, ๐ฎ ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐น ๐๐ฒ๐ฐ๐ต๐ป๐ผ๐น๐ผ๐ด๐ ๐๐๐ผ๐ฟ๐, ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐น ๐ฒ๐๐๐ฎ๐๐ฒ, ๐ผ๐ฟ ๐ฎ ๐ฝ๐ผ๐น๐ถ๐ฐ๐ ๐ฎ๐ป๐ด๐น๐ฒ. Paul Kedrosky argues this is the first bubble with all four elements at once. We get into: โ Tokens as the fastest-deflating commodity in modern economic history โ Why 80% annual price declines... show more
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Kedrosky's 80% annual token-price decline is the piece that makes the rest of the argument click: the labs need 400% volume growth just to hold revenue flat. That is why the technology story arrives with all four ingredients at once โ volume has to replace price, so loose credit, data-center real estate, and policy have to keep feeding the machine.
@pkedrosky His argument about people rejecting AI data centers due to "loss of agency" isn't supported by the data.

@pkedrosky I like Paul. I was on CNBC with him back in the day debating stocks. With that saidโฆ heโs been saying โAI is in a bubbleโ since early 2025 when AI CapEx was at $300b. Itโs now projected to grow to $1.3T next year. How does that call make investors money?

@pkedrosky I spent five great years working with Paul while at the Kauffman Foundation. Analytical and never afraid to counter the narrative. I still bounce ideas off Paul. Fun person to be around and talk about the future - you can love the future and hate the investment narrative.

@pkedrosky Everyone focuses on the massive data center buildout, but the real sleeper risk is how corporate credit markets absorb that paper when tech capex inevitably meets a growth ceiling

@pkedrosky Tell Paul to talk faster next time

@pkedrosky Regardless of the industry or time, loose credit is the fuel for every asset bubble.

@pkedrosky This is a really great guest. I listen to AI-bubble podcasts every single day of my life and this guy still managed to bring new perspectives.

@pkedrosky Yeah, this is the part that stands out to me too. Itโs not just expensive tech anymore. Credit, capex and growth are all leaning on the same AI story.

@pkedrosky ๐Teacher, your strategic analysis is fantastic!

@pkedrosky What do you thinkd.

@pkedrosky Token prices fall due to capex and compute increasing availability. Once capex stops so do token prices. As soon as demand dries up, capex will slow and token prices too. Only algorithmic innovation can make token prices go down further (and this is true risk for DCs)

@pkedrosky best line - Wiley Coyote v. Road Runner moment in AI financing re: the massive deflationary impact of tokens.

@pkedrosky 2006-07 already ran loose credit, housing and policy with tech still bidding. So 'first' is a stretch. The real novelty is the collateral being the story itself. When the narrative is the asset, the unwind comes faster than anyone expects.

@pkedrosky Agreed
@pkedrosky While token prices have collapsed, the rise of agentic activities has meant a huge rise in token usage - so while tokens have gotten cheaper, AI bills have gone up. It's a fair question though whether that patterns goes forward (programmers -> general enterprise).
