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When I interviewed veteran commercial real estate (CRE) investor Anthony Dilweg, I expected him to say that the bearish headlines about CRE & office were overblown. Instead, he said the headlines weren't bearish enough, & made an analogy to the Titanic hitting the iceberg🚢 This shocking conversation, nearly two hours long, is now released in full. Here are some of the key claims from Dilweg (who in a former life played quarterback for the Green Bay Packers 🏈) on how he is viewing the CRE world: - The huge challenges CRE & office will have to contend with are WORSE than what CRE faced during the 2008 Great Financial Crisis - Office as an asset class is "structurally broken" as remote and hybrid work has caused demand to tank - As vacancy rates skyrocket, over a billion square feet of office asset class (20% of the asset class in the U.S.) will be obsolete over next 3-5 years - "Return to office" trend is vastly overstated. The CEOs may say Monday - Friday is stern policy but utilization rates reveal Tuesday-Thursday is the de facto norm - Banks are "completely overwhelmed" as CRE investors use threat of strategic default (i.e. turning keys back) to aggressively renegotiate their loans. Banks must contend with forbearance, restructuring, and extreme reduction in loan yields (350 basis point declines in loan yields are not unheard of) - The claim that impairments to office as an asset class are just in major cities (NYC, San Francisco, LA) is an overrated narrative. I say to Dilweg (whose 5.5 million square footage portfolio is located in Southeast U.S.) "so you are not quite in the eye of the storm" (I like to support my guests) and he corrects me and says "No, I am." - If Fed doesn't drastically cut rates, there will be tremendous pain felt throughout the entire CRE industry - Some banks are "behaving in an interesting way" and Dilweg speculates that FDIC & OCC might still be operating behind the scenes to prevent more bank failures - Private credit is on the margin replacing some bank financing, but terms are "very punitive" As usual, this interview is available on Forward Guidance podcast and on " Blockworks Macro" YouTube channel Lastly, a big thank you to MetaMask.eth 🦊 Portfolio for sponsoring today's episode Enjoy! 🔥

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