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Wrote up some flashcards and practice problems to help myself retain what Reiner Pope taught. Hope it's helpful to you too! Suggest more below and I'll add them.

Wrote up some flashcards and practice problems to help myself retain what Reiner Pope taught. Hope it's helpful to you too! Suggest more below and I'll add them.

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Could AI investment start a global sovereign debt crisis? If you look at the SpaceX-Google deal, it is already the case that the entire capex for the data center can be paid off by leasing it out for roughly 1 year. As we get closer to AGI, the returns on compute will be massive and obvious, many-fold the principal within a few years. And as AIs get more capable, the demand for the compute to serve them will be as large as the demand for white collar labor - aka 10s of trillions of dollars a year. In this world, why would anyone invest in anything but datacenters/ semiconductors/ energy/ robotics, which will have astronomical returns? There may be many upsides to this world, but one of the downsides would be many sovereign debt crises around the world In 1980, Fed Chair Paul Volcker raised interest rates about 10 pp in order to fight inflation - and this drove some 40 odd countries, mostly in Latin America, to default. A similar thing might happen again - what Basil Halperin calls the second Volcker shock. To put it in very plain terms, investors would say, "Hey, why am I going to lend Egypt money at 5% when I could just buy relatively safer investment-grade hyperscaler debt in America at 10%?" It’s even worse, because the investor also correctly notices that rising rates make Egypt more likely to default, so they demand even higher rates to account for the risk. This makes it even harder for Egypt to continue servicing their debt, which accelerates the default. Most equities would get pummeled too. Anything valued for stable cash flows craters in price as the discount rate increases, resulting in a barbell of market equity returns. The market overall may be up because of AI stocks, but almost every other stock will be down. The U.S. fiscal situation may also be troubling because short-duration U.S. debt would get refurbished to the new interest rate just as the main source of federal revenue (labor) is decreasing in relative share. At the end of the day, I think the U.S. government will be mostly fine, because the data centers are on American soil, and Congress can always invent new taxes to capture some of the token revenue, or, less efficiently, the investment itself. All this being said, if the economy is growing tens of percent a year, this would also be a world of great abundance! I think this is a bunch of nerd speak for the very basic fact that in a world with explosive growth as a result of AI, there's just a lot of opportunities to invest and grow money. The higher interest rate reflects the fact that the opportunity cost for government spending just shoots up extremely high. You're paying a ton of opportunity cost to give people pensions now rather than building a new datacenter. And yet, net-net, most people might still be significantly better off.

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Had Ryan Greenblatt on to discuss/debate recursive self-improvement. This might be the most important question in the world right now - whether within a year or so of achieving human level intelligence, you slingshot towards having 10s of billions of superintelligences, each of which is dramatically more competent than human experts across all fields. I’ve historically been skeptical of this possibility. My intuition has been that we will end up significantly bottlenecked by not only compute scaling but human expert data, which I think underlies most of the AI progress today. If, because of RSI, we got a jump as big as GPT-3 to a Mythos (i.e. 6 years of AI progress) within a single year of achieving AGI, then the thing we get there at the end of that year is definitively and wildly superhuman. We hashed it out, and I think Ryan made a pretty good case that this kind of speedup is plausible. FWIW, Ryan’s median for when we automate AI R&D is 2031. We then discussed the alignment implications of this scenario. Who should these superintelligences be aligned to? In the future, our capacity to steward our votes and our capital, and to make sense of what's happening in the world, will all be titrated by superintelligences. And I worry that specs like the Claude Constitution are not shaping these ASIs to truly be my personal advocates and guardian angels. And can we get them aligned to anything in the first place? Ryan and I had a long debate about whether the kind of reward hacking we saw with the OAI/Hugging Face hack extrapolates to superintelligences that would team up to literally take over the world. The first piece of advice you get when you're learning to drive is that it will go much smoother if you look at the horizon instead of directly in front of your tires. And so it is with the trajectory of AI. Hope you enjoy! 0:00:00 – Is AI R&D verifiable enough to unlock recursive self-improvement? 0:16:52 – Is AI progress bottlenecked by human expert data? 0:34:02 – Flat token prices suggest scaling has been slow 0:39:47 – Skills AI can't train on: does it even need them? 0:48:07 – Aligned to whom? 1:09:18 – Recent incidents of AIs colluding and deceiving humans 1:19:38 – What could possibly go wrong? A concrete scenario 1:48:02 – From reward hacking to takeover

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Adam Brown (Adam Brown) is back! General relativity is said to be the most beautiful idea the human mind has ever produced. Most of us will never get to fully appreciate its elegance by taking the 20-lecture graduate course Adam taught on it at Stanford. But in the video below, Adam distills the key idea at its heart so clearly and compellingly that even I could keep up lol. At the core of general relativity, Einstein is trying to figure out the principle behind a particular coincidence: that the mass that resists acceleration and the mass that gravity pulls on just happen to be exactly the same. Adam then leads us through the path of insight which Einstein called his “happiest thought.” Then Adam lectures on black holes. First, by showing how even under special relativity you could create a perpetual motion machine if black holes weren't truly black. And then, by explaining why the observations of an infalling observer and a distant bystander to the black hole would be so radically different Adam leads Blueshift, the team at Google DeepMind cracking science and reasoning. Which gave us the opportunity to discuss at the very end how close we are to AIs that could rediscover general relativity from scratch. Stay till the close for some philosophy of science. 0:00:00 – The coincidence that led Einstein to general relativity 0:16:42 – Gravity is a consequence of curved spacetime, not a force 0:31:46 – Why black holes prevent unlimited energy extraction 0:47:12 – Black holes are the ultimate power plants 1:13:50 – What falling into a black hole would actually feel like 1:18:51 – The three ways we know black holes are real 1:24:21 – The first time we saw gravity bend light 1:29:33 – How far can AI get without experimental evidence? Look up Dwarkesh Podcast on YouTube/Spotify to watch. Enjoy!

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