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A NOBEL WINNING PHYSICIST ARGUED THAT NO AI, NO MATTER HOW POWERFUL, WILL EVER TRULY UNDERSTAND A SINGLE THING IT SAYS. HIS REASON IS NOT COMPUTE OR DATA -- IT IS A MATH THEOREM FROM THE 1930s THAT SAYS SOME TRUTHS CAN BE SEEN BUT NEVER COMPUTED 81 minutes... with Roger Penrose -- the Oxford physicist who won a Nobel for his work on black holes and general relativity. -> His claim: whatever consciousness is, it is not a computation. A machine following rules can imitate understanding, but never actually have it. He builds it on Gödel: a human can just "see" that certain statements are true, even though no algorithm can ever prove them. That seeing, he argues, is non-computational. If he is right, understanding is not something you scale into. You can stack a trillion parameters and still have zero awareness underneath. Which cuts straight through the AI moment. Everyone assumes bigger models will eventually "wake up". Penrose says that is a category error -- more computation is still just computation. You thought intelligence and understanding were the same thing. This is the conversation that pulls them apart. Save this. It is the sharpest case against the hype ↓show more

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Adding more GPUs will never make a machine conscious. Nobel Prize-winning physicist Roger Penrose just dismantled the entire AI race’s core assumption. Right now, the industry operates on one belief. Build massive data centers. Scale the models. AGI will just “wake up.” Penrose destroys this completely. Penrose: “There is this sort of view that once you make a computer complicated enough or something, it suddenly becomes aware. I just don’t believe that. There’s no reason to believe that.” A machine can compute better than any human alive. But computation is not awareness. Penrose: “There is something quite different involved in understanding things, in being aware of things, of feeling things, which is not part of computations.” We’re confusing rule-following with actual intelligence. Penrose: “The keyword is the word ‘understanding.’ You can follow rules alright, but we don’t understand what we’re doing. The understanding is the key point.” Models today are exceptional at processing data. At mimicking logic. But true understanding requires consciousness. Penrose: “It doesn’t make sense to say of a device that it understands something if it’s not even aware of it. There is something much more profound in being conscious of something.” And here’s what should terrify every AI lab on earth. Penrose: “I believe that the brain is following the laws of physics, sure. We don’t have a good picture of the laws of physics.” Penrose: “Quantum mechanics is not an answer to the way the universe operates. It’s a partial answer. It’s incomplete.” We’re trying to engineer synthetic consciousness using classical computation. While biological consciousness likely operates on physics we haven’t even discovered yet. The race to AGI isn’t just an engineering problem. It’s a frontier science problem. The labs are hiring engineers. The problem might require physicists who don’t exist yet.

Adding more GPUs will never make a machine conscious. Nobel Prize-winning physicist Roger Penrose just dismantled the entire AI race’s core assumption. Right now, the industry operates on one belief. Build massive data centers. Scale the models. AGI will just “wake up.” Penrose destroys this completely. Penrose: “There is this sort of view that once you make a computer complicated enough or something, it suddenly becomes aware. I just don’t believe that. There’s no reason to believe that.” A machine can compute better than any human alive. But computation is not awareness. Penrose: “There is something quite different involved in understanding things, in being aware of things, of feeling things, which is not part of computations.” We’re confusing rule-following with actual intelligence. Penrose: “The keyword is the word ‘understanding.’ You can follow rules alright, but we don’t understand what we’re doing. The understanding is the key point.” Models today are exceptional at processing data. At mimicking logic. But true understanding requires consciousness. Penrose: “It doesn’t make sense to say of a device that it understands something if it’s not even aware of it. There is something much more profound in being conscious of something.” And here’s what should terrify every AI lab on earth. Penrose: “I believe that the brain is following the laws of physics, sure. We don’t have a good picture of the laws of physics.” Penrose: “Quantum mechanics is not an answer to the way the universe operates. It’s a partial answer. It’s incomplete.” We’re trying to engineer synthetic consciousness using classical computation. While biological consciousness likely operates on physics we haven’t even discovered yet. The race to AGI isn’t just an engineering problem. It’s a frontier science problem. The labs are hiring engineers. The problem might require physicists who don’t exist yet.

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Roger Penrose, Nobel Prize-winning physicist and mathematician, explains why we should stop calling it AI and start calling it "artificial cleverness": He believes the entire field is mislabelled, and the label itself is doing damage. His objection is simple but cuts deep: "The name is wrong. It's not artificial intelligence. It's not intelligence. Intelligence would involve consciousness. Well, if it's a machine, it's not conscious." For Penrose, people have confused raw computing power with genuine understanding. "People have lost the plot. They've lost it in the power of computing. The thing is that computers have got so powerful that they've lost the thread of what they're doing. But I think consciousness is something different. It's not computational." He believes the term itself has hypnotized people into a category error: "People are so hypnotized. The trouble is that AI is a bad term. It means artificial intelligence. Now intelligence in my view is conscious. That's what intelligence is about." So he proposes a rename. Artificial Cleverness. AC instead of AI. To illustrate the distinction, Penrose draws on his experience teaching mathematics: "You have mathematics students. Some of them understand what they're doing. Some are just clever. They can repeat what they've learned. They know how to do it very cleverly. They can calculate very well, but they don't necessarily understand what they're doing." That gap, between calculating well and actually understanding, is the gap Penrose sees between today's machines and genuine intelligence. Cleverness can be manufactured. Consciousness, in his view, cannot. So the question worth sitting with: when we call a system "intelligent," are we describing what it does, or quietly assuming something about what it is?

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––Charlie Barnett: "Consciousness and the computability of it. It sounds like, or at least in the past, that you've implied that consciousness is computable. Some, like Roger Penrose, have argued the opposite, and he's argued that consciousness is non-computational, and he uses Gödel's incompleteness theorems to argue that the mind can see truths that a purely algorithmic system can't derive, and therefore the brain must be using some kind of non-computable process when it comes to consciousness, something beyond what machines can do. What would you say to a view like that? David Deutsch: Yet again, it is using an impossible conception of what knowledge is. So Penrose thinks that when we see a proof of a mathematical theorem, we are touching certainty, we are god-like entities when we're mathematicians. But that's not true. Our mathematical knowledge is conjectural, just like our knowledge of physics. It's even more removed from our senses, because it's not true that the interior of our brains and the interior of our thoughts is more accessible to us than the world we perceive through our senses, or the world that we perceive through our theories, the center of the sun. We know lots about the center of the sun, even though no one has ever perceived it, and perhaps no one ever will. So mathematical truths are based on conjecture. What Gödel showed is that there is no firm ground underneath mathematical theories either. There's no way of proving that the standards of proof that we currently use are perfectly rigorous. And there have been cases in history where they have shown not to be rigorous. I think Pernot, who was the first to axiomatize the principles of the natural numbers, his first attempt at that was wrong. And it's interesting that he did not say, well, I've axiomatized them, therefore there's nothing to them other than my axioms. No, he said, oh dear, my axioms don't correctly represent the real number, the natural numbers, so I have to change them. So he was grasping, conjecturing for a reality, an abstract reality, just like scientists try to grasp physical reality. So the same epistemology applies to mathematics as it does to science."

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.David Deutsch: "What's currently called AI and AGI are not only different from each other, they are very close to being the exact opposites of each other. The reason is that an AI, current AI is like an AI that diagnoses diseases or an AI that plays chess or an AI that controls a huge factory. Those things have objective functions, that is they have a function that they are designed to maximize and that is why they are used in those particular applications. Or in military terms, you could say the objective is to hit the target. You might say the objective is to hit the target unless some thing specified, but it's a specified thing comes up in which case don't hit the target and so on. This is, as I said, almost the opposite of what humans do when humans think. For a start, the AI has to be obedient, that is it has to actually do the things it is programmed to do, whereas a human is fundamentally disobedient, especially when being creative. When a human plays chess, they are performing a completely different kind of computation. They don't do the same things, they don't investigate the same possibilities that the artificial chess playing machine does, because the artificial one is capable of looking at billions and billions of possibilities, whereas the human can only look at hundreds or something. They are doing something completely different. Another difference is that the human can explain, can write a book later, having become world champion, can write a book saying how I did it, as the computer program that beats the world champion can write no such book, because it has no idea how it did it. It was just following a program. I was doing this and that and that and none of that is illuminating. Also, third thing, the chess player can decide I don't want to play chess anymore, from now on I will play Go or from now on I will play tennis. If commanded to play chess, the functionality will deteriorate completely. Those things are different. What we want in an AGI is that it behaves in a way that cannot be specified in advance, because if you specified it, you would already have the answer. The AGI program has to give unexpected answers, answers to questions we didn't even know how to ask."

.David Deutsch: "What's currently called AI and AGI are not only different from each other, they are very close to being the exact opposites of each other. The reason is that an AI, current AI is like an AI that diagnoses diseases or an AI that plays chess or an AI that controls a huge factory. Those things have objective functions, that is they have a function that they are designed to maximize and that is why they are used in those particular applications. Or in military terms, you could say the objective is to hit the target. You might say the objective is to hit the target unless some thing specified, but it's a specified thing comes up in which case don't hit the target and so on. This is, as I said, almost the opposite of what humans do when humans think. For a start, the AI has to be obedient, that is it has to actually do the things it is programmed to do, whereas a human is fundamentally disobedient, especially when being creative. When a human plays chess, they are performing a completely different kind of computation. They don't do the same things, they don't investigate the same possibilities that the artificial chess playing machine does, because the artificial one is capable of looking at billions and billions of possibilities, whereas the human can only look at hundreds or something. They are doing something completely different. Another difference is that the human can explain, can write a book later, having become world champion, can write a book saying how I did it, as the computer program that beats the world champion can write no such book, because it has no idea how it did it. It was just following a program. I was doing this and that and that and none of that is illuminating. Also, third thing, the chess player can decide I don't want to play chess anymore, from now on I will play Go or from now on I will play tennis. If commanded to play chess, the functionality will deteriorate completely. Those things are different. What we want in an AGI is that it behaves in a way that cannot be specified in advance, because if you specified it, you would already have the answer. The AGI program has to give unexpected answers, answers to questions we didn't even know how to ask."

Deutsch Explains

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Culture is genetic because behavior is genetic. This beaver never saw a dam in its life. No beavers or anything else ever taught it to build a dam. It wants to build a dam because it is a beaver. Many beavers together build a big dam. That is beaver culture. Humans are not different. Nothing is different. This is what life is. This is how life works. Your body is your mind. A caterpillar wants to build a chrysalis. A bee wants to build a hive. A lion wants to build a pride. You are not special. You are not above your nature. you are INSIDE of it. The thoughts that we think are genetic thoughts. The crimes we commit are genetic crimes. The art we create is genetic art. Just like this beaver, you can give the animal different sticks and it will build a different dam, but it will always build a dam. And you can give humans different "education," but the human will always use it to do what its genes tell it to do. This is the first big answer that you need. This is the biggest piece of the puzzle. This is how to understand people 90% of the way. You just... notice what they do, and get out of the way, and watch them do it. And if they need sticks, you give them sticks. And if you don't like what they do, you have to get away from them. You cannot train dam-building into them or out of them any more than you can with a beaver. A beaver wants to build a dam because it is a beaver. Whatever you see people build, that's what they wanted to build from the sticks they got in the river they were in. Stop pretending you can change it.

Culture is genetic because behavior is genetic. This beaver never saw a dam in its life. No beavers or anything else ever taught it to build a dam. It wants to build a dam because it is a beaver. Many beavers together build a big dam. That is beaver culture. Humans are not different. Nothing is different. This is what life is. This is how life works. Your body is your mind. A caterpillar wants to build a chrysalis. A bee wants to build a hive. A lion wants to build a pride. You are not special. You are not above your nature. you are INSIDE of it. The thoughts that we think are genetic thoughts. The crimes we commit are genetic crimes. The art we create is genetic art. Just like this beaver, you can give the animal different sticks and it will build a different dam, but it will always build a dam. And you can give humans different "education," but the human will always use it to do what its genes tell it to do. This is the first big answer that you need. This is the biggest piece of the puzzle. This is how to understand people 90% of the way. You just... notice what they do, and get out of the way, and watch them do it. And if they need sticks, you give them sticks. And if you don't like what they do, you have to get away from them. You cannot train dam-building into them or out of them any more than you can with a beaver. A beaver wants to build a dam because it is a beaver. Whatever you see people build, that's what they wanted to build from the sticks they got in the river they were in. Stop pretending you can change it.

hoe_math = PsychoMath

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On a scale of no big deal to I would not be in that house How bad is this The inspector in comments says that the beam is NOT imbedded in the concrete walls - he can put his fingers behind it at the wall

On a scale of no big deal to I would not be in that house How bad is this The inspector in comments says that the beam is NOT imbedded in the concrete walls - he can put his fingers behind it at the wall

Julie Chang

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Same credit score. Same symptoms. But if you are Black, the AI says no. NAZI SCUMBAG #ElonMusk is in federal court right now fighting to keep it that way. Colorado passed a law: If you build AI that makes decisions about people’s housing, their jobs, or their healthcare, that AI has to be fair. That is the entire law. Musk filed a federal lawsuit to block it. His argument? Forcing his AI not to discriminate violates his First Amendment rights. Read that again. He is arguing in federal court that “do not discriminate against Black people” is a political opinion he should not have to follow. Never forget that Musk is all over the #EpsteinFiles.

Same credit score. Same symptoms. But if you are Black, the AI says no. NAZI SCUMBAG #ElonMusk is in federal court right now fighting to keep it that way. Colorado passed a law: If you build AI that makes decisions about people’s housing, their jobs, or their healthcare, that AI has to be fair. That is the entire law. Musk filed a federal lawsuit to block it. His argument? Forcing his AI not to discriminate violates his First Amendment rights. Read that again. He is arguing in federal court that “do not discriminate against Black people” is a political opinion he should not have to follow. Never forget that Musk is all over the #EpsteinFiles.

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Richard Feynman, Nobel Prize-winning physicist: "The universe itself doesn't know what happens next. it only knows the odds. I won a Nobel proving reality runs on probability, not certainty, which means the casino isn't cheating you. it's just closer to how nature works than you are." this free lecture from 1964 is a Nobel laureate explaining that certainty is not something the universe offers, and it has been public for sixty years. at the board it's simple. Feynman showed that at the deepest level nature does not decide what will happen, only the probability of what might. Fire a single electron at two slits and no one alive can tell you where it lands, only the odds of each spot. This drove Einstein to say God does not play dice. Feynman and the experiments proved him wrong. Reality is a probability machine, all the way down. That's the whole thing, minus the mysticism. Which means the casino is not an exception to how the world works. It is a scale model of it. Nobody gets certainty, not the gambler, not the trader, not the universe. Same point as my article above: the house wins not because it knows the outcome, but because it prices the odds while you chase a sure thing that does not exist anywhere in nature. the physics is free and it has been settled for a century. what nobody can sell you is the discipline to give up the craving for certainty and act on probabilities instead. That surrender is the whole edge, and it is the hardest thing a human mind ever does.

Richard Feynman, Nobel Prize-winning physicist: "The universe itself doesn't know what happens next. it only knows the odds. I won a Nobel proving reality runs on probability, not certainty, which means the casino isn't cheating you. it's just closer to how nature works than you are." this free lecture from 1964 is a Nobel laureate explaining that certainty is not something the universe offers, and it has been public for sixty years. at the board it's simple. Feynman showed that at the deepest level nature does not decide what will happen, only the probability of what might. Fire a single electron at two slits and no one alive can tell you where it lands, only the odds of each spot. This drove Einstein to say God does not play dice. Feynman and the experiments proved him wrong. Reality is a probability machine, all the way down. That's the whole thing, minus the mysticism. Which means the casino is not an exception to how the world works. It is a scale model of it. Nobody gets certainty, not the gambler, not the trader, not the universe. Same point as my article above: the house wins not because it knows the outcome, but because it prices the odds while you chase a sure thing that does not exist anywhere in nature. the physics is free and it has been settled for a century. what nobody can sell you is the discipline to give up the craving for certainty and act on probabilities instead. That surrender is the whole edge, and it is the hardest thing a human mind ever does.

Voltex

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Steve Jobs on why everything around you was made by people no smarter than you: "When you grow up, you tend to get told that the world is the way it is and your life is just to live your life inside the world. Try not to bash into the walls too much, have a nice family life, have fun, save a little money. But that's a very limited life." Steve believed most people live with a fundamental misconception. As he puts it: "Life can be much broader once you discover one simple fact. And that is—everything around you that you call life was made up by people that were no smarter than you." He continues: "And you can change it. You can influence it. You can build your own things that other people can use. And the minute that you understand that you can poke life and actually something will pop out the other side—that you can change it, you can mold it." On what matters most: "Maybe the most important thing is to shake off this erroneous notion that life is there and you're just going to live in it versus embrace it, change it, improve it, make your mark upon it. I think that's very important." His perspective on why you should change things: "However you learn that, once you learn it, you'll want to change life and make it better because it's kind of messed up in a lot of ways." The shift: "Once you learn that, you'll never be the same again."

Steve Jobs on why everything around you was made by people no smarter than you: "When you grow up, you tend to get told that the world is the way it is and your life is just to live your life inside the world. Try not to bash into the walls too much, have a nice family life, have fun, save a little money. But that's a very limited life." Steve believed most people live with a fundamental misconception. As he puts it: "Life can be much broader once you discover one simple fact. And that is—everything around you that you call life was made up by people that were no smarter than you." He continues: "And you can change it. You can influence it. You can build your own things that other people can use. And the minute that you understand that you can poke life and actually something will pop out the other side—that you can change it, you can mold it." On what matters most: "Maybe the most important thing is to shake off this erroneous notion that life is there and you're just going to live in it versus embrace it, change it, improve it, make your mark upon it. I think that's very important." His perspective on why you should change things: "However you learn that, once you learn it, you'll want to change life and make it better because it's kind of messed up in a lot of ways." The shift: "Once you learn that, you'll never be the same again."

Jaynit

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🚨The Only Way that it Can STOP is if the BRICS Countries 🚨Jeffrey Sachs: Trump is DELUSIONAL and he is a MEGALOMANIC. 🚨But on top of that, behind him is the CIA and Mossad. 🚨So this is not Trump alone. These are grandiose ideas, longstanding. So it's not only Trump, but there's no break. There's no foot on the brake. This is only an accelerator towards expanded war right now. And the only way that it can stop is if the BRICS countries, and that means India, that means Brazil, that means Russia, that means China, South Africa and others, and it's Iran, which is a member of the BRICS, says this is not the way the world can work. They have to stand up to American hegemony. This is the only way the world canAmerican hegemony. This is the only way the world can be safe. And so this is actually a responsibility of the BRICS right now, which is the only standing bulwark against America's global empire.

🚨The Only Way that it Can STOP is if the BRICS Countries 🚨Jeffrey Sachs: Trump is DELUSIONAL and he is a MEGALOMANIC. 🚨But on top of that, behind him is the CIA and Mossad. 🚨So this is not Trump alone. These are grandiose ideas, longstanding. So it's not only Trump, but there's no break. There's no foot on the brake. This is only an accelerator towards expanded war right now. And the only way that it can stop is if the BRICS countries, and that means India, that means Brazil, that means Russia, that means China, South Africa and others, and it's Iran, which is a member of the BRICS, says this is not the way the world can work. They have to stand up to American hegemony. This is the only way the world canAmerican hegemony. This is the only way the world can be safe. And so this is actually a responsibility of the BRICS right now, which is the only standing bulwark against America's global empire.

Ignorance, the root and stem of all evil

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