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A quick look into remote persistent sessions with Superlogical! Not just remote sessions, but some functionality like remote directory lists, too. Superlogical can actually be a full SSH replacement (I don't run SSH on my servers anymore), and I talk about that briefly, too.

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vogel profil fotoğrafı
vogel2 ay önce

woah this is actually crazy i didn’t realize this was essentially an ssh replacement this is insane

Mitchell Hashimoto profil fotoğrafı
Mitchell Hashimoto2 ay önce

Yep, many things yet to be revealed, but it is (can be) a full SSH replacement. The architecture to enable that safely is pretty fun and I can't wait to talk about it. But, imagine every SSH connection is persistent forever, multiplayer, more resilient to poor networks, supports more than just terminals, etc. etc. etc. Also, agents, oh the agents!

ily⚡️ profil fotoğrafı
ily⚡️2 ay önce

Holy fuck i really need this please drop soon

Moral Priest 🌱Ⓥ ₿ profil fotoğrafı
Moral Priest 🌱Ⓥ ₿2 ay önce

Does it use Google QUIC?

Mitchell Hashimoto profil fotoğrafı
Mitchell Hashimoto2 ay önce

Yep. Although we have a fallback to some easier-to-adopt protocols if needed.

Dinislam Tebuev profil fotoğrafı
Dinislam Tebuev2 ay önce

@MoralPriest every round trip matters

Moral Priest 🌱Ⓥ ₿ profil fotoğrafı
Moral Priest 🌱Ⓥ ₿2 ay önce

@mitchellh Sick, was looking at a SSH client with QUIC a few days back

wolfie profil fotoğrafı
wolfie2 ay önce

if you ever need beta testers 👉👉

searching for good name profil fotoğrafı
searching for good name2 ay önce

Sorry to ask again and again, How does it compare to herdr? Iam currently using it? do we have any benchmarks comparing to herdr? I really like your work, one of your tweets on why speed should be a primitive changed my view on few things

anderson profil fotoğrafı
anderson2 ay önce

remote go to dir 🤯

Mitchell Hashimoto profil fotoğrafı
Mitchell Hashimoto2 ay önce

but wait, there's more! but yes, its very cool!

Niccolò Banti profil fotoğrafı
Niccolò Banti2 ay önce

Dropping SSH entirely is the part I'd want to see stress tested. SSH's failure modes are boring and well understood after thirty years. What's the recovery path when the persistent session layer itself breaks and you're locked out of a box with no fallback daemon running?

Nafiz profil fotoğrafı
Nafiz2 ay önce

Maybe pasting image over ssh next? ;)

Oskar Wickström profil fotoğrafı
Oskar Wickström2 ay önce

Now I'm curious how you test all this!

Chirag profil fotoğrafı
Chirag1 ay önce

Nice. I have something on those lines. But for the browser. Try: Repo: Would love your feedback.

Aryan profil fotoğrafı
Aryan2 ay önce

Hey, hand me the beta version I can't wait anymore!

Karl profil fotoğrafı
Karl2 ay önce

Any thoughts around mosh or similar? One thing I've found is I'm going back to mosh when connecting to my machine from my phone when remote - will this replace mosh eventually?

Mitchell Hashimoto profil fotoğrafı
Mitchell Hashimoto2 ay önce

I talk about it in the video

Daniel Dosen profil fotoğrafı
Daniel Dosen2 ay önce

Is cut copy paste across machines just as easy?

Mitchell Hashimoto profil fotoğrafı
Mitchell Hashimoto2 ay önce

Wait for a follow up demo. :)

Dmitry S profil fotoğrafı
Dmitry S2 ay önce

covers all my tmux + ssh use cases. the only nit is that i'd add a feature to make UI more minimalistic (drop liquid glass)

Mitchell Hashimoto profil fotoğrafı
Mitchell Hashimoto2 ay önce

Exists

ByShovel profil fotoğrafı
ByShovel2 ay önce

a tool that replaces ssh and also lists directories is exactly the kind of small sharp thing that makes you wonder why ssh was doing half the stuff it was doing.

Nicolas Joseph profil fotoğrafı
Nicolas Joseph2 ay önce

@sudomateo Hey @Tailscale would be great to have tailscale be natively compatible with superlogical when it comes out. Like you do for ssh

Tommaso Bruno profil fotoğrafı
Tommaso Bruno2 ay önce

will you provide a flake/home-manager package with overrides to setup remote machine/sessions (not sure if it's viable)

Chris Johnson profil fotoğrafı
Chris Johnson1 ay önce

@adamhjk @mitchellh I have saved the video. I love this idea. When is GA?

Ike Victor profil fotoğrafı
Ike Victor2 ay önce

when is this thing coming out?? lol would love to test it :)

Sma profil fotoğrafı
Sma2 ay önce

God I love responsive interfaces. I’ve been craving something like this for ages

Martin Zajíc profil fotoğrafı
Martin Zajíc1 ay önce

Building something similar "no ui" deamon to manage agentic session across machines

Barry Tzakala profil fotoğrafı
Barry Tzakala2 ay önce

wen release?

noamalffasy profil fotoğrafı
noamalffasy2 ay önce

Does it share the same keyboard shortcuts as tmux?

Farid Zakaria profil fotoğrafı
Farid Zakaria1 ay önce

Cool to see NixOS ☺️

Wazz profil fotoğrafı
Wazz2 ay önce

will this replace my termius multi server ssh + tmux ? can we try? Will you make it windows compatible too?

Noam Lewis profil fotoğrafı
Noam Lewis2 ay önce

Fresh does this - its File Explorer and all file reads and editing happens efficiently over the remote, fetching only the visible, loaded data instead of large files. It uses SSH as a transport channel, but runs its own protocol through it.

Javier Canizalez profil fotoğrafı
Javier Canizalez1 ay önce

Which side owns the screen on reconnect client state sync or server pty replay?

nobbo profil fotoğrafı
nobbo2 ay önce

Are you planning to implement port-forwarding to access e.g. webservers listening on remote servers?

dbosky profil fotoğrafı
dbosky1 ay önce

@mitchellh when alpha access will be available?

fabrico profil fotoğrafı
fabrico2 ay önce

what was the limitation that made you not go with ssh?

Mitchell Hashimoto profil fotoğrafı
Mitchell Hashimoto2 ay önce

To be clear you can also use superlogical directly over ssh. There are a spectrum of options here. But by replacing SSH directly we get full pam-respecting authenticated/authorized logins with persistent sessions behind it. The transport is also way more resilient to bad internet connections and latency.

mbravo profil fotoğrafı
mbravo2 ay önce

@demfabris has it been independently audited on, you know, security aspects? filling ssh boots is a bit of a tall order

Mitchell Hashimoto profil fotoğrafı
Mitchell Hashimoto2 ay önce

@demfabris It will be but not yet since it’s not close to release yet. But check my background, I built some of the most security sensitive tooling out there, probably protecting a ton of your PII right now :)

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venu bondugula1 ay önce

@mitchellh At this point, looks like the shell is the only piece left to complete the stack 😄

Neil Chudleigh profil fotoğrafı
Neil Chudleigh2 ay önce

really awesome

CodeMonument profil fotoğrafı
CodeMonument1 ay önce

yeeeees, i can't await this!

Brian Scott profil fotoğrafı
Brian Scott2 ay önce

When will this be released :) really digging the clean behavior and aesthetic

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