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A wild sequence of events caught on camera shows a complete breakdown of professionalism: * A plainclothes officer lays hands on a citizen before properly identifying himself. * A uniformed colleague backs him up, answering "no" when asked if an officer needs to identify themselves. * A station sergeant...

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