Are there any experts on Tesla FSD that can explain why this happened?

HW3 cameras unable to distinguish shadow line from lane divider. V14 Lite needs further refinement. Fortunately, it’s supervised.

That makes sense

@Anonymo74369551 Would this happen if Teslas were equipped with lidar?

@grantbelden No, but it also wouldn’t happen with current cameras (HW4). HW4 provides discernment of such edge cases that HW3 fails at. Vision only is the solution, using current - not outdated - cameras.

@nikkikom @grantbelden Some may choose that, if their AI or cameras aren’t very advanced. For Tesla, their cameras and AI are fully capable. No need for LIDAR, radar, ultrasound. The HW3 incident is irrelevant to achieving autonomy with current hardware and AI.

@Ipulloutneva @nikkikom @grantbelden But Lidar wouldn't be confused by a shadow

@Ipulloutneva @nikkikom @grantbelden LIDAR doesn’t detect shadows!

I think the problem here is the driver allowing their car to do this. Either distracted it they just wanted to see what it would do, thus leading to endangering themselves and others on the road

….ok Why do you think FSD hit the wall?

Because the driver wasn’t paying attention and intervene whilst the car was drifting outside the lane…

@grantbelden Gotcha. Still doesn’t work. Driver was driving then.

@grantbelden Technically they are driving, or “supervising”. They’re liable for anything the car does. Congrats you’ve figured out what a level 2 ADAS is. Good boy.

@grantbelden As in your handle, no Tesla is self driving. You’ll figure it out soon I hope!

@grantbelden Good boy

If you capture the moment before impact, it looks like the vision algorithm saw the area between the white line and the yellow line as drivable space, mistaking the concrete barrier for part of the road. An optical illusion that could have been prevented with Lidar...

The sun ☀️ the problem is the sun not FSD

Say more? How was the sun involved here

OP from Reddit said it happened on v12 multiple times as well and he thinks it’s a steering motor or hardware issue as the car has had a $20k repair from a previous accident

It fucking sucks and a bunch of idiots still slobber all over Elon's knob to an embarrassing degree. They can't handle the most bare minimum critique, like that some shitty cameras can't do this. Company is wearing no clothes and yet people keep pretending like it ain't naked.

It thought the white barrier wass was a road and merged into it.

For real? Calling in the big guns @OverlyTrev

Because fraud

Honestly, it could just be a faked video I’ve never seen this behavior on FSD. If it’s real then the model probably effectively fell asleep. Shouldn’t have anything to do with the sun or wall since this is a highly likely environment for it to be in

…..buddy FSD is not perfect Dismissing videos like this as “fake” based on literally nothing isn’t the right approach JFC, you people

The “literally” nothing is me driving 30k miles with it and never having the above case on v12.6.4 nor v14 lite. v12 would sometimes fall asleep when stopped but v14 hasn’t had any of that yet. Neither had the above behavior

So the base case is that it’s faked. Maybe computer failed somehow, though it does have two nodes to run from. Usually one is active and the other is in shadow mode running another models

Buddy, 30k miles isn’t a lot of miles Waymo does something like half a million a day

And?

You’re a moron if you think what you see personally is enough to make informed judgments

You’re a moron to think anything else

How do we know if this video is authentic?

I'm not an AI expert, but I think there something not quite right here.

Lol shadows and and Elon is a lying pos.

Imagine hating Elon so much you would destroy your own car in attempts to harm Tesla with fake stories

Did you report it to Tesla?

Yea, FSD wasn’t activated. When FAD is activated it shows it on the screen. 100% Driver error.

Rapid Unscheduled RoboNap

If only there was a sensor that could tell if there is a solid object like a fucking WALL in the way.

FSD hat ein Problem mit Sonne und Schatten, verlässt dazu die Fahrspur und keine Radarsensoren zur Verfügung an den vier Fahrzeugeecken, die die fehlerhafte Bildanalyse erkennen und sicher auflösen können. So eine Beta Software gehört auf ein abgeschlossenes Testgelände.

I can explain it. It happened because you were paying attention using level 2 software. I hope that helps.

If only there were a system that could provide accurate, real-time 3D geometry of the vehicle’s surroundings using laser-based ranging, so the car can reliably know where things are, not just what they look like….

Not enough photons were counted, or too many, or the photons were oriented the wrong way. They need a recount and a straightening out.

This is why. Company is ran by this nut job. He uses FSD to pump his stock, not to actually achieve FSD.

Would be nice to know what software version of FSD these videos are to separate hardware 4 vs hardware 3. I have never experienced this issue but mine is hardware 4.

14 lite on HW3 It’s on Reddit /teslaFSD has a much more balanced set of views on the tech vs. what you get on this platform

@Harve17691Iii Everything on reddit is fake

@Harve17691Iii lol

Welcome to the beta program. Please remember to file your Jira ticket with a proper repro sequence.

@BradMunchen Likely interpreted the 200ft light pole as the lane marker and drove that way.

Perhaps misinterpreted the shadow? I’ve never experienced anything like it. I bet it’s hw3

Because the driver wasn't paying attention

FSD is not safe

Because they went with camera based detection and not LiDar.

Yes. Driver failure to supervise. End of story.

Hey corrupt @NHTSAgov any thoughts? Or just have innocent drivers be exposed to this dangerous experiment?

ist halt kein Autopilot und Tesla ist nicht in der Haftung, jeder Fanboy erzählt aber er hätte das beste Auto, alles Hurensöhne

Yup , I say fake video 😮

Animation would be helpful. Could be a doctored video.

What was the driver doing at the time?