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Audio between PAT-25 and the Reagan ATC. The controller asks PAT25 (BlackHawk) if he sees the CRJ (plane). PAT25 confirms, and requests "Visual Separation". That means that he is affirming seeing the plane, and will himself work to avoid it. #planecrash

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I suspect they were looking at AAL3130 aiming for runway 1 and mistook it for JIA5342 (which was landing on runway 33, coming from their left.) AAL would have been directly infront of them (sight-wise.)

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Wonder they were watching the plane that was taking off you could see in the video not seeing the one coming down

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Emi1 yıl önce

Doesn't look like he was trying to avoid it or any other plane for that matter

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Carimachet1 yıl önce

Which means he deliberately hit it ? We need a list of the passengers names on the passanger plane NOW ! Who was the target this time CIA > total self appointed gods of life itself > ???? .@ColonelTowner .@Winggal_123 .@CousinItt_00 Its a miracle any of us are still standing tbh

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Where is this info from?

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Garbage1 yıl önce

Helo was looking at wrong plane, and worked to avoid it.

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The Thirst Mutilator1 yıl önce

Listen to the audio at :23. That's crazy!

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Lemon 🍋1 yıl önce

Direct hit. Black hawks and military fly into battle. This was intentional.

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StevenC1 yıl önce

It was also a training fight, so who knows how experienced the chopper pilot was.

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Lucas Mcain1 yıl önce

Thanks trump!

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