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Cliffe and Stuart debate MIT student (Orthodox) on the Eucharist and Baptism [1/3] Video from TikTok @ igordomingues.
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Can we all stop for a minute and just relize that he got trapped into a corner(that being this guy was quoting scripture about how people were dieing from partaking of the Eucharist unworthy) and knew he couldn't just brush it aside cause its scripture and it is a nail in the coffinfor his position, does a completely 360 and goes on a rant about headcoverings and the feminism movement, and the me to movment, I honestly almost got whiplash from that one 😂

Imagine bringing up Vatican I and II in a discussion with an Oriental Orthodox.

Thank you Orthodox brother!

Goodness! They are so *rabidly* anti-Catholic and mad about it, they can’t even speak straight, they sound like the Sanhedrin interrogating Christ hoping to trip him up. As a Catholic, I’ve got to say GOOD WORK to that Orthodox brother 👏🏾

Thinking on the spot, buying himself time, making faux displays of power, directing the conversation to other unrelated analogies, claiming that he respects the position. It's very difficult to get through to them. I've tried and failed countless times.

Cliffe and Stuart are good at debating atheists, agnostics, and muslims Not great, but good But here they are clearly out of their depth

Does dude have an account? Would love to follow him.

He managed to get from the Eucharist to Sexism in one breath. And then tried to whip out Transubstantiation with an Orthodox... Pride will keep you from saying, "That's a good question, I don't know..." in front of an audience.

I felt like I stepped into a Time Machine and was watching one of the church fathers take down a heretic. Gold

Oriental Orthodox absolutely killing it 🫡

He made us all proud today.

Christ founded a visible, hierarchical Church upon Peter, whom He uniquely singled out at multiple pivotal moments in the Gospels. From the beginning, Peter is portrayed as the leader of the apostles. His name is always listed first (Matthew 10:2), and he is the only one given a new name by Christ—Cephas, an Aramaic word meaning "Rock" (John 1:42). In Greek, this is translated as Petros. When Jesus walked on water, it was Peter alone who stepped out of the boat in faith (Matthew 14:28–31), showing singular courage and leadership, even though he faltered. Later, in Caesarea Philippi, Jesus said to him: “You are Peter [Petros], and on this rock [petra] I will build my Church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven” (Matthew 16:18–19). The Greek wordplay emphasizes Peter’s foundational role. In the original Aramaic, the word is Kepha in both instances, underscoring the direct link between Peter and the rock. Jesus also prayed specifically for Peter’s faith so that he would strengthen his brethren (Luke 22:31–32)—a clear indication of his primacy. After the Resurrection, Jesus singled Peter out again, commanding him three times: “Feed my sheep” (John 21:15–17), entrusting him with the care of the entire flock. At Pentecost, Peter alone stood and preached (Acts 2:14), initiating the public mission of the Church. This Petrine ministry continues unbroken in the bishops of Rome, successors of Peter and Christ’s vicars on Earth. The early Church Fathers—St. Cyprian, St. Jerome, St. Leo the Great, St. Ambrose, and St. Irenaeus—explicitly affirm the primacy of the Bishop of Rome and the necessity of communion with him. The Eucharist, the source and summit of Christian life, is central to this Church. Jesus said: “Unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you have no life in you” (John 6:53), “My flesh is true food, and My blood is true drink” (John 6:55), “He who eats My flesh and drinks My blood abides in Me” (John 6:56), and at the Last Supper: “This is My Body… This is My Blood… Do this in memory of Me” (Luke 22:19–20; Matthew 26:26–28; Mark 14:22–24; 1 Corinthians 11:23–25). From the earliest times, the Church Fathers taught the Real Presence: St. Ignatius of Antioch in 110 A.D. condemned those who deny the Eucharist is the flesh of Christ; St. Justin Martyr and St. Cyril of Jerusalem wrote extensively on the Eucharist as true Body and Blood. Throughout history, over 100 documented Eucharistic miracles affirm this truth—including 108 collected and exhibited by Blessed Carlo Acutis, whose work has been displayed worldwide. Notable among them are the miracle of Lanciano (8th century), where the host became human heart tissue; the miracle of Bolsena (13th century), which led to the feast of Corpus Christi; and the 1996 miracle in Buenos Aires, where a consecrated host transformed into cardiac tissue under Pope (then Cardinal) Bergoglio’s watch, confirmed by scientific analysis. These miracles confirm the Church’s teaching on transubstantiation, defined in the Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC 1374): “The whole Christ is truly, really, and substantially contained” in the Eucharist. In contrast, the Orthodox Church, which broke communion in 1054, rejected the Petrine foundation due to disputes over papal primacy and the filioque clause. But without Peter, there is no center of unity. Constantinople is merely symbolic and lacks binding authority over its fractured communion. The 2016 Council of Crete highlighted these divisions, as did the ongoing schism between Moscow and Constantinople. Unlike the Apostolic Council in Acts 15—convened and led by Peter—the Orthodox have no one to authoritatively convene or resolve disputes. This undermines the visible oneness Christ willed for His Church (Ephesians 4:5).

I am aware. But not EO. :)

Wow Stuart was flustered and … I’m honestly disappointed in his demeanor.

Protestant ass clowns got wrecked Embarrassing how ignorant they are

So Stuart doesn’t believe Christianity is true because of the majority of people aren’t Christians, even pagans and Muslims don’t use this weak argument about majority. The orthodox guy is 100% correct church father canonized the books of the Bible so we should follow their words. Cliff and Stuart are uneducated heretics.

The ‘evangelist’ is either lying or an idiot

The young guy won this debate 🏆

Bro cooked them they had no idea what they were saying or how to argue against it. Resorted to cutting him off and trying to set up garbage gatcha traps lol then ending the conversation abruptly lol

>I am an Orthodox > SO YOU BELIEVE IN THE INFALLIBLE VATICAN??? >No I don't believe in Vatican I am not Catholic >THEY CHANGED IN VATICAN 1 AND 2 Bruh he is running away it is pathetic.

finally someone called them out face to face they looked lost and couldn’t deal with the history of the early church

WOW! This guy is crapping his pants. Protestantism dies under any bit of scrutiny, just like Leftism. Two sides of the same coin. A perversion of something. Leftism/Communism a perversion of Capitalism. Protestantism a perversion of Christianity, or Catholicism/Orthodoxy.

The guy makes a false equivalency in an attempt to misdirect the argument by comparing it to head covering for women. LOL!

Bros hitting sonic poses

Why were these guys so freaking aggressive and condescending- came off like they were trying to bully him into submission

Cliffe got cooked

The older guy intervened and saved the other guy who knew he lost the argument but didn’t know how to stop it. In all that the Orthodox dude was confident and stood at the same place.

Harvard* but the event is at MIT.

Catholic here. Stuart was clearly not prepared for that. Also it's very clear he doesn't know the difference between Catholic and Orthodox, another major reason he was not prepared for that

Bro believes in men more than in the Word of God

He referenced the words of God where the Eucharist is spoken of, and he referenced early Christians who received those words of God from the apostles.

That Protestant dude is annoyingly smug yet pitifully ignorant.

Here is the full video clip.

Cliffe and Stuart have no idea what they are even talking about or anything about church history. This young man did an amazing job. Pray for them that God opens their eyes.

I’m a baby Orthodox Christian and appreciated the young man’s demeanor very much. I don’t know who the two older gentleman are but the posturing and rudeness doesn’t fly with me in any circumstance. Seemed inauthentic, flighty, and like he wasn’t paying full attention.

Dude argues better than the pastor because he stands with truth

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