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Creating Bitcoin keys securely entirely off-line. I made this (extremely ugly but) functional prototype Codex32 wooden computer that can calculate Bitcoin keys using nothing more than dice, some paper and a pen. You do all the math by hand, including calculating the checksum.

181,009 次观看 • 2 年前 •via X (Twitter)

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FractalEncrypt ∞/21M 的头像
FractalEncrypt ∞/21M2 年前

Front and back of the prototype wooden Codex32 computer...

FractalEncrypt ∞/21M 的头像
FractalEncrypt ∞/21M2 年前

These two can keep a secret...also pretty good helpers.

FractalEncrypt ∞/21M 的头像
FractalEncrypt ∞/21M2 年前

I forgot to mention that part of generating the Bitcoin keys is splitting the seed via Shamir Secret Sharing (it just automatically happens as part of the key generation process.) recovering the seed means combining the shares (you can also do that using the wooden computer).

FractalEncrypt ∞/21M 的头像
FractalEncrypt ∞/21M2 年前

You can see a quick demo here of the Codex32 paper computers that this wooden computer is based on...

FractalEncrypt ∞/21M 的头像
FractalEncrypt ∞/21M2 年前

You can also download the full Codex32 book and print/cut your own paper computers right now - for free.

Preston Pysh 的头像
Preston Pysh2 年前

If you could peer in the Fractal’s brain…

FractalEncrypt ∞/21M 的头像
FractalEncrypt ∞/21M2 年前

😂👊🔥

MT⚡️ 的头像
MT⚡️2 年前

Nice “unhosted wallet software” 🤣

FractalEncrypt ∞/21M 的头像
FractalEncrypt ∞/21M2 年前

Come and take it! 🔥👊

Tatum Turn Up (Villain arc) 的头像
Tatum Turn Up (Villain arc)2 年前

“extremely ugly” We might have different definitions of ugly this is sick and also sexy

FractalEncrypt ∞/21M 的头像
FractalEncrypt ∞/21M2 年前

Its just a buncha circles for the most part, I didn't get a chance to do much design work - the first step is always function over form, so I have to make sure it works, and it really is an easy-to-use device. I'm still working on fancy-ing it up ;) Thanks so much for the kind words.

Mars 的头像
Mars2 年前

@tatumturnup I wonder how small you can get it with the right material...

FractalEncrypt ∞/21M 的头像
FractalEncrypt ∞/21M2 年前

@tatumturnup I reconfigured it and got the computer itself much smaller, but I added a dice tower, and other necessaries that made it big again (LMAO!)

Cosmo Crixter 🟠 的头像
Cosmo Crixter 🟠2 年前

@MichaelDunwort1 Looks amazing actually. There’s a great interview about this with Andrew Poelstra on the @stephanlivera podcast.

FractalEncrypt ∞/21M 的头像
FractalEncrypt ∞/21M2 年前

@MichaelDunwort1 @stephanlivera I've watched every second of every Codex32 interview I could find. I even talked about it at dinner with @stephanlivera in Madeira during @BitcoinAtlantis. (Hi Stephan, hey scroll up and you'll see that device I was telling you about ;))

Cosmo Crixter 🟠 的头像
Cosmo Crixter 🟠2 年前

@MichaelDunwort1 @stephanlivera @BitcoinAtlantis I bet you’re going to make one of these math machines into something glittering and shining and magnificent, aren’t you? Like a glorious steampunk magus from 1000 years in the future.

FractalEncrypt ∞/21M 的头像
FractalEncrypt ∞/21M2 年前

@MichaelDunwort1 @stephanlivera @BitcoinAtlantis Could be! I do have plans 😉

FractalEncrypt ∞/21M 的头像
FractalEncrypt ∞/21M2 年前

Yes

SeedHammer 的头像
SeedHammer2 年前

This is beautiful. Imagine getting the result on steel somehow easy and foolproof. 🤔

FractalEncrypt ∞/21M 的头像
FractalEncrypt ∞/21M2 年前

Definitely need the steel once you've generated your secret shares!

SeedSigner 的头像
SeedSigner2 年前

Curious if you have a sense of whether manual calculation of spend signature/txn is possible/feasible?

FractalEncrypt ∞/21M 的头像
FractalEncrypt ∞/21M2 年前

Not yet. This is really the first implementation where I saw that you can create the seed entirely offline even with checksum, and do all the math by hand. But the limitation, is we need to wait for Codex32 compatible wallets for things like HD wallet creation & spends.

FractalEncrypt ∞/21M 的头像
FractalEncrypt ∞/21M2 年前

👀

@stackit.btc 的头像
@stackit.btc2 年前

Your kind of at the forefront between bridging digital #BTC w/ actual physical representation of it. Kind of brilliant to watch actually

FractalEncrypt ∞/21M 的头像
FractalEncrypt ∞/21M2 年前

That is extremely kind of you to say. Thanks!🔥🔥

@stackit.btc 的头像
@stackit.btc2 年前

Well deserved

₿ᴳʳᵒᵛᵉ 的头像
₿ᴳʳᵒᵛᵉ2 年前

wen workshop @bitcoingrove?

FractalEncrypt ∞/21M 的头像
FractalEncrypt ∞/21M2 年前

Oh this would be sweet 🔥🔥💪👀

🕊🔜R҉Y҉R҉ 🔚🕊 的头像
🕊🔜R҉Y҉R҉ 🔚🕊2 年前

Dope

FractalEncrypt ∞/21M 的头像
FractalEncrypt ∞/21M2 年前

🙏👊🔥

Robert (infra 🏛️⌛️) 的头像
Robert (infra 🏛️⌛️)2 年前

yo, this is the raddest fuckin thing ive seen in a longgggg time

FractalEncrypt ∞/21M 的头像
FractalEncrypt ∞/21M2 年前

Thank you! 🙏👊

Tomer Strolight 的头像
Tomer Strolight2 年前

Wow!

BitcoinWalk ⚡️ 的头像
BitcoinWalk ⚡️2 年前

@FractalEncrypt you and @dataresilience should get on a call - I can only imagine how cool the effects of your collaboration would be 😌

FractalEncrypt ∞/21M 的头像
FractalEncrypt ∞/21M2 年前

@dataresilience I sent a follow request, thanks!

PedestrianX 的头像
PedestrianX2 年前

This looks like something a future civilization will dig up and spend 50 years trying to figure what it's for.

monkey 的头像
monkey2 年前

When can I get one?

FractalEncrypt ∞/21M 的头像
FractalEncrypt ∞/21M2 年前

This design is kinda "a way on the path" to finding the final form. I am working on a new one, but it looks totally different...Something will appear in the future, it's percolating ;)

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Not2 年前

Those are self-hosted wallets, do you have a license for that math?

Owen Kemeys (CTV+CSFS enjoyer) 的头像
Owen Kemeys (CTV+CSFS enjoyer)2 年前

@mononautical The evil maid attack now becomes secret gear ratio replacements. much more advanced

FractalEncrypt ∞/21M 的头像
FractalEncrypt ∞/21M2 年前

@mononautical Now that would be tricky! Bad maid!

The Rev Dr Chick Counterfly 的头像
The Rev Dr Chick Counterfly2 年前

Question: can you realistically calculate the checksum by hand? Is the SHA256 algorithm that easy to just do manually?

FractalEncrypt ∞/21M 的头像
FractalEncrypt ∞/21M2 年前

Absolutely 100% you can realistically calculate the checksum by hand. I'm right now verifying the seed + Checksum I calculated yesterday. If you messed up at all, it's immediately evident (your checksum has to resolve to "SecretShare32" mathematically or you fked up.) Codex32 also has error correction capabilities - it can detect up to 8 errors and help you fix up to 4.

Dakko 的头像
Dakko2 年前

This is so based, full respect man

FractalEncrypt ∞/21M 的头像
FractalEncrypt ∞/21M2 年前

Many thanks for that!

Omar Siddiqui 的头像
Omar Siddiqui2 年前

@GusGrillasca That’s not ugly at all, gorgeous and very cool

Ace One Design 的头像
Ace One Design2 年前

This ended up on my "for you" feed and I'm glad it did. Great job. Such a cool project. It's extremely clever, and a gorgeous presentation.

FractalEncrypt ∞/21M 的头像
FractalEncrypt ∞/21M2 年前

🔥👊🙏

Jingles 的头像
Jingles2 年前

Amazing, Fractal!

FractalEncrypt ∞/21M 的头像
FractalEncrypt ∞/21M2 年前

🙏🙏🙏

JuanGalt.com 的头像
JuanGalt.com2 年前

Dude, that's amazing

Elliott 的头像
Elliott2 年前

I don’t know what I’m looking at but I am incredibly impressed

China Tim (💎🤲 🌖) 的头像
China Tim (💎🤲 🌖)2 年前

I have a offline (entropy) system, I use Sha256 to generate my hash. All calculations are done offline via a spreadsheet + Shasum. No web browsers & done all offline. Additionally my system can generate pass-phrases using the niceware word list. Uses 32 D16 Dice

FractalEncrypt ∞/21M 的头像
FractalEncrypt ∞/21M2 年前

Yeah spreadsheets and offline computers make it a lot more practical 😅

China Tim (💎🤲 🌖) 的头像
China Tim (💎🤲 🌖)2 年前

It's cool you were able to learn out how to calculate it manually, but the time involved, ugh..

FractalEncrypt ∞/21M 的头像
FractalEncrypt ∞/21M2 年前

Yes, it is not a quick process. Low time preference living 😉😎

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Ribus2 年前

@DeBasedGhost Love the DIY spirit! There's something timeless about blending tech with tactile crafts.

Bitcoin Lebowski⚡ 的头像
Bitcoin Lebowski⚡2 年前

@BitsInevitable

spoonman 的头像
spoonman2 年前

🤯

Myth BTC 的头像
Myth BTC2 年前

For sale wen?

FractalEncrypt ∞/21M 的头像
FractalEncrypt ∞/21M2 年前

Hopefully it's "some-kinda-I" at the very least 😅

geoindependent 的头像
geoindependent2 年前

@clickspring1 should make a bronze version! Reminds me of the Antikythera Mechanism

DrDoggyballs 的头像
DrDoggyballs2 年前

Amazing! Publishing the plans?

FractalEncrypt ∞/21M 的头像
FractalEncrypt ∞/21M2 年前

There are no plans 😅, it's a buncha separate cut files that look like this

DrDoggyballs 的头像
DrDoggyballs2 年前

🤣🤣

jpnLedger⚡ 的头像
jpnLedger⚡2 年前

@leonwankum 🔥

Vizique 的头像
Vizique2 年前

very cool ser

FractalEncrypt ∞/21M 的头像
FractalEncrypt ∞/21M2 年前

Thanks brother 🙏

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Milo1 年前

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