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Data center developers haven't done a good job of selling next-generation facilities - which don't have many of the drawbacks of old projects - to the public, says Arizona Land Consulting CEO Anita Verma-Lallian.

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Anita Verma-Lallian4 days ago

Thanks for having me!

Joseph Kershaw Dreitler4 days ago

PR Spin not working? Raise utility prices, lower land values, get tax abatements, raise my electric & water bills, lower property values, noisy & bright, employ fewer than a WalMart. Sole purpose power AI to kill jobs. Great stuff.

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