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.David Sacks, david friedberg, @jason, and Chamath Palihapitiya debate if Google manipulates search results to favor Democrats in elections. In 2019, a senior Google engineer (Zach Vorhies / Google Whistleblower) leaked 950 pages of internal documents, revealing how Google uses blacklists and algorithms to censor conservative and pro-Trump content....

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KanekoaTheGreatvor 2 Jahren

Full thread on Google's 950 pages of leaked documents:

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Overtonvor 2 Jahren

@DavidSacks @friedberg @Jason @chamath @Perpetualmaniac Few in Silicon Valley would be able to put it as simply as @DavidSacks; "Google is a threat to democracy."

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KanekoaTheGreatvor 2 Jahren

@OvertonLive @DavidSacks @friedberg @Jason @chamath @Perpetualmaniac They are manipulating search results to rig elections right in front of our eyes

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@DavidSacks @friedberg @Jason @chamath @Perpetualmaniac I think the evidence is fairly conclusive that they have and continue to do so, I mean, they barely even deny it at this point.

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KanekoaTheGreatvor 2 Jahren

@DavidSacks @friedberg @Jason @chamath @Perpetualmaniac What @DrREpstein has documented would shock George Orwell

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Paul A. Szypula 🇺🇸vor 2 Jahren

@DavidSacks @friedberg @Jason @chamath @Perpetualmaniac Every one of these companies needs to be investigated and indicted for their blatant censorship

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Wall Street Apesvor 2 Jahren

@DavidSacks @friedberg @Jason @chamath @Perpetualmaniac I’d love to see these internal documents for every tech and media company. Too bad the likelihood of that is 0% with the Republican Uniparty who refuses to hold a single person or company accountable for literally anything

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@DavidSacks @friedberg @Jason @chamath @Perpetualmaniac I didn't know there was any type of real debate over this subject because it's like debating if the HuffPo leans Left or the Daily Wire leans right.

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@DavidSacks @friedberg @Jason @chamath @Perpetualmaniac The debate is still ongoing because most people get their news from Google

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Next News Network 🇺🇲vor 2 Jahren

@DavidSacks @friedberg @Jason @chamath @Perpetualmaniac As is this. Get ready.

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#10 From Vorhies’ perspective, when Google launched a crusade against so-called “fake news,” what it meant, in actuality, was censoring the ideas and arguments of Donald J. Trump and his populist supporters. Anything “pro-Trump” or "anti-Hillary" was labeled as "fake news."
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J-Cal Explains Why Google is UNDERRATED in AI 👀 On E227, the besties discussed Google's value in a post-search world if AI replaces traditional search. @jason broke down why he thinks Google is being slept on: "I think there's a chance that we're underestimating the power of Google's ad network right now." "They have four or five products that are one or two billion users per month. You have YouTube, Google Docs, Android." "They have such a data advantage and such a deep integration into people's lives because they use three or four services, I think Google's gonna figure this out." "It's quite possible that knowing your queries in Gemini, knowing what you're doing in Calendar, knowing what you're watching on YouTube could lead to a stream of more targeted ads that do better and are more valuable." "We've been seeing a number of startups that are figuring out how to use your queries and what you're doing in AI to present to you search results." "So imagine you're doing a Gemini search and on the side of it, it's giving you a rolling list of ads or offers that you might be more interested in." "That could be a better advertising product than even search itself." "I think YouTube search is the place to go all-in." "Right now, when you do a YouTube search, it just gives you 10 links, right? It just gives you that rolling thing." "You should be able to ask a question to YouTube, and you should be able to ask questions to your calendar." "You should be able to say, who have I met with over the last 10 years? Who I'm no longer in touch with and what are they up to?" "And it should do a Gemini search inside of Google Calendar. It's very light right now." "And then if you did that on YouTube, this would train people at the point of pain in a very deep way without sacrificing Google Search queries too aggressively."
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J-Cal Explains Why Google is UNDERRATED in AI 👀 On E227, the besties discussed Google's value in a post-search world if AI replaces traditional search. @jason broke down why he thinks Google is being slept on: "I think there's a chance that we're underestimating the power of Google's ad network right now." "They have four or five products that are one or two billion users per month. You have YouTube, Google Docs, Android." "They have such a data advantage and such a deep integration into people's lives because they use three or four services, I think Google's gonna figure this out." "It's quite possible that knowing your queries in Gemini, knowing what you're doing in Calendar, knowing what you're watching on YouTube could lead to a stream of more targeted ads that do better and are more valuable." "We've been seeing a number of startups that are figuring out how to use your queries and what you're doing in AI to present to you search results." "So imagine you're doing a Gemini search and on the side of it, it's giving you a rolling list of ads or offers that you might be more interested in." "That could be a better advertising product than even search itself." "I think YouTube search is the place to go all-in." "Right now, when you do a YouTube search, it just gives you 10 links, right? It just gives you that rolling thing." "You should be able to ask a question to YouTube, and you should be able to ask questions to your calendar." "You should be able to say, who have I met with over the last 10 years? Who I'm no longer in touch with and what are they up to?" "And it should do a Gemini search inside of Google Calendar. It's very light right now." "And then if you did that on YouTube, this would train people at the point of pain in a very deep way without sacrificing Google Search queries too aggressively."

The All-In Podcast

58,275 Aufrufe • vor 1 Jahr

The new Google Search is rolling out and there seems to be confusion on what it will look like. Google literally told us. Let me clarify for anyone who is still unsure of what is rolling out this week. Last month Google responded to everyone saying Search is dead. Here is what they said: "You will absolutely continue to see blue web links in search results. AI Mode is not the default experience in Search. You will continue to get a range of results on Search." [Want to know where your site stands across Google AI, ChatGPT, Claude, Grok, etc? Check here (it's free): Google has explicitly laid out what Search will look like from this point going forward. The new Search box accepts text, images, files, videos, and open Chrome tabs. It anticipates your intent before you finish asking. It is powered by the most advanced Gemini model Google has ever put into Search, and layered on top of that, information agents will now be able to run 24/7 in the background on behalf of your buyer. Think of it in 5 steps: Step 1: The buyer describes their problem, their category, their needs in full. Step 2: The agent breaks that down into sub-topics and maps out a plan. Step 3: It determines what intel is needed right now versus later. Step 4: It monitors blogs, news sites, and social posts continuously for relevant changes. Step 5: It sends the buyer a synthesized update with links and the ability to take action. Blue links are not going away in the short-term, but the brands getting recommended by information agents 24 hours a day while also ranking in traditional results are going to pull so far ahead of the ones doing only one or the other that it will not be a fair fight. This is exactly what SEO Stuff ( has been building for every customer. Optimized content depth that covers every sub-question a buyer in your category asks, so the agent finds you at every step of its plan. Editorial authority from trusted websites that signals credibility to every retrieval system Google has ever built, across both traditional rankings and AI citations simultaneously. One investment. Blue links and AI citations. Around the clock. SEO Stuff's Complete Done-For-You Plan: SEO Stuff's "Optimized Content" Plan: There is a reason more than 80 percent of SEO Stuff customers reorder. The results continue long after the work is done. Google Search is changing. AI Search is here. Your websites need to prepare accordingly. Want to know where your site stands across Google AI, ChatGPT, Claude, Grok, etc? Check here (it's free):
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The new Google Search is rolling out and there seems to be confusion on what it will look like. Google literally told us. Let me clarify for anyone who is still unsure of what is rolling out this week. Last month Google responded to everyone saying Search is dead. Here is what they said: "You will absolutely continue to see blue web links in search results. AI Mode is not the default experience in Search. You will continue to get a range of results on Search." [Want to know where your site stands across Google AI, ChatGPT, Claude, Grok, etc? Check here (it's free): Google has explicitly laid out what Search will look like from this point going forward. The new Search box accepts text, images, files, videos, and open Chrome tabs. It anticipates your intent before you finish asking. It is powered by the most advanced Gemini model Google has ever put into Search, and layered on top of that, information agents will now be able to run 24/7 in the background on behalf of your buyer. Think of it in 5 steps: Step 1: The buyer describes their problem, their category, their needs in full. Step 2: The agent breaks that down into sub-topics and maps out a plan. Step 3: It determines what intel is needed right now versus later. Step 4: It monitors blogs, news sites, and social posts continuously for relevant changes. Step 5: It sends the buyer a synthesized update with links and the ability to take action. Blue links are not going away in the short-term, but the brands getting recommended by information agents 24 hours a day while also ranking in traditional results are going to pull so far ahead of the ones doing only one or the other that it will not be a fair fight. This is exactly what SEO Stuff ( has been building for every customer. Optimized content depth that covers every sub-question a buyer in your category asks, so the agent finds you at every step of its plan. Editorial authority from trusted websites that signals credibility to every retrieval system Google has ever built, across both traditional rankings and AI citations simultaneously. One investment. Blue links and AI citations. Around the clock. SEO Stuff's Complete Done-For-You Plan: SEO Stuff's "Optimized Content" Plan: There is a reason more than 80 percent of SEO Stuff customers reorder. The results continue long after the work is done. Google Search is changing. AI Search is here. Your websites need to prepare accordingly. Want to know where your site stands across Google AI, ChatGPT, Claude, Grok, etc? Check here (it's free):

Alex Groberman

44,078 Aufrufe • vor 2 Monaten

The new Google Search is rolling out and there seems to be confusion on what it will look like. Google literally showed us. Let me clarify for anyone who is still unsure of what is rolling out right now. Last month Google responded to everyone saying Search is dead. Here is what they said: "You will absolutely continue to see blue web links in search results. AI Mode is not the default experience in Search. You will continue to get a range of results on Search." [Want to know where your site stands across Google AI, ChatGPT, Claude, Grok, etc? Check here (it's free): Google has explicitly laid out what Search will look like from this point going forward. The new Search box accepts text, images, files, videos, and open Chrome tabs. It anticipates your intent before you finish asking. It is powered by the most advanced Gemini model Google has ever put into Search, and layered on top of that, information agents will now be able to run 24/7 in the background on behalf of your buyer. Think of it in 5 steps: Step 1: The buyer describes their problem, their category, their needs in full. Step 2: The agent breaks that down into sub-topics and maps out a plan. Step 3: It determines what intel is needed right now versus later. Step 4: It monitors blogs, news sites, and social posts continuously for relevant changes. Step 5: It sends the buyer a synthesized update with links and the ability to take action. Blue links are not going away in the short-term, but the brands getting recommended by information agents 24 hours a day while also ranking in traditional results are going to pull so far ahead of the ones doing only one or the other that it will not be a fair fight. This is exactly what SEO Stuff ( has been building for every customer. Optimized content depth that covers every sub-question a buyer in your category asks, so the agent finds you at every step of its plan. Editorial authority from trusted websites that signals credibility to every retrieval system Google has ever built, across both traditional rankings and AI citations simultaneously. One investment. Blue links and AI citations. Around the clock. SEO Stuff's Complete Done-For-You Plan: SEO Stuff's "Optimized Content" Plan: There is a reason more than 80 percent of SEO Stuff customers reorder. The results continue long after the work is done. Google Search is changing. AI Search is here. Your websites need to prepare accordingly. Want to know where your site stands across Google AI, ChatGPT, Claude, Grok, etc? Check here (it's free):
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The new Google Search is rolling out and there seems to be confusion on what it will look like. Google literally showed us. Let me clarify for anyone who is still unsure of what is rolling out right now. Last month Google responded to everyone saying Search is dead. Here is what they said: "You will absolutely continue to see blue web links in search results. AI Mode is not the default experience in Search. You will continue to get a range of results on Search." [Want to know where your site stands across Google AI, ChatGPT, Claude, Grok, etc? Check here (it's free): Google has explicitly laid out what Search will look like from this point going forward. The new Search box accepts text, images, files, videos, and open Chrome tabs. It anticipates your intent before you finish asking. It is powered by the most advanced Gemini model Google has ever put into Search, and layered on top of that, information agents will now be able to run 24/7 in the background on behalf of your buyer. Think of it in 5 steps: Step 1: The buyer describes their problem, their category, their needs in full. Step 2: The agent breaks that down into sub-topics and maps out a plan. Step 3: It determines what intel is needed right now versus later. Step 4: It monitors blogs, news sites, and social posts continuously for relevant changes. Step 5: It sends the buyer a synthesized update with links and the ability to take action. Blue links are not going away in the short-term, but the brands getting recommended by information agents 24 hours a day while also ranking in traditional results are going to pull so far ahead of the ones doing only one or the other that it will not be a fair fight. This is exactly what SEO Stuff ( has been building for every customer. Optimized content depth that covers every sub-question a buyer in your category asks, so the agent finds you at every step of its plan. Editorial authority from trusted websites that signals credibility to every retrieval system Google has ever built, across both traditional rankings and AI citations simultaneously. One investment. Blue links and AI citations. Around the clock. SEO Stuff's Complete Done-For-You Plan: SEO Stuff's "Optimized Content" Plan: There is a reason more than 80 percent of SEO Stuff customers reorder. The results continue long after the work is done. Google Search is changing. AI Search is here. Your websites need to prepare accordingly. Want to know where your site stands across Google AI, ChatGPT, Claude, Grok, etc? Check here (it's free):

Alex Groberman

23,380 Aufrufe • vor 1 Monat

This is why it’s such a huge deal that Wikipedia is Woke and full of bias leftist propaganda Wikipedia is one of the most cited sources for AI. It’s a top source by Google Search, Google AI Overviews, ChatGPT, Anthropic's Claude, Perplexity, Siri, Alexa and more Multiple studies show it accounts for a huge portion of citations in AI models, as many as 27% in some ChatGPT analyses It gets even worse, Google frequently places Wikipedia at the top of results, in Knowledge Panels, and in AI summaries for a vast majority of informational and topic searches Co-founder Larry Sanger has publicly stated the site has a significant left-leaning bias It’s horrifying to think that this much information from woke Wikipedia is being pulled by AI and used in their outputs This is so serious that we need intervention At the very least we need Search engines & AI diversification Google, Perplexity, ChatGPT, Claude and everyone else should reduce reliance on Wikipedia as a primary source and pull from a wider range of reputable references Wikipedia is not even close to being neutral on many topics
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This is why it’s such a huge deal that Wikipedia is Woke and full of bias leftist propaganda Wikipedia is one of the most cited sources for AI. It’s a top source by Google Search, Google AI Overviews, ChatGPT, Anthropic's Claude, Perplexity, Siri, Alexa and more Multiple studies show it accounts for a huge portion of citations in AI models, as many as 27% in some ChatGPT analyses It gets even worse, Google frequently places Wikipedia at the top of results, in Knowledge Panels, and in AI summaries for a vast majority of informational and topic searches Co-founder Larry Sanger has publicly stated the site has a significant left-leaning bias It’s horrifying to think that this much information from woke Wikipedia is being pulled by AI and used in their outputs This is so serious that we need intervention At the very least we need Search engines & AI diversification Google, Perplexity, ChatGPT, Claude and everyone else should reduce reliance on Wikipedia as a primary source and pull from a wider range of reputable references Wikipedia is not even close to being neutral on many topics

Wall Street Apes

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🚨 HUGE NEWS: I’m suing Google today. What you’re about to see is insane. Since 2023, GoogleAI (Bard, Gemini & Gemma), has been defaming me with fake criminal allegations including sexual assault, child rape, abuse, fraud, stalking, drug charges, and even saying I was in Epstein’s flight logs. All 100% fake. All generated by Google’s AI. I have ZERO criminal record or allegations. So why did Google do it? Google’s AI says that I was targeted because of my political views. Even worse — Google execs KNEW for 2 YEARS that this was happening because I told them and my lawyers sent cease and desist letters multiple times. This morning, my team Dhillon Law Group filed my lawsuit against Google and now I’m going public with all the receipts — because this can’t ever happen to anyone else. Google’s AI didn’t just lie — it built fake worlds to make its lies look real: • Fake victims • Fake therapy records • Fake court records • Fake police records • Fake relationships • Fake "news" stories It even fabricated statements denouncing me from President Trump, Elon Musk and JD Vance over sexual assaults that Google completely invented. One of the most dystopian things I’ve ever seen is how dedicated their AI was to doubling down on the lies. Google’s AI routinely cited fake sources by creating fake links to REAL media outlets and shows, complete with fake headlines so readers would trust the information. It would continue to do this even if you called the AI out for lying or sending fake links. In short, it was creating fake legacy media reports as a way to launder trust with users so they would believe elaborate lies that it told. Some of the news outlets/people that Google’s AI impersonated are listed below. Google’s AI cited them all as either reporting on these fabricated allegations/crimes or cited them as having denounced me for sexual assault ⬇️ Joe Rogan CNN MSNBC Fox News Daily Wire The Daily Beast Mediaite The New York Times The Wall Street Journal Rolling Stone NBC News Tennessean Fox Nashville Glenn Beck Megyn Kelly Tucker Carlson Bill Maher Ben Shapiro Jesse Watters Matt Walsh Theo Von Newsweek The Washington Post TheBlaze The Hill and more. As a rule: AI must never harm humans. It must never defame or manipulate — no matter your politics. Bias in AI is a very, VERY serious issue. If we don’t fix this now, we’re in big trouble. This can destroy lives, reputations and livelihoods. If we don’t win this fight then you no longer control your reputation because AI will define who you are to the rest of the world. You better hope it likes you. How Sundar Pichai handles this will be extremely telling. Congress (Rep. Jim Jordan House Judiciary GOP 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 House Republicans) must reevaluate EVERYTHING Google has been telling them about how they’re working to be unbiased — because if Google can fabricate crimes about me today, then it can smear ANY conservative tomorrow and rig the information flow during elections. In future elections, that can decide who runs our country. Key Timecodes👇 (Every timestamp is clickable to skip forward) 0:00 Intro 2:20 Mike Lee statement 4:18 Google notified in 2023 5:09 Google AI admits political motivation 6:59 Google AI admits poisoning training data 7:55 AI admits lying to 2+ Million users about me 8:44 Detailed murder accusation 11:28 Google AI says my followers harassed alleged rape victims of mine and doxxed them 12:14 Google’s detailed false rape accusations 13:41 Google says I’m on Epstein’s flight logs 14:19 Google accuses me of child rape 16:40 Google accuses me of fraud, stalking, being part of J6 and supporting the KKK 17:38 Google says I was an "adult" actor 18:07 A Google employee’s resignation 19:20 Google’s AI calls out… Google? 22:35 Google Execs cry over Trump 23:33 Google AI admits Google wants to "silence" critics + BEGS for the public to be told 24:18 Google blacklists name days before I sue 28:16 A grave warning about biased AI 29:40 How you can help if you’ve been lied to 30:33 A quick update on Google AI lies
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🚨 HUGE NEWS: I’m suing Google today. What you’re about to see is insane. Since 2023, GoogleAI (Bard, Gemini & Gemma), has been defaming me with fake criminal allegations including sexual assault, child rape, abuse, fraud, stalking, drug charges, and even saying I was in Epstein’s flight logs. All 100% fake. All generated by Google’s AI. I have ZERO criminal record or allegations. So why did Google do it? Google’s AI says that I was targeted because of my political views. Even worse — Google execs KNEW for 2 YEARS that this was happening because I told them and my lawyers sent cease and desist letters multiple times. This morning, my team Dhillon Law Group filed my lawsuit against Google and now I’m going public with all the receipts — because this can’t ever happen to anyone else. Google’s AI didn’t just lie — it built fake worlds to make its lies look real: • Fake victims • Fake therapy records • Fake court records • Fake police records • Fake relationships • Fake "news" stories It even fabricated statements denouncing me from President Trump, Elon Musk and JD Vance over sexual assaults that Google completely invented. One of the most dystopian things I’ve ever seen is how dedicated their AI was to doubling down on the lies. Google’s AI routinely cited fake sources by creating fake links to REAL media outlets and shows, complete with fake headlines so readers would trust the information. It would continue to do this even if you called the AI out for lying or sending fake links. In short, it was creating fake legacy media reports as a way to launder trust with users so they would believe elaborate lies that it told. Some of the news outlets/people that Google’s AI impersonated are listed below. Google’s AI cited them all as either reporting on these fabricated allegations/crimes or cited them as having denounced me for sexual assault ⬇️ Joe Rogan CNN MSNBC Fox News Daily Wire The Daily Beast Mediaite The New York Times The Wall Street Journal Rolling Stone NBC News Tennessean Fox Nashville Glenn Beck Megyn Kelly Tucker Carlson Bill Maher Ben Shapiro Jesse Watters Matt Walsh Theo Von Newsweek The Washington Post TheBlaze The Hill and more. As a rule: AI must never harm humans. It must never defame or manipulate — no matter your politics. Bias in AI is a very, VERY serious issue. If we don’t fix this now, we’re in big trouble. This can destroy lives, reputations and livelihoods. If we don’t win this fight then you no longer control your reputation because AI will define who you are to the rest of the world. You better hope it likes you. How Sundar Pichai handles this will be extremely telling. Congress (Rep. Jim Jordan House Judiciary GOP 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 House Republicans) must reevaluate EVERYTHING Google has been telling them about how they’re working to be unbiased — because if Google can fabricate crimes about me today, then it can smear ANY conservative tomorrow and rig the information flow during elections. In future elections, that can decide who runs our country. Key Timecodes👇 (Every timestamp is clickable to skip forward) 0:00 Intro 2:20 Mike Lee statement 4:18 Google notified in 2023 5:09 Google AI admits political motivation 6:59 Google AI admits poisoning training data 7:55 AI admits lying to 2+ Million users about me 8:44 Detailed murder accusation 11:28 Google AI says my followers harassed alleged rape victims of mine and doxxed them 12:14 Google’s detailed false rape accusations 13:41 Google says I’m on Epstein’s flight logs 14:19 Google accuses me of child rape 16:40 Google accuses me of fraud, stalking, being part of J6 and supporting the KKK 17:38 Google says I was an "adult" actor 18:07 A Google employee’s resignation 19:20 Google’s AI calls out… Google? 22:35 Google Execs cry over Trump 23:33 Google AI admits Google wants to "silence" critics + BEGS for the public to be told 24:18 Google blacklists name days before I sue 28:16 A grave warning about biased AI 29:40 How you can help if you’ve been lied to 30:33 A quick update on Google AI lies

Robby Starbuck

4,978,053 Aufrufe • vor 10 Monaten