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J-Cal Explains Why Google is UNDERRATED in AI 👀 On E227, the besties discussed Google's value in a post-search world if AI replaces traditional search. @jason broke down why he thinks Google is being slept on: "I think there's a chance that we're underestimating the power of Google's ad...

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@Jason @Jason Hey Jason, one thing that I haven’t heard mentioned yet is that nearly 60% of Schools are using Google WorkSpace and have deployed a large number of Chromebook’s into students hands.

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@Jason Not one single ad @google has served me in the past year has gotten my engagement. Not. One. Their tools are just terrible. I'd love to see something interesting or at least decently produced

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@Jason I like JCal's ideas.

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@Jason This is actually genius, @Jason

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@Jason Jcal is right

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Also they have @fchollet who’s heading the Keras project. Also imo he’s ideas although unbeknownst are closer to a Popperian epistemology (@DavidDeutschOxf ) point of view for AGI than @ylecun @ilyasut @karpathy Even though @fchollet is still way off on AGI. As his theory is behavioristic.

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@Jason Google's AI potential is massively overlooked.

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@Jason Google underrated? That’s a bold take How long till AI owns everything, including search?

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@Jason I agree. Saw a number of people on X this week calling death for Google after the stock was down on the Apple news. Their Q1 Earnings report was quite remarkable, and I think people often underestimate the sheer size of this company's earnings/presence.

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@Jason Yes google is over sold I bought some this week.

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Jaynit

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Good Products are Opinionated. “Every great founder I’ve seen up close, or even from afar, is highly opinionated and they’re almost dictatorial in how they run things. Also, early-stage teams are opinionated. And the products they build are opinionated. Opinionated means they have a strong vision for what it should and should not do. If you don’t have a strong vision of what it should and should not do, then you end up with a giant mess of competing features. jack Dorsey has a great phrase: “Limit the number of details and make every detail perfect.” And that’s especially important in consumer products. You have to be extremely opinionated. All the best products in consumer-land get there through simplicity. You could argue the recent success of ChatGPT and similar AI chatbots is because they’re even simpler than Google. Google looked like the simplest product you could possibly build. It was just a box. But even that box had limitations in what you could do. You were trained not to talk to it conversationally. You would enter keywords and you had to be careful with those keywords. You couldn’t just ask a question outright and get a sensible answer. It wouldn’t do proper synonym matching, and then it would spit you back a whole bunch of results. That was complicated. You’d have to sift through and figure out which ones were ads, which ones were real, were they sorted correctly, and then you’d have to click through and read it. ChatGPT and the chatbot simplified that even further. You just talk to it like a human—use your voice or you type and it gives you back a straight answer. It might not always be right, but it’s good enough, and it gives you back a straight answer in text or voice or images or whatever you prefer. So it simplifies what we looked at as the simplest product on the Internet, which was formerly Google, and makes it even simpler. And you just cannot make a product that’s simple enough. To be simple, you have to be extremely opinionated. You have to remove everything that doesn’t match your opinion of what the product should be doing. You have to meticulously remove every single click, every single extra button, every single setting. In fact, things in the settings menu are an indication that you’ve abdicated your responsibility to the user. Choices for the user are an abdication of your responsibility. Maybe for legal or important reasons, you can have a few of these, but you should struggle and resist against every single choice the user has to make. In the age of TikTok and ChatGPT, that’s more obvious than ever. People don’t want to make choices. They don’t want the cognitive load. They want you to figure out what the right defaults are and what they should be doing and looking at, and they want you to present it to them.”
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Good Products are Opinionated. “Every great founder I’ve seen up close, or even from afar, is highly opinionated and they’re almost dictatorial in how they run things. Also, early-stage teams are opinionated. And the products they build are opinionated. Opinionated means they have a strong vision for what it should and should not do. If you don’t have a strong vision of what it should and should not do, then you end up with a giant mess of competing features. jack Dorsey has a great phrase: “Limit the number of details and make every detail perfect.” And that’s especially important in consumer products. You have to be extremely opinionated. All the best products in consumer-land get there through simplicity. You could argue the recent success of ChatGPT and similar AI chatbots is because they’re even simpler than Google. Google looked like the simplest product you could possibly build. It was just a box. But even that box had limitations in what you could do. You were trained not to talk to it conversationally. You would enter keywords and you had to be careful with those keywords. You couldn’t just ask a question outright and get a sensible answer. It wouldn’t do proper synonym matching, and then it would spit you back a whole bunch of results. That was complicated. You’d have to sift through and figure out which ones were ads, which ones were real, were they sorted correctly, and then you’d have to click through and read it. ChatGPT and the chatbot simplified that even further. You just talk to it like a human—use your voice or you type and it gives you back a straight answer. It might not always be right, but it’s good enough, and it gives you back a straight answer in text or voice or images or whatever you prefer. So it simplifies what we looked at as the simplest product on the Internet, which was formerly Google, and makes it even simpler. And you just cannot make a product that’s simple enough. To be simple, you have to be extremely opinionated. You have to remove everything that doesn’t match your opinion of what the product should be doing. You have to meticulously remove every single click, every single extra button, every single setting. In fact, things in the settings menu are an indication that you’ve abdicated your responsibility to the user. Choices for the user are an abdication of your responsibility. Maybe for legal or important reasons, you can have a few of these, but you should struggle and resist against every single choice the user has to make. In the age of TikTok and ChatGPT, that’s more obvious than ever. People don’t want to make choices. They don’t want the cognitive load. They want you to figure out what the right defaults are and what they should be doing and looking at, and they want you to present it to them.”

Naval

468,980 Aufrufe • vor 7 Monaten

Today I’m excited to introduce Copilot Search in Bing. Copilot Search blends the best of traditional and generative search to help you find what you need. Whether it’s a navigational search result, a quick straightforward answer, or a complex query that leads you on a journey of discovery, Bing is your AI-powered search and answer engine. Copilot Search is rolling out today to everyone. To get started, go to and start exploring. This is a meaningful next step in our evolution of search, building on our learnings from Bing Chat, Copilot, and Bing Generative Search to provide our users the best search experience while supporting and building a healthy web ecosystem. Learn more in today’s announcement:
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Today I’m excited to introduce Copilot Search in Bing. Copilot Search blends the best of traditional and generative search to help you find what you need. Whether it’s a navigational search result, a quick straightforward answer, or a complex query that leads you on a journey of discovery, Bing is your AI-powered search and answer engine. Copilot Search is rolling out today to everyone. To get started, go to and start exploring. This is a meaningful next step in our evolution of search, building on our learnings from Bing Chat, Copilot, and Bing Generative Search to provide our users the best search experience while supporting and building a healthy web ecosystem. Learn more in today’s announcement:

Jordi Ribas

16,729 Aufrufe • vor 1 Jahr

✨ Today I rebuilt 🏔️ AltaVista Search, the main search engine before Google existed The problem: if you press the 🔍Search button in MSIE4 it'll open a sidebar with AltaVista in it that opens: http:// home . microsoft . com/search/search.asp But that URL doesn't resolve anymore of course, so how do I make this work? I asked Claude Code and built a Dnsmasq DNS server that routes all regular DNS queries to Cloudflare but for home . microsoft . com it hijacks it and sends it to my own server Then I let Nginx respond to that doamin and show the Altavista Search sidebar, I had to rebuild the design from a video on YouTube because I couldn't find any actual archeological remains of it anymore Also Altavista Search of course doesn't exist anymore so it can't respond to queries either so I use a SERP API to query search results from Google and display them instead This is stuff I wouldn't even be close to doing before AI, I'd have no idea how to configure Dnsmasq to spoof queries like this The search engine results are proxied via my HTTP proxy so MSIE4 can open most sites (because old browsers don't support HTTPS and most JS!)
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✨ Today I rebuilt 🏔️ AltaVista Search, the main search engine before Google existed The problem: if you press the 🔍Search button in MSIE4 it'll open a sidebar with AltaVista in it that opens: http:// home . microsoft . com/search/search.asp But that URL doesn't resolve anymore of course, so how do I make this work? I asked Claude Code and built a Dnsmasq DNS server that routes all regular DNS queries to Cloudflare but for home . microsoft . com it hijacks it and sends it to my own server Then I let Nginx respond to that doamin and show the Altavista Search sidebar, I had to rebuild the design from a video on YouTube because I couldn't find any actual archeological remains of it anymore Also Altavista Search of course doesn't exist anymore so it can't respond to queries either so I use a SERP API to query search results from Google and display them instead This is stuff I wouldn't even be close to doing before AI, I'd have no idea how to configure Dnsmasq to spoof queries like this The search engine results are proxied via my HTTP proxy so MSIE4 can open most sites (because old browsers don't support HTTPS and most JS!)

@levelsio

84,373 Aufrufe • vor 5 Monaten

We're rolling out new updates to help people shop in the new era of agentic commerce: -A new checkout feature powered by the Universal Commerce Protocol that will soon let you buy directly on AI Mode in Search and the Google Gemini right as you’re researching on Google. -Business Agent, an AI chat that enables shoppers to connect directly with eligible U.S. retailers on Search to answer questions, like a virtual sales associate -Direct Offers, a new pilot that lets retailers share a personalized deal — like a special discount — with shoppers who are ready to buy, directly in the AI Mode results.
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We're rolling out new updates to help people shop in the new era of agentic commerce: -A new checkout feature powered by the Universal Commerce Protocol that will soon let you buy directly on AI Mode in Search and the Google Gemini right as you’re researching on Google. -Business Agent, an AI chat that enables shoppers to connect directly with eligible U.S. retailers on Search to answer questions, like a virtual sales associate -Direct Offers, a new pilot that lets retailers share a personalized deal — like a special discount — with shoppers who are ready to buy, directly in the AI Mode results.

Google

206,390 Aufrufe • vor 6 Monaten

Introducing Ask YouTube, our new conversational search experience in YouTube. 📽️ With Ask YouTube, you can ask more complex search queries, like needing help planning a road trip through the California coast or wanting tips on how to teach your kid to ride a bike. You can even ask follow-up questions to continue refining what you’re looking for. Ask YouTube will compile the most relevant videos across all of YouTube’s catalogue — including long-form videos and Shorts — and provide an interactive, structured response instead of the usual list of video recommendations. Ask YouTube is currently available for Premium members in the U.S., and it’ll be rolling out to all YouTube users soon.
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Introducing Ask YouTube, our new conversational search experience in YouTube. 📽️ With Ask YouTube, you can ask more complex search queries, like needing help planning a road trip through the California coast or wanting tips on how to teach your kid to ride a bike. You can even ask follow-up questions to continue refining what you’re looking for. Ask YouTube will compile the most relevant videos across all of YouTube’s catalogue — including long-form videos and Shorts — and provide an interactive, structured response instead of the usual list of video recommendations. Ask YouTube is currently available for Premium members in the U.S., and it’ll be rolling out to all YouTube users soon.

Google

210,872 Aufrufe • vor 1 Monat

After several years of declining search traffic, Condé Nast CEO Roger Lynch has directed all the company's brands to operate as if search traffic to their properties will be zero. He says the era of turning search and social media traffic into profitable businesses is gone. And that if you run a media business that doesn't have an authoritative brand, a very strong niche, or a direct audience, you're going to be fighting hostile algo changes all the way down. He describes a recent board meeting: "We took a snapshot of search results from seven or eight years ago. And what you saw were a few sponsored links, then the ten blue links." "Do the same search today, you get an AI overview, then you get rows and rows and rows of commerce links, then you get sponsored stuff." "Each of the last three years, we would do our budgets, and we'd put forecasts in of search traffic declining. Because we'd seen the pattern of algorithm changes. And generally those algorithm changes were negative." "Every year, our search traffic was down more than we had forecast. So last year I told our teams, 'Assume there's no search.' You have to have your businesses planned as if search is zero. We don't expect it to be zero, we expect it to be a single-digit percentage of our traffic."
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After several years of declining search traffic, Condé Nast CEO Roger Lynch has directed all the company's brands to operate as if search traffic to their properties will be zero. He says the era of turning search and social media traffic into profitable businesses is gone. And that if you run a media business that doesn't have an authoritative brand, a very strong niche, or a direct audience, you're going to be fighting hostile algo changes all the way down. He describes a recent board meeting: "We took a snapshot of search results from seven or eight years ago. And what you saw were a few sponsored links, then the ten blue links." "Do the same search today, you get an AI overview, then you get rows and rows and rows of commerce links, then you get sponsored stuff." "Each of the last three years, we would do our budgets, and we'd put forecasts in of search traffic declining. Because we'd seen the pattern of algorithm changes. And generally those algorithm changes were negative." "Every year, our search traffic was down more than we had forecast. So last year I told our teams, 'Assume there's no search.' You have to have your businesses planned as if search is zero. We don't expect it to be zero, we expect it to be a single-digit percentage of our traffic."

TBPN

328,638 Aufrufe • vor 2 Monaten

Travis Kalanick: Tesla is the Google of the Physical AI Era “I like to break down the physical AI stack: (it) includes computation, a physical AI model, all the things you think of.” “What about land? Development? That should be in that stack. What about chemistry? That needs to be in the stack. Manufacturing needs to be a stack.” “When you look at the stack, you're like, ‘Damn, Tesla's got this sh*t.’ They are the Google of this era.” “What I mean by that is, if you were doing a startup in the 2000s, the first question you would get is, ‘Why isn't Google gonna kill you?’ Or, ‘Why isn't Google just gonna do it?’ They’re not even gonna know that they killed you.” “And before that, it was Microsoft in the late 90s. Uber had a time, 2010s.” “But in the physical AI space, that's sort of a Tesla thing.” -------------------------------------------- Thanks to our partner for making this happen!: EY (EY) Austin vibes meet AI innovation. Thanks to EY for co‑hosting with us at #SXSW. Discover what executives are saying about AI transformation in the latest AI Pulse Survey.
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Travis Kalanick: Tesla is the Google of the Physical AI Era “I like to break down the physical AI stack: (it) includes computation, a physical AI model, all the things you think of.” “What about land? Development? That should be in that stack. What about chemistry? That needs to be in the stack. Manufacturing needs to be a stack.” “When you look at the stack, you're like, ‘Damn, Tesla's got this sh*t.’ They are the Google of this era.” “What I mean by that is, if you were doing a startup in the 2000s, the first question you would get is, ‘Why isn't Google gonna kill you?’ Or, ‘Why isn't Google just gonna do it?’ They’re not even gonna know that they killed you.” “And before that, it was Microsoft in the late 90s. Uber had a time, 2010s.” “But in the physical AI space, that's sort of a Tesla thing.” -------------------------------------------- Thanks to our partner for making this happen!: EY (EY) Austin vibes meet AI innovation. Thanks to EY for co‑hosting with us at #SXSW. Discover what executives are saying about AI transformation in the latest AI Pulse Survey.

The All-In Podcast

94,872 Aufrufe • vor 4 Monaten