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David Sacks says an open-source AI ban is coming, disguised as holding open models to the same standard as closed "I got bad news for you, Chamath. An open source ban is coming. They're not going to call it that." "You know what they're going to say? They're going...

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Gringo Investments1 ay önce

Great way to let Chinese AI take over the world.

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Joe Norton1 ay önce

completely Un-American to try and limit opportunity & knowledge like this

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AllTheTokens ∞1 ay önce

If the govt actually allows this to happen they are beyond stupid. They have no idea the amount of research that is contributed from the outside. This will vanish overnight and stagnate the entire industry.

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boisselle 🇺🇸1 ay önce

Banning open source AI would be like banning the internet in its early days and not only would it be very foolish, it would violate free speech.

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brn :)1 ay önce

Classic. Never call it a ban. Just “apply the same standards.” Suddenly every open model needs the same pre-release testing apparatus the frontier labs already staffed up for, and the only people who can comply are the ones who already have the money and the lawyers. Meanwhile China keeps training and shipping. Brilliant strategy if the goal is to lose.

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Moot Point, Stocks + AI1 ay önce

@grok David sacks is no longer in White House ? He talks about government as “they”

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Fireside Alpha1 ay önce

Ft @DavidSacks

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J.1 ay önce

do you really think somebody who can afford 100k+ for GPUs gives a flying shit about a 'ban'. it'd be just taken off shore, with their own servers, running all ops remotely. some shed in nicaragua, with a 6 bolt double door.

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ヤバイ1 ay önce

It is too late. I already have an open source uncensored ai that is more powerful than Dario ever dreamed of the masses getting their hands on. Every closed source model can and will be distilled and distributed open source. The future is small specialized models.

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RelativelySmart1 ay önce

Not surprising

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Hans Lindt1 ay önce

@gordonschuecker Very US centric debate. ROW: 🥱 Do it.

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Sifossifoco1 ay önce

Sure, banning anything that is more advanced is the best way to live in the middle ages. No AI, no modern cars, no robots. Block immigration too, because only poor and desperate people will try to enter a stale country. And get few lords squeezing the peasants, of course

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TheBattlestation1 ay önce

Show me the enforcement mechanism. How do you ban anyome from using open source software? If you just say "using it is illegal", you think any of us would just simply comply?

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JacobinJuice1 ay önce

Anthropic and OpenAI want protectionism. They want to be regulated like they are special. They want big government daddy. Open source competition will be squashed as politicians are lied to that only regulations on these 2 companies will save Earth.

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OrcaRouter 🐳1 ay önce

@OrcaDub dub the video for the Chinese open source folks

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Muhammad Umar 🇺🇸1 ay önce

If Washington restricts American open weights, the Middle East and South Asia do not go closed. They go Chinese, and they stay there. The answer is to ship ours harder, not to pull them.

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Tom Löwe1 ay önce

The Epstein Class fears any AI they cannot censor. They are even willing to throw the American military into a disastrous, cataclysmic war with China to prevent open-source Chinese AI from revealing the truth about their many crimes against humanity.

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Suede Shoe Cap1 ay önce

@GavinSBaker thoughts?

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BartBumpBailey1 ay önce

Blame “they” and not the people in charge?

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JD1 ay önce

This will move data center construction outside of US

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Relative Value Mike1 ay önce

Are we going to assume CCP controlled models coming out of China are going to be any less regulated? Whatever regulatory capture US is doing is going to be 10x worse in China

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Ed (Eduardo) Rodriguez Jr.1 ay önce

So why not regulating them all? The same as blockchain.

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Orin1 ay önce

Boooooo

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Ravishanker 🇵🇸 🇨🇺1 ay önce

And chamath is concerned? He is trying to cope. In reality he wants stricter control of open models but chose to disguise as not.

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Name1 ay önce

Only a few AI labs benefit from a ban. All the other tech companies don't want this to happen, so it won't.

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Frank1 ay önce

If we can't prevent this with Sacks in the WH, what the hell can we do

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angel hernandez1 ay önce

hey @grok how does this change the private-sector race for companies training models on their own data (keep it dumb and easy for me to understand)

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Maximus Bertius1 ay önce

How does china play in these us political games?

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Rez-AI1 ay önce

It’ll only affect America, though. The rest of the world will carry on as we are and move away from US closed-source models. American chip companies will continue to do well, unless the USG slaps export bans on hardware worldwide, which will just push the global market towards Chinese hardware.

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lyntwo1 ay önce

FINRA: Financial Industry Regulatory Authority A private agency.

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Joe Schmo1 ay önce

David Sacks is the one person who could have stopped this

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kalin1 ay önce

if you look to history a little 'incident' could probably speed things up or that's how people in charge often seem to think

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