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Sam Altman says society will have to accept severe cyberattacks from open-source AI as the price of preserving freedom "I support open source models. There is a coming tidal wave of cybersecurity problems that are going to come from these open source models" "There are people in the industry... show more

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Laus tacendi3 days ago

What the PoS really means, is that he wants to kill open source models.

Nuke3 days ago

The narrative that you must choose between security and open source is a classic false dichotomy. We don't have to pick sides here.

Pepe3.12 days ago

they're so threatened by open source

Andre William Duval2 days ago

The price we must pay for freedom is to stop the AI companies from trying to create our masters,

Life is a Liberty Matter2 days ago

The attacks are likely to come from more advanced frontier models.

Jordan Radoci2 days ago

Why are we allowing this guy to make decisions that will effect everyone?

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Cyberpunk25632 days ago

Gee whiz this guy is terrible for the industry. Does he really think he can injure people and get away with it no matter the reasons?😆🙃

RT MAX2 days ago

The problems all seem to come from ChatGPT but please reframe and diflect mo.

JD2 days ago

Oh no, here we are finally

Bitcoin Banker2 days ago

#OpenSource

Cyberpunk25632 days ago

😆🖕

EW | Personal Finance & Investing3 days ago

He’s not wrong but that hasn’t happened yet.

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