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Demis Hassabis reveals Google's three-stage stack rewrite: AI first, model first, agent first. Bolting agents onto normal software does not scale to billions. "We've got to, we've done a lot of engineering work under the hood in the last year, which you'll see, you see the surface of when...

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Demis Hassabis, CEO of Google DeepMind, explains how young founders can build billion-dollar companies using AI tools the labs themselves haven't fully explored: He argues that the frontier of opportunity in AI is shifting away from building models and toward applying them. His advice to young founders: "You've got to just go with the flow of the direction. I would immerse myself in every tool available and just become almost like superpowered." Even at the frontier labs, the team can only scratch the surface of what's possible with their own technology. Demis Hassabis states: "So for us like Veo and Nano Banana and Gemini, even we can only explore a fraction of what the applied things you could do with it, the applications you could make with it." And the pace of new releases is making this even harder to keep up with: "I think that gap's getting bigger and bigger in terms of the overhang of the capabilities, all the cool stuff from the latest models, and the release schedules are getting faster and faster on that." This creates an enormous opening for outsiders willing to go deep on the tools. His conclusion is striking: "A kid these days could probably start a multi-billion dollar business in some ways using these tools in some new way that no one had thought about."
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Demis Hassabis, CEO of Google DeepMind, explains how young founders can build billion-dollar companies using AI tools the labs themselves haven't fully explored: He argues that the frontier of opportunity in AI is shifting away from building models and toward applying them. His advice to young founders: "You've got to just go with the flow of the direction. I would immerse myself in every tool available and just become almost like superpowered." Even at the frontier labs, the team can only scratch the surface of what's possible with their own technology. Demis Hassabis states: "So for us like Veo and Nano Banana and Gemini, even we can only explore a fraction of what the applied things you could do with it, the applications you could make with it." And the pace of new releases is making this even harder to keep up with: "I think that gap's getting bigger and bigger in terms of the overhang of the capabilities, all the cool stuff from the latest models, and the release schedules are getting faster and faster on that." This creates an enormous opening for outsiders willing to go deep on the tools. His conclusion is striking: "A kid these days could probably start a multi-billion dollar business in some ways using these tools in some new way that no one had thought about."

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