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DROPS E25: Shaaran 🛸 from Multipli.fi: Why Trillions Will Soon Move On-Chain! In this episode, Shaaran breaks down why stablecoins, tokenization, on-chain yield, and the US debt system are all converging into the biggest shift crypto has ever seen - and how Multipli is building the infrastructure to power...

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Even though Plume just launched its mainnet in June, it already has $5B assets in the pipeline and over half of all RWA holders in crypto Its cofounder Chris Yin shares on Talking Tokens Podcast how Plume went from a product app to a full chain, why most tokenized assets fail, and what it takes to make RWAs usable. Timestamps 0:00 – What is Plume Network? 1:32 – Chris’s background: DeFi summer, yield farming, and app-layer insights 2:15 – Why most tokenized assets fail: no usage, no velocity 4:03 – Why Plume had to build its own chain 5:42 – Tokenization isn’t enough — here’s what else matters 8:01 – RWAs as crypto’s biggest opportunity (bigger than all DeFi) 9:33 – Stable yield, composability, and how users interact with assets 12:16 – What makes tokenized assets actually usable 14:00 – Top-down vs bottoms-up tokenization 16:00 – Mineral Vault: onboarded 80K holders in a month 19:12 – Plume’s Phase 2: onboarding non-crypto users 20:30 – Why real traction > flashy launches 22:41 – The real numbers behind RWA growth 25:50 – Plume’s 2025 goal: $1B in clean, onchain RWA value 27:48 – Structured products will unlock the next wave 30:50 – Long-term vision: an onchain BlackRock 32:10 – It’s not about one asset — it’s the full stack 36:36 – Honoring Co-Founder Eugene Chen 39:25 – Final advice: focus long-term, but adapt fast
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Even though Plume just launched its mainnet in June, it already has $5B assets in the pipeline and over half of all RWA holders in crypto Its cofounder Chris Yin shares on Talking Tokens Podcast how Plume went from a product app to a full chain, why most tokenized assets fail, and what it takes to make RWAs usable. Timestamps 0:00 – What is Plume Network? 1:32 – Chris’s background: DeFi summer, yield farming, and app-layer insights 2:15 – Why most tokenized assets fail: no usage, no velocity 4:03 – Why Plume had to build its own chain 5:42 – Tokenization isn’t enough — here’s what else matters 8:01 – RWAs as crypto’s biggest opportunity (bigger than all DeFi) 9:33 – Stable yield, composability, and how users interact with assets 12:16 – What makes tokenized assets actually usable 14:00 – Top-down vs bottoms-up tokenization 16:00 – Mineral Vault: onboarded 80K holders in a month 19:12 – Plume’s Phase 2: onboarding non-crypto users 20:30 – Why real traction > flashy launches 22:41 – The real numbers behind RWA growth 25:50 – Plume’s 2025 goal: $1B in clean, onchain RWA value 27:48 – Structured products will unlock the next wave 30:50 – Long-term vision: an onchain BlackRock 32:10 – It’s not about one asset — it’s the full stack 36:36 – Honoring Co-Founder Eugene Chen 39:25 – Final advice: focus long-term, but adapt fast

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DROPS E36: Streamex ( 🪨 , ⛏️ ) - From NFTs to Nasdaq at 26 - and now building the future of commodities Henry McPhie ( 🪨 , ⛏️ ) is the co-founder and CEO of Stream X, a Nasdaq-listed company tokenizing physical commodities. He's a mining engineer by training who got into crypto through NFTs at 19, refunded his entire community when the project wound down, and pivoted into building what he calls the future of commodities. We talk about: - Why GLDY pays you to hold gold while every ETF and physical vault charges you - How gold leasing works and why jewellers would rather rent gold than buy it - Why GLDY is currently institutional-only and what the permissionless version looks like - How silver fits into the roadmap and why it'll be built differently - How he raised $55 million on Nasdaq at 26 by surrounding himself with people who'd already done it And much more... Timestamps: - Introduction - What Streamex Actually Does? - Henry's Background - How he get into Mining - Building a NASDAQ Company at 26 - From NFT Founder to Public Company CEO - How Much of Success Is Luck? - World of Crypto - Taking an NFT Founder Seriously - Raising $55M at a Young Age - What Is Streamex? - Why We Need Tokenized Commodities? - Why Traditional Gold Doesn't Earn Yield - Why Gold Was Chosen? - Building This as a Public Company - Why List in the US Instead of Canada? - Sponsorship NordVPN - Being Taken Seriously at 26 - Is StreamX a Crypto or Finance Company? - GLDY Different From Gold ETFs - How Scalable is Gold Leasing? - Maths behind 3.5% Yield - Risks Behind Lending Gold - RFID Tracking & Gold Verification - Other Ways to Earn Yield on Gold - Goal: $1B in AUM - Why GLDY Is Institution-Focused - Misconceptions About GLDY - Which Institutions Will Adopt First? - Silver Is the Next Focus - Silver Will Be Retail-Friendly - What Are Vaults in DeFi? - Security Tokens vs Permissionless Assets - What Comes After Silver? - How Mining Royalties Work? - Conclusion
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DROPS E36: Streamex ( 🪨 , ⛏️ ) - From NFTs to Nasdaq at 26 - and now building the future of commodities Henry McPhie ( 🪨 , ⛏️ ) is the co-founder and CEO of Stream X, a Nasdaq-listed company tokenizing physical commodities. He's a mining engineer by training who got into crypto through NFTs at 19, refunded his entire community when the project wound down, and pivoted into building what he calls the future of commodities. We talk about: - Why GLDY pays you to hold gold while every ETF and physical vault charges you - How gold leasing works and why jewellers would rather rent gold than buy it - Why GLDY is currently institutional-only and what the permissionless version looks like - How silver fits into the roadmap and why it'll be built differently - How he raised $55 million on Nasdaq at 26 by surrounding himself with people who'd already done it And much more... Timestamps: - Introduction - What Streamex Actually Does? - Henry's Background - How he get into Mining - Building a NASDAQ Company at 26 - From NFT Founder to Public Company CEO - How Much of Success Is Luck? - World of Crypto - Taking an NFT Founder Seriously - Raising $55M at a Young Age - What Is Streamex? - Why We Need Tokenized Commodities? - Why Traditional Gold Doesn't Earn Yield - Why Gold Was Chosen? - Building This as a Public Company - Why List in the US Instead of Canada? - Sponsorship NordVPN - Being Taken Seriously at 26 - Is StreamX a Crypto or Finance Company? - GLDY Different From Gold ETFs - How Scalable is Gold Leasing? - Maths behind 3.5% Yield - Risks Behind Lending Gold - RFID Tracking & Gold Verification - Other Ways to Earn Yield on Gold - Goal: $1B in AUM - Why GLDY Is Institution-Focused - Misconceptions About GLDY - Which Institutions Will Adopt First? - Silver Is the Next Focus - Silver Will Be Retail-Friendly - What Are Vaults in DeFi? - Security Tokens vs Permissionless Assets - What Comes After Silver? - How Mining Royalties Work? - Conclusion

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E183: Jupiter COO - Why Solana Is The Everything Chain and Why Get Rich Slow Is The Real Alpha kash is the COO of Jupiter, the biggest trading and DeFi platform on Solana. He got his start on the founding team at Superteam, then spent the last year and a half building Jupiter into what he calls the on-chain finance super app. We get into why he keeps half his own portfolio in yield-bearing stablecoins, why meme coins are just video games with no staying power, and why he thinks the fat protocol thesis got it backwards. Timestamps: 0:00 Intro 2:10 Crypto's Middleman Problem 3:20 What TradFi Actually Knows About Crypto 4:46 Crypto's Place Inside TradFi 6:19 Early Tech, Late Investment? 7:59 Who Is Kash Dhanda? 9:26 Kash's Role At Superteam 11:42 Why Kevin Went All-In On $SOL in 2023 & $ZEC in 2025 13:02 Infinite Capitalism, Explained 16:07 Sponsors: Variational & Bitwise 17:00 Which Assets Win When Liquidity Is Scarce 19:15 Kash On Memecoins 21:27 Why Keep 10% For Gambling 22:58 The Hidden Cost Of Infinite Capitalism 24:15 Getting Rich In Crypto Without Luck 26:18 Timing Beats Holding 27:25 The Only Way To Compound Wealth 31:14 The Case For All-In Stablecoins 32:59 Protocols Kash Actually Trusts 34:12 Kash's Stablecoin Allocation 37:07 How To Know You're Wrong 40:10 Sponsors KAST 40:58 Yield's TAM Is About To Explode 43:21 Is Solana Back From The Dead? 45:32 Where SOL's $1B Liquidity Really Goes 47:09 Solana's Biggest Weakness 48:44 Building Products Without Breaking Solana 51:01 Solana's 2026 Thesis 52:23 Is SOL Future-Proof? 54:07 What Jupiter Actually Is 54:34 How Jupiter Stops You From Getting Rekt 56:13 Why Ethena Powers JUPUSD 57:19 Why Jupiter Needs Its Own Stablecoin 1:00:05 How $JUP Generates Yield 1:01:08 The Super App Race: Who Wins? 1:03:20 Jupiter Spend, Explained 1:04:58 Sponsors Jupiter & Ethena 1:05:42 Why Jupiter Spend Wins 1:07:39 GUM Explained Simply 1:10:20 What Else GUM Unlocks 1:12:30 Does Solana's Success Lift Jupiter? 1:14:45 Why $JUP Flopped Last Cycle 1:17:21 Jupiter's Comeback Plan 1:19:23 Is $JUP A Buy? 1:20:38 Hyperliquid vs Jupiter & GUM 1:21:38 Why Everyone's Talking About Hyperliquid 1:23:28 The Biggest Takeaway 1:24:15 Closing Thoughts
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E183: Jupiter COO - Why Solana Is The Everything Chain and Why Get Rich Slow Is The Real Alpha kash is the COO of Jupiter, the biggest trading and DeFi platform on Solana. He got his start on the founding team at Superteam, then spent the last year and a half building Jupiter into what he calls the on-chain finance super app. We get into why he keeps half his own portfolio in yield-bearing stablecoins, why meme coins are just video games with no staying power, and why he thinks the fat protocol thesis got it backwards. Timestamps: 0:00 Intro 2:10 Crypto's Middleman Problem 3:20 What TradFi Actually Knows About Crypto 4:46 Crypto's Place Inside TradFi 6:19 Early Tech, Late Investment? 7:59 Who Is Kash Dhanda? 9:26 Kash's Role At Superteam 11:42 Why Kevin Went All-In On $SOL in 2023 & $ZEC in 2025 13:02 Infinite Capitalism, Explained 16:07 Sponsors: Variational & Bitwise 17:00 Which Assets Win When Liquidity Is Scarce 19:15 Kash On Memecoins 21:27 Why Keep 10% For Gambling 22:58 The Hidden Cost Of Infinite Capitalism 24:15 Getting Rich In Crypto Without Luck 26:18 Timing Beats Holding 27:25 The Only Way To Compound Wealth 31:14 The Case For All-In Stablecoins 32:59 Protocols Kash Actually Trusts 34:12 Kash's Stablecoin Allocation 37:07 How To Know You're Wrong 40:10 Sponsors KAST 40:58 Yield's TAM Is About To Explode 43:21 Is Solana Back From The Dead? 45:32 Where SOL's $1B Liquidity Really Goes 47:09 Solana's Biggest Weakness 48:44 Building Products Without Breaking Solana 51:01 Solana's 2026 Thesis 52:23 Is SOL Future-Proof? 54:07 What Jupiter Actually Is 54:34 How Jupiter Stops You From Getting Rekt 56:13 Why Ethena Powers JUPUSD 57:19 Why Jupiter Needs Its Own Stablecoin 1:00:05 How $JUP Generates Yield 1:01:08 The Super App Race: Who Wins? 1:03:20 Jupiter Spend, Explained 1:04:58 Sponsors Jupiter & Ethena 1:05:42 Why Jupiter Spend Wins 1:07:39 GUM Explained Simply 1:10:20 What Else GUM Unlocks 1:12:30 Does Solana's Success Lift Jupiter? 1:14:45 Why $JUP Flopped Last Cycle 1:17:21 Jupiter's Comeback Plan 1:19:23 Is $JUP A Buy? 1:20:38 Hyperliquid vs Jupiter & GUM 1:21:38 Why Everyone's Talking About Hyperliquid 1:23:28 The Biggest Takeaway 1:24:15 Closing Thoughts

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The Bitcoin L2 landscape is evolving rapidly and muneeb.btc of stacks.btc is one of the builders at the forefront of it. He shares on Talking Tokens Podcast why Bitcoin needs L2s, the evolution of BTCfi, and what the next wave of bitcoin adoption can look like. TIMESTAMPS: 0:00 – Intro 1:15 – Why Muneeb built Stacks 3:23 – Bitcoin’s durability vs Ethereum’s experimentation 8:19 – Why Bitcoin needs L2s (and Ethereum doesn’t) 10:12 – BTCFi: Unlocking yield without selling 13:04 – $500M in BTC locked for 3% yield 15:08 – The technical breakthrough: trustless self-custody 20:19 – Institutional demand & strategic reserves 25:11 – The new wave of Bitcoin adoption 30:33 – What developers want to build on Bitcoin 34:45 – Why the next DeFi cycle starts with BTC 38:01 – The mission for Stacks 44:10 – Long-term vision: the default Bitcoin adoption layer 47:21 – Final advice: stay humble, survive, and keep re-learning
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The Bitcoin L2 landscape is evolving rapidly and muneeb.btc of stacks.btc is one of the builders at the forefront of it. He shares on Talking Tokens Podcast why Bitcoin needs L2s, the evolution of BTCfi, and what the next wave of bitcoin adoption can look like. TIMESTAMPS: 0:00 – Intro 1:15 – Why Muneeb built Stacks 3:23 – Bitcoin’s durability vs Ethereum’s experimentation 8:19 – Why Bitcoin needs L2s (and Ethereum doesn’t) 10:12 – BTCFi: Unlocking yield without selling 13:04 – $500M in BTC locked for 3% yield 15:08 – The technical breakthrough: trustless self-custody 20:19 – Institutional demand & strategic reserves 25:11 – The new wave of Bitcoin adoption 30:33 – What developers want to build on Bitcoin 34:45 – Why the next DeFi cycle starts with BTC 38:01 – The mission for Stacks 44:10 – Long-term vision: the default Bitcoin adoption layer 47:21 – Final advice: stay humble, survive, and keep re-learning

Jacquelyn Melinek

12,757 views • 1 year ago

E159: Hyperliquid: Housing all of Finance jeff.hl came back on the When Shift Happens Podcast to talk about the Hyperliquid journey since the TGE and what the future holds for one of the most loved and prolific protocols in the space Hyperliquid Timestamps 0:00 Intro 2:01 Singapore 2:27 Reminiscing on the Token Launch 5:00 Was This Scale Of Wealth Expected? 6:28 Doing The Right Thing In Crypto 9:07 The Responsibility that comes with Billions of $ 11:10 Jupiter KAST 11:51 Bringing Hyperliquid to the masses 15:21 Pre TGE and Post TGE: Operational difference 20:13 Choices on what to build Internally vs Externally 22:05 How to build a reliable team 24:51 Did the Team celebrate the HYPE wealth Generation event? 26:45 How to test talents for High Integrity 28:31 How much does the Hyperliquid team sleep? 30:05 Employee Vesting Fears 31:41 Dealing with FUD 32:28 How Does Jeff Personally Handle FUD 35:02 Token "Buybacks" critics 37:20 Why Hyperliquid can't have Discretionary "Buybacks" 39:04 HyperEVM, explained Simply 40:00 Paradex Zodl 40:41 HyperEVM: Success so Far? 44:05 HIP-3, explained Simply 47:44 What makes Hyperliquid's approach different 48:19 Why Should People Care? 51:33 Bring All Finance On Chain 52:08 Why Is The Hyperliquid Approach Better? 53:47 Key Numbers showing that Hyperliquid Is Doing it right 59:01 What Has the Unit team demonstrated with spot trading on Hyperliquid in 2025 1:03:29 HIP-4: Outcome Markets 1:08:01 Trezor Sui 1:08:58 What does "Housing All Of Finance" mean? 1:10:51 Why Hyperliquid is not a crypto company 1:12:23 Why Does Hyperliquid have A Stablecoin USDH (Native Markets) 1:14:39 What Is Kinetiq & Why Does It Matter? 1:16:15 Why Is What HyperLend Is Building Important For HyperLiquid 1:23:39 Where did Fairness cost the most? 1:24:47 What should Hyperliquid be Remembered for? 1:25:24 Why should people stay in Crypto when there's an AI brain drain? 1:28:10 Closing Thoughts
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E159: Hyperliquid: Housing all of Finance jeff.hl came back on the When Shift Happens Podcast to talk about the Hyperliquid journey since the TGE and what the future holds for one of the most loved and prolific protocols in the space Hyperliquid Timestamps 0:00 Intro 2:01 Singapore 2:27 Reminiscing on the Token Launch 5:00 Was This Scale Of Wealth Expected? 6:28 Doing The Right Thing In Crypto 9:07 The Responsibility that comes with Billions of $ 11:10 Jupiter KAST 11:51 Bringing Hyperliquid to the masses 15:21 Pre TGE and Post TGE: Operational difference 20:13 Choices on what to build Internally vs Externally 22:05 How to build a reliable team 24:51 Did the Team celebrate the HYPE wealth Generation event? 26:45 How to test talents for High Integrity 28:31 How much does the Hyperliquid team sleep? 30:05 Employee Vesting Fears 31:41 Dealing with FUD 32:28 How Does Jeff Personally Handle FUD 35:02 Token "Buybacks" critics 37:20 Why Hyperliquid can't have Discretionary "Buybacks" 39:04 HyperEVM, explained Simply 40:00 Paradex Zodl 40:41 HyperEVM: Success so Far? 44:05 HIP-3, explained Simply 47:44 What makes Hyperliquid's approach different 48:19 Why Should People Care? 51:33 Bring All Finance On Chain 52:08 Why Is The Hyperliquid Approach Better? 53:47 Key Numbers showing that Hyperliquid Is Doing it right 59:01 What Has the Unit team demonstrated with spot trading on Hyperliquid in 2025 1:03:29 HIP-4: Outcome Markets 1:08:01 Trezor Sui 1:08:58 What does "Housing All Of Finance" mean? 1:10:51 Why Hyperliquid is not a crypto company 1:12:23 Why Does Hyperliquid have A Stablecoin USDH (Native Markets) 1:14:39 What Is Kinetiq & Why Does It Matter? 1:16:15 Why Is What HyperLend Is Building Important For HyperLiquid 1:23:39 Where did Fairness cost the most? 1:24:47 What should Hyperliquid be Remembered for? 1:25:24 Why should people stay in Crypto when there's an AI brain drain? 1:28:10 Closing Thoughts

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584,416 views • 7 months ago