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Even with Deshaun Watson's perfect second half against the Ravens, some #Browns fans will simply never be satisfied with the quarterback. No matter what he does. People act like it's okay for QBs like Josh Allen (3 turnovers Monday night) or Lamar Jackson (1 completion in the 4th quarter)...

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30Kfootconcepts2 years ago

What I don’t understand is fans acting like they’ve not watched God awful qb play for 30 years… and can’t appreciate an actual Uber talented QB that could win a bunch of games. It’s so weird.

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The Dawgs - A Cleveland Browns Podcast2 years ago

ESPN told everyone he suddenly forgot how to play football and they believe them.

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XP - Agree to Disagree ⏰carter = Barkevious Mingo2 years ago

It was a perfect half passing & scoring we didn’t punt that second half

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The Dawgs - A Cleveland Browns Podcast2 years ago

It's exactly what we've always wished for as Browns fans, and it was awesome to see it for real.

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Dominic Amato2 years ago

Im satisfied. He won the game in a big way

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The Dawgs - A Cleveland Browns Podcast2 years ago

He helped lead the team to a win. He contributed in a big way. We need to stop giving wins and losses solely to the QBs. This is the most team sport there is.

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CG2 years ago

They guy has played one really good half of football which was great to see ! But let’s not pretend like he’s been playing great football up to that point. It’s ok that some people want to see more out of him before they crown him.

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The Dawgs - A Cleveland Browns Podcast2 years ago

“One really good half of football”

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Jermaine Houston2 years ago

People want to talk about his contract but they don’t realize quietly this season he is 5 and 1 as a starter, 8 and 4 overall since he has been a Cleveland Brown. Just like they talk about how bad the passing game is but the running game is top 3 or top 5 in the NFL right now.

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The Dawgs - A Cleveland Browns Podcast2 years ago

Can't credit Watson with the Colts game even though he started, but you're absolutely right. Winning and losing in football is a team thing, but Watson has been a central component to the wins.

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