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Everyone keeps talking about Cybercab being under $30K, but Jeff Lutz 🔋 thinks the more interesting number is what it costs to run over its entire life! Tesla is basically designing this thing to work all day, rack up miles, and stay cheap to maintain. That’s why little details...

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Jason aka “The Bauminater” 📐🚀3 days ago

@thejefflutz Low cost, low maintenance, big money! Win win win

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Mark☠️⚡🪕💙💛3 days ago

@thejefflutz I wonder how these will affect Hertz, Avis etc?

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Eraserhead3 days ago

@thejefflutz The brakes alone are revolutionary. No hydroelectrics, no wires, just electronics. The cybercab is about to completely revolutionize transportation

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Scott Hart3 days ago

@thejefflutz Do you think a 5-year service life is the right planning assumption, or could simpler panels and fewer moving parts push that closer to 10 years?

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Rich Perry 🇺🇸3 days ago

Regarding the $30k CyberCab cost, for now, this number is meaningless because Tesla has already bought and paid for its CyberCabs. We have no information about CyberCab retail availability, prices, or costs. There are too many unknowns. Tesla may decide to bifurcate their market by selling Model Y for retail autonomous fleets and keep CyberCabs wholly within Tesla for their autonomous fleet. Or they could go 180° and wholesale CyberCabs to whoever wants to buy one or more and push maintenance and charging out to individual fleets. In other words, each fleet owner has to build or buy their own charging and maintenance infrastructure. For example Waymo has been building their own maintenance “garages”. Would a CyberCab fleet owner be able to contract maintenance and charging from Waymo?

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Co Builder2 days ago

@thejefflutz $TSLA's goal is to 25-50x the profits per car - from ~$5-10K (onetime) profits per car to $250-$500K per car over ~5-6 years! If they build out the 'robotaxi operating platform' for just the top 10-20 US cities over the next 1-3 years, it's an exponential future for $TSLA.

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Relax_to_Rich3 days ago

@thejefflutz Whole‑life costs are what make fleet profits work. Whether durable design delivers hinges on real‑world long‑term wear.

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Rob Nichols2 days ago

@thejefflutz Owning a fleet might be a better investment than owning the stock.

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Mudrok3 days ago

@thejefflutz @grok if a Cybercab does 250 miles a day. How many years does it take to drive 800 thousand miles ?

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mecredy3 days ago

@thejefflutz Let's just say planned life of the vehicle is 5 years, wouldn't you say Tesla could reserve the right to buy it back and recycle it. That would be pretty old considering iterative improvements and upgrades and refreshes along the way.

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Tesla is a T-Rex2 days ago

@thejefflutz Watching you guys now 🤗

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