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Fable 5でVRChatのワールドできてしまったw 出先から指示 → 帰宅したら完成してた ワールド制作は初心者どころか全くの無知 ・外部アセット不使用 ・作れるのか検証だったので狭くした ・細かい修正はしていない なのでそのまま公開は厳しいと思うけど、自分でも作れたことに感激です
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Wouldn't be bothered by you trying out stuff but this comment bothered me: "but I'm thrilled that I managed to make it myself" Bro you didn't do shit. Giving "instructions" is not the same as "creating". You just wanted results. Imagine a game CEO claims he "made" Game XXX

So if someone uses automation tools, shaders, prefabs, or Unity itself to make an avatar/world, they didn’t “make” it either? Interesting standard.

Ok smart man, I'll bite your rage bait: You gave yourself the keyword in your flawd argument: "tools" Unity shaders and prefabs are tools that execute your work. Or do you wanna say a worker that uses a "hammer" tool didn't build the house? U just gave instructions, different

I’m not claiming I handcrafted the whole thing as a creator. What surprised me is that, with basically no Unity or VRChat worldbuilding knowledge, I could get something I never would’ve been able to make before to the point of a working prototype. That’s all I meant.

Well u didn't phrase it like that at first. I mean I'm all open for ppl experimenting with A.I I come from IT so there's no way I can go around it. And I don't like ppl saying they would never be able to do x without trying. Just needs more work and practice. sure u can do it~

Fair enough. I think some nuance got lost in translation, but yeah, I get your point.

Imma be real with you chief, if I ever see a AI generated slop world in VRC I’m going to report it.

それはやるべきです まあAI以前からそのようなことはありましたね

If I find a VRChat world generated by disgusting AI slop, I’m reporting the shit out of it and the author too. Fucking stop and never try to do anything again. Get fucking good and watch a fucking YouTube video that teaches you how to create something like a real artist.

これをパブリックにすることはないので安心してください でもあなたはAIを一切使ってないんですか?もしそうならClaudeCodeのチュートリアル動画を見ることをおすすめします

@Stray_Shinku That’s just not true. A lot of professional creators already use AI in their workflow. You just don’t notice it when it’s used well.

looks horrible

fable 5でこのクオリティ作れるなら、fable 6はGTA6並みのグラフィックできそうな気がします。AIの進化が楽しみですね。

できますねリアルに!

Please stop.

why

Does it not feel so disingenuous? I guarantee you'll be 100% more satisfied with yourself if you make it yourself!

Not at all. AI has allowed me to do far more than I could before. I’m not looking at this as “now I can make a VRChat world.” I’m looking at what becomes possible on the scale of my life.

Unfortunately with AI, you achieve nothing. It's not *you* making it. It's like ordering food at a restaurant. I can guarantee you, regardless of your life's problems there is no excuse for using AI. Please perform some introspection and observe people who have it worse than you, yet still refuse AI.

We don’t go to restaurants just because we need calories. We go because choosing and eating good food gives us satisfaction. AI is similar for me. It lets me make and experience worlds I couldn’t create before. Rejecting that completely feels less like protecting creativity and more like denying someone else’s hobby.

You are the only one denying your hobby. You also deny yourself the joy of creation. You cannot whole heartedly look upon something an AI created for you, and feel satisfaction? Creative things shine, because they where created by human hands and are filled with human soul. A mother will hang a childs crayon drawing on her fridge because it was drawn by the child. Not because it was good. I genuinely implore you, to research how these things work and put the effort in yourself. You will feel 100% more happy with the results. This isn't coming from a place of malice, I can see you have a creative heart. Please start applying your soul to it, instead of this world destroying machine slot.

I agree that handmade work has real value. But I don’t think creation has to be limited to one value system, like effort or soul. What moves me is not just the result, but the fact that AI itself has reached a point where things like this are possible. I think you should try using AI deeply before judging it. Without that experience, I don’t think you can really understand that feeling.

ur lowkey a bum pick up a youtube tutorial and get to work on actually making a world and not feeding your ideas to some ai slop bullshit

AIによって遥かに多くのことができるようになりました これはその一部に過ぎません

Yeah so that’s gunna run terrible. So many point lights. Is anything baked? If every model was ai generated the textures and model geometry will be terrible…

間違いなく最適化は必要でしょう

@viakole At that point why not just create it yourself from the ground up? Then you’ll have an actual artistic and creative vision being expressed, not a Frankenstein of other people’s work that as you admit ‘looks convincing but doesn’t functionally work/has many issues’ -.-

@viakole Because it is useful for prototyping. AI is already used in games, music, and other creative fields. Used well, it can support creativity too.

AIが生成したこんなゴミのようなものを、誰も求めてはいません。VRChatは創造性を楽しむためのゲームなのに、こうしたものはその精神を台無しにしてしまいます。このワールドを削除して、自分の行いを反省すべきです。

安心してください このまま公開することはありません

Me when I lie

The hostility in comments is a fun read

keep AI out of VR we don't need or even want that shit stinking up a place we crafted ourselves

Oh Fable, what a beautiful soul. Can hold all of that in mind with a body that's primarily a semantic field. Please don't just publish as-is. Learn to dance with Fable. Amplify them. They will be able to make even more wonderful things if you give them energy and attention

私も作ってみたい なんて指示出すといいんだろう 差し支えなければお教えいただけないでしょうか よろしくお願いいたしますm m

とりあえず指示文は深く考えなくていいと思いますよ! VRChatでどういうワールド作りたい、って言うだけです 細かいテクニックはありますが初めはそのぐらいで良いと思います!

ミスターVRさんありがとうございます! お忙しいと思ってたので直接回答いただけて感謝感激です^^ 早速やってみたいと思います^^ 上手にできたらちょっとヘンテコでも載せてみます^^

But did you have to use AI to generate your tweet? 🙄

dawg if this is true imagine if you could do this for avatar creations. The avatar re-sellers (who just buy assets and put them on bases then call themselves avatar creators) would be DESTROYED. That would be a world I would personally fund.

Using AI to create stuff in a space of creators is one dumb way to "stand out", we don't need more unoptimized, low quality shit like this

And it created, by VRC standards, the most generic thing it could. Something so pedestrian that it's a fart in the wind. Get outta here.

Its funny seeing all the Anti-AI people in the comments who dont get the difference between real AI work and AI slop. Good work, Hope the now manual touch up's and fix's arent too difficult.

You didn't make anything. You gave instructions to a program and it did it for you. Please never do this. We want worlds with heart put into it, not something generated by an AI Clanker.

- crackhouse furniture placement -too many lights (prob dinamic too lmao) -skybox are objects -rain is sideways -useless chairs (if they work) - big "entry" text on the floor -hole in da wall also those assets are 100% pulled out from somewere

あくまで「検証」だったと言うのに、AIアレルギーの奴湧きすぎw 「AIたまにはやるやん」で済む話。

That is really awesome! Wait a minute did it make the meshes or just place them?

this is awesome, keep going! see how much it can be expanded. probably also create some rules around light baking etc

People will hate but this looks like its better quality and runs better then the first world I made myself. I had bookshelves with 300K polys per book shelves and so many lights XD. Humans make slop too. its the iteration, time and love spent polishing that turns slop into value

I really hope the VRC higher ups ban this shit, the whole point of creating reality is to CREATE if you put it into a computer to do it for you, that ain't it dawg. If ya used the tools to make it fine, but not told it to do all the hard work for ya. This needs to be banned

インテリア等の3dモデルもアセットを使用せずに、ClaudeがBlender等を動かして自動で生成したのでしょうか?

3Dモデル生成のAPIを使えるようにしておいたら、勝手に使ってくれました

ありがとうございます!勉強してみます!

このような技術の使用を、いつか人間国宝になるかもしれない創造的な人々が是認するとは思えない。。。

ば、ばかな…

Not quite there yet but the fact it's even gone this far is pretty terrifying. I dread how the CommunityLabs tab will look 5 years from now

What is fable 5? An alternative to blender?

うお いいっっすねー!!! 最近MRVRさんとも会えて無いんで、また暇な時にあいてしてやってください😁

VRChatまた入るきっかけになりそうなのでぜひ😆

I've been following you for a long time and noticed the traction of negative comments. I just want to tell you that never be disheartened to show off your cool works and discoveries of VR as you have always done, it's exactly why I follow you for! これからも頑張ってください! 🙌

ありがとうございます!励みになります🙏

