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Groq founder Jonathan Ross explains why their architecture is better for inference than GPUs. Inference doesn't require as much compute power as training. What matters in inference is speed, cost, and energy consumption. $NVDA was going to lose market share as AI workloads shift to inference. They saw this... show more

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