Has anyone else noticed how stupid doctors seem when treating active people? Their endocrinology and kinesiology knowledge goes out the window with healthy lifters. I once had a retired boomer doctor tell me whey and creatine weren’t safe because there’s “no quality control.”

Stupidity or malice, call it.

yeah he's got to be wrong. Every single powdery substance coming out of Bangladesh or wherever is perfectly safe for sure. Keep on taking it!

Whey protein is made from dairy and produced in North America. Creatine is a naturally occurring compound found in meat, and it’s one of the most extensively researched supplements in the world. It’s okay to be wrong,

natural selection will have its effect on you

@grok Please explain to Polly why she’s wrong

@grok

@grok I’m sorry but you can google this yourself

@grok okay I did and it says whey is produced everywhere

People will see that there's a minor amount of lead in protein power which makes one scoop per day a recommended maximum and think "oh but you shouldn't have any lead at all", forgetting that any processed food will have some lead in it no matter the level of quality control.

I find the internet and public access to medicine, medical journals, and data threw a grenade in the knowledge economy. There are a lot of insane people and grifters, but there are also people who utilized that data to maximize their health, vitality, wellness and longevity to never before seek levels. The medical community seems to have yet to adapt to intelligent autodidacts. I’ve never met a doctor who believed muscle wasn’t just machinery instead of an entire metabolically active and protective system.

At first i noticed that doctors over all are just fucking stupid, but after learning how they get incentives and bonuses tor meeting quotas of prescriptions and injections They want you fat and unhealthy

Their jobs are controlled by judges and the Jews in the legal system. White coats only know how to not get sued, while they extract public funds.

I would say so does their nutrition knowledge but they aren’t taught it to begin with. Most of them think the 90s food pyramid is optimal nutrition and it’s better to eat 4 slices of bread than 2 eggs a day

Dr worried about poor quality creatine, prescribes medication made in an Indian factory.

Sone years back I got a minor disc hernia because I was being retarded with barbell squats and tried to "train through it". Had to get a scan (private ofc) went to regular doctor to get a permission slip. That 5'3 250lb woman lectured me on lifting too much weight...

Vegan diets are promoted to keep the population weak both physically and mentally. Your healthcare provider needs repeat business and curing you is bad for business. That brain fog your medicine gives you isn’t a side effect, it’s to keep you from figuring out the scam. Decades and billions of dollars invested into cancer research and the best they got is nuking your entire body with poison, but just enough not to kill you. 😐

My cousin is a physician and he told me they spent “one week” on nutrition.

They're stupid with regard to pretty much anything that should be in their realm of expertise. You'd be better off asking ChatGPT at this point.

The standard for human health is so low that an individual with a resting heartrate of <55 causes alarm for the hospital when we call them. They ask endlessly about it. Meanwhile, I'm on scene with a cardiac specimen who's actual problem is a broken arm from a bike accident.

Vaguely related, Just yesterday had a doctor tell me there’s no anti-inflammatory stronger than prednisone, and that stool consistency/color doesn’t matter… Really wished I knew wth is going on with doctors… why the hell did you guys let them have so much legal control?

I mean he's right that a lot of whey supplements are garbage

They're incentivised to keep you sickly and encourage dependence on chemicals and services only they're licenced to supply.

"You should stop eating meat and replace them with sugary drinks, bread, and starchy foods" - dead serious had a doctor tell me this nonsense.

Creatine is literally one of the most studied compounds in sports nutrition. That doc was working off 1990s broscience 😅

“And what do you do at the gym? Hmmm…. Maybe a little more cardio?”

He’s right lol the amount of industrial byproduct impurities in the average consumer creatine sample is off the charts.

The reason runners are so nutty about their diets and their health is if you fuck up the macros even a little bit every bloodtest screams that you're dying. Either you're in terminal kidney failure or you've got "Runners cock" and they will never tell you the latter exists

To be fair, 90% of the people who go to doctor routinely are fat and lazy and take terrible care of themselves. Seeing a fit person must give them quite a shock

Crazy that you go to so many doctors just to ignore them. Couldn't you save money by not going?

Boomer advice is so bad as to be malicious.

I wont see a doctor twice unless they themselves are fit and healthy. I don't take advice from those who clearly don't believe in it.

But do you use a spotter?

Dumbbells. Don’t need one.

Yep, free weights provide more options.

They also make you stronger in the long run. Barbells don’t work your stabilizers. Dumbbells do. Your maximal load may be higher, but your functional strength is less.

tbh there are heavy metals issues with a lot of big name whey brands, doc isn't entirely wrong there

It’s so annoying having a heart doctor every year it’s “why are you deadlifting why are you doing this” because I want to goddamn

My doctor, who was my friend and went to Harvard, thought I bench-pressed too much. It got in my head, so I cut way back on barbells for. "healthier" exercises. That was retarded.

Their endocrinology knowledge is usually a single page that ends with "consult your pharma rep for guidance". It's insane how supposed health experts are completely clueless or outright dismissive of the mechanisms of disease and health.

He's actually not wrong. Supplements are not regulated. Many whey powders have been found to contain heavy metals. You can literally look it up

I mean not wrong abt the deadlift part lol, stupidest exercise. Super CNS fatigueing for measly hamstring growth, just use machines

the doctor is unironically correct, neither creatine is 'healthy' for you, stop confusing fitness for health

As someone that lifts, the doctors are mostly right. No one needs to be eating 200g of protein and having high cholesterol isn’t fine just cuz you lift. You morons really don’t know shit about health.

lol, rockefeller medicine

Why go to a fucking doctor unless you’re actually sick? It’s all a scam