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Here is the relevant audio from the DCA tower. Starts with controller asking the helicopter (PAT-25) if it has the CRJ in sight, and instructs it to pass behind the plane. Then you hear controllers responding to the collision in the background, then instructions to other planes.

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Brian Bartlettvor 1 Jahr

Here is the Air Traffic control audio of the plane collision at DCA. Can hear controllers responding to the collision at the 17:48 mark:

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Brian Bartlettvor 1 Jahr

Controller asks the helicopter at 17:25 if he has the CRJ in sight. Recording doesn’t pick up the response, but from context seems like he says yes, and controller instructs him to pass behind it.

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Brian Bartlettvor 1 Jahr

I was supposed to take this exact flight from Wichita to DCA this past Sunday. Ended up changing the flight to arrive home earlier. But still an eerie feeling.

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Brian Bartlettvor 1 Jahr

As a pilot, the only scenario I can imagine is that the helo pilots must have thought the controller was talking about a different plane. Like, “oh yeah, I see that one that’s basically landed.” And they didn’t realize he was referring to a different plane further out on final.

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Brian Bartlettvor 1 Jahr

Even if that was the confusion, it’s hard to imagine how you still don’t see a not-so-small jet, with its landing lights all on, coming in straight off your left side. Around an airport environment, with traffic call outs coming from the tower, I’d have my head on a swivel.

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JimDandyvor 1 Jahr

@seanmdav I hear ATC ask PAT25 if he has the CRJ in sight, then almost immediately tells PAT25 to pass behind the CRJ. PAT25 never responded. Correlate this with the video all over the news, and it looks like PAT25 was in front of the CRJ. 28 yrs ATC here btw.

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Maverickvor 1 Jahr

@ScottMGreer DEI air traffic controllers!!!

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obiectusvor 1 Jahr

Did the Blackhawk respond that through CRJ was in sight? I didn't here any response.

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Lew Erskinevor 1 Jahr

Sounded like tower personnel saw it in the background of the controllers response to the (other) AA flight. Woman cries out, “Oh my-.”

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Kinglyvor 1 Jahr

At 12:35 controller asks incoming traffic to change to rwy 33. Pilot says unable. At 13:00 controller asks 5342 to switch to rwy 33. At 13:28 5342 confirms they can take rwy 33...

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Jay Seavor 1 Jahr

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Nitro777vor 1 Jahr

Hearing women in the background explains a bit.

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Here’s the MARINE ONE ATC audio from yesterday. M1 made several calls to NATIONAL TOWER (DCA) on the helicopter specific frequency advising they are 3 minutes from lifting. Tower here’s them briefly on one attempt and say’s they’re broken and unreadable. M1 then lifts getting a better radio line of sight to the tower cab and say’s they’re on the go. Tower comes back confused, saying, “Ok, no 3 minutes, roger” and there ensues confusion from the Tower as they just cleared a Embraer Regional Jet off Runway 01 which the runway basically points towards the Ellipse. M1 calls the traffic insight and decides to pause (smart pilots). While this Envoy Air jet is required to perform a left turn upon departure to avoid the P-56 Prohibited airspace that encompasses the Ellipse. You have a jet accelerating towards the helicopter carrying POTUS in an extremely nervous environment especially since the post DCA crash in 2025. Contributing factors are a relatively new landing zone for M1, DCA tower acknowledging M1 but can’t understand, a busy tower frequency already with several local, federal, and military helicopters already consuming the frequency. Being in tune *pun with VHF airband communications, operating helicopter and trying to call ATC from the ground. Sometimes you can hear ATC and they can hear you and the next minute (especially when you are on the cusp of line of sight comms) It can come down to a variety of factors including atmospheric conditions and just exactly how your antenna is pointed and in some cases this can be a matter of feet or less. The “angle of the dangle” if you will. I don’t know what procedures are in place for M1 communicating with ATC on the ground at the Ellipse besides VHF airband. I can tell you post this incident, I’d have an open telephone line to the tower cab during this whole pickup/dropoff evolution to ensure broken comms are received and understood. And or, I’d have a complete ground stop at DCA while M1 is on the ground. PS. There have been airliners departing DCA in the past and have missed their turn and penetrated the P-56 Prohibited airspace. So while it wasn’t as big of a deal this time, It could potentially be in the future if not addressed. Has something like this in the past happened?… probably but it’s just got now a microscope over the whole area every time these is one slight mix up or mess up. At lease the helipad is getting installed at the WH. Audio via ATC

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