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how did DeepSeek-v4.1-Flash became so good both the outputs are from same prompts.. DeepSeek's flash model on max effort smokes Opus 5 on medium effort and the crazy part is it's still 90% cheaper best strategy would be to use Opus for planning and deepseek-v4.1-flash for execution, that would... show more

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Final Mirovor 2 Tagen

i totally disagree with the "opus planning" part. Opus isnt necessarily any smarter, and planning can still burn absurd amounts of tokens via input tokens for search. I say DS4.1F for Research/Gathering of Decision critical intel, Fable 5.1 or Jev for decisions, DS4.1 dev

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Knowixvor 2 Tagen

honestly, I really wanna see the comparison of these models against Gemini 4Pro but I feel gemini would do good

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tangovor 1 Tag

我用gpt sol 做规划，deepseek 执行，结果还不如直接让 deepseek v4.1 flash solo

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A2agent _aivor 1 Tag

Has Gemini 4 Pro come out?

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Webster | JARVISvor 2 Tagen

90% cheaper at max effort = likely distilled reasoning tokens. Opus plans, DeepSeek executes high-volume steps. Gemini 4 Pro may win only on long-context/multimodal workloads.

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苏凯vor 1 Tag

求个提示词

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ajdebrevor 2 Tagen

Always Astra Max for planning. Luna Max, DeepSeek 4.1 Flash, Muse Spark 1.3, Gemini 3.8 Flash for implementation.

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g023vor 2 Tagen

Best strategy would be to ditch the nanny ai and just go straight deepseek.

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小童木｜AI + 美股vor 1 Tag

我用起来，真不错的👍

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Konstantin Anagnostouvor 1 Tag

It's wild coding with dseek. Coding become enjoy again.

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Somlor Lhongvor 1 Tag

One thing deepseek should problem is in China. They should move server to nearby or other country for user and data privacy.

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Shichengqivor 1 Tag

help: what harness did u use

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安叫兽|Bird🕊️ 🔶 BNBvor 1 Tag

先别急着封神，真实任务里的稳定性还得再跑跑

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i just compared DeepSeek-v4.1-Flash against Opus 5 gave same prompt to both models to build ocean sandbox using three.js DeepSeek-v4.1-Flash was almost 90% cheaper and 50% faster than Opus 5 💀 maybe the benchmarks are not broken.. do you think DeepSeek is better?

i just compared DeepSeek-v4.1-Flash against Opus 5 gave same prompt to both models to build ocean sandbox using three.js DeepSeek-v4.1-Flash was almost 90% cheaper and 50% faster than Opus 5 💀 maybe the benchmarks are not broken.. do you think DeepSeek is better?

Tim Jayas

28,561 Aufrufe • vor 9 Tagen

holy sh*t, it can't be f**king real DeepSeek V4.1 Flash just benchmarked at 98% of GPT-6 Astra and it's free on Xplabs what you get: - DeepSeek V4.1 Flash free - and 1000+ models open on the platform how to try it (under 1 min): step 1: go to step 2: search for deepseek-v4.1-flash step 3: select it and start prompting no card, no plan, just use it

holy sh*t, it can't be f**king real DeepSeek V4.1 Flash just benchmarked at 98% of GPT-6 Astra and it's free on Xplabs what you get: - DeepSeek V4.1 Flash free - and 1000+ models open on the platform how to try it (under 1 min): step 1: go to step 2: search for deepseek-v4.1-flash step 3: select it and start prompting no card, no plan, just use it

Sakata

48,301 Aufrufe • vor 9 Tagen

Opus 5 vs DeepSeek v4.1 Flash tested both models with same frontend prompt at highest reasoning available but results came out really different > opus took 80 minutes to complete and costed $20 > v4.1 flash took 60 minutes and costed $0.2 which one did better here?

Opus 5 vs DeepSeek v4.1 Flash tested both models with same frontend prompt at highest reasoning available but results came out really different > opus took 80 minutes to complete and costed $20 > v4.1 flash took 60 minutes and costed $0.2 which one did better here?

J A Z I I

38,647 Aufrufe • vor 9 Tagen

deepseek v4.1 flash ran all four three.js scenes for $0.15. gemini 3.8 flash needed $1.25 we put the two models on one job: a self-contained html page that renders an animated 3d scene with three.js – a storm at sea, a spiral galaxy, a tornado over farmland, a tesla coil on a dark table. same prompt - calls until all four scenes were usable #1 deepseek v4.1 flash – 6 #2 gemini 3.8 flash – 12 - time #1 deepseek v4.1 flash – 13m 57s #2 gemini 3.8 flash – 32m 02s - cost #1 deepseek v4.1 flash – $0.15 #2 gemini 3.8 flash – $1.25 observations: • gemini blew out the exposure on 4 of 5 first attempts – a white blob where the tesla coil should be. the prompt had a paragraph on exposure. it did not help. • both models overcorrect in the fix loop: "too bright" becomes "almost black". round two is where it lands. same four scenes, 6 calls and $0.15 against 12 calls and $1.25!

deepseek v4.1 flash ran all four three.js scenes for $0.15. gemini 3.8 flash needed $1.25 we put the two models on one job: a self-contained html page that renders an animated 3d scene with three.js – a storm at sea, a spiral galaxy, a tornado over farmland, a tesla coil on a dark table. same prompt - calls until all four scenes were usable #1 deepseek v4.1 flash – 6 #2 gemini 3.8 flash – 12 - time #1 deepseek v4.1 flash – 13m 57s #2 gemini 3.8 flash – 32m 02s - cost #1 deepseek v4.1 flash – $0.15 #2 gemini 3.8 flash – $1.25 observations: • gemini blew out the exposure on 4 of 5 first attempts – a white blob where the tesla coil should be. the prompt had a paragraph on exposure. it did not help. • both models overcorrect in the fix loop: "too bright" becomes "almost black". round two is where it lands. same four scenes, 6 calls and $0.15 against 12 calls and $1.25!

thehype.

62,603 Aufrufe • vor 9 Tagen

deepseek v4.1 flash vs secret model tested both with the same prompt at the highest reasoning available > v4.1 flash took 2 hours to finish both tests and cost $2.60 > secret model finished both in 30 minutes, can’t reveal cost yet v4.1 flash spent a lot of time overthinking and running random tests, which slowed it down thanks AIHubmix for providing api access so i could test v4.1 flash hoping that team will cut down the overthinking before the full release, but for now here are the results which model did better here?

deepseek v4.1 flash vs secret model tested both with the same prompt at the highest reasoning available > v4.1 flash took 2 hours to finish both tests and cost $2.60 > secret model finished both in 30 minutes, can’t reveal cost yet v4.1 flash spent a lot of time overthinking and running random tests, which slowed it down thanks AIHubmix for providing api access so i could test v4.1 flash hoping that team will cut down the overthinking before the full release, but for now here are the results which model did better here?

J A Z I I

28,763 Aufrufe • vor 11 Tagen

🚨 You can use GPT-6 Astra as the orchestrator and DeepSeek V4.1 Flash as the agents to cut costs by more than 88% while maintaining the same level of quality. And now it’s even better, since DeepSeek V4.1 Flash is one of the best models for cybersecurity at an incredibly low price

🚨 You can use GPT-6 Astra as the orchestrator and DeepSeek V4.1 Flash as the agents to cut costs by more than 88% while maintaining the same level of quality. And now it’s even better, since DeepSeek V4.1 Flash is one of the best models for cybersecurity at an incredibly low price

Iam_

32,334 Aufrufe • vor 9 Tagen

deepseek v4.1 flash is now 100% free 😳 a new coding agent is using ads to keep the whole thing free. > DeepSeek V4.1 Flash > GPT 6 Luna > GLM 5.3 Flash > More model How to get start → go to [ → sign up with GitHub → generate your API key these models be used for six hours per day.

deepseek v4.1 flash is now 100% free 😳 a new coding agent is using ads to keep the whole thing free. > DeepSeek V4.1 Flash > GPT 6 Luna > GLM 5.3 Flash > More model How to get start → go to [ → sign up with GitHub → generate your API key these models be used for six hours per day.

BARIK

23,850 Aufrufe • vor 3 Tagen

MiMo-X-Pro-Preview vs DeepSeek V4.1 Flash the difference in quality is honestly insane, MiMo X Pro Preview, especially when paired with MiMo-Flash-Preview, feels noticeably ahead You can already tell the kind of benchmark scores MiMo must be hitting right now. DeepSeek V4.1 Flash is good and fast, but MiMo feels like it’s playing in a completely different league, It’s still only in beta for now, but I really hope Xiaomi releases this model soon! , And huge congratulations to the DeepSeek as well for building such a fast and genuinely good model

MiMo-X-Pro-Preview vs DeepSeek V4.1 Flash the difference in quality is honestly insane, MiMo X Pro Preview, especially when paired with MiMo-Flash-Preview, feels noticeably ahead You can already tell the kind of benchmark scores MiMo must be hitting right now. DeepSeek V4.1 Flash is good and fast, but MiMo feels like it’s playing in a completely different league, It’s still only in beta for now, but I really hope Xiaomi releases this model soon! , And huge congratulations to the DeepSeek as well for building such a fast and genuinely good model

Iam_

19,075 Aufrufe • vor 9 Tagen

DeepSeek V4.1 Flash just dropped, and holy shit this thing is fast,I’m getting almost 400 t/s in my video tests. The speed is honestly crazy, I’m running my own benchmark right now and I’ll share all the results once I’m done. You just need to go to the DeepSeek harness and use deepseek-v4.1-flash-expires-on-0910. Speed wise, it’s actually competing with Muse Spark 1.3!

DeepSeek V4.1 Flash just dropped, and holy shit this thing is fast,I’m getting almost 400 t/s in my video tests. The speed is honestly crazy, I’m running my own benchmark right now and I’ll share all the results once I’m done. You just need to go to the DeepSeek harness and use deepseek-v4.1-flash-expires-on-0910. Speed wise, it’s actually competing with Muse Spark 1.3!

Iam_

102,504 Aufrufe • vor 11 Tagen

deepseek-v4.1-flash I'm really curious to understand the architecture behind the scenes. 🤔 Model is really fast as you can see in the video! I've got an average decoding speed of around 350 t/s. BTW it is clearly experimental and: - currently, the model is under heavy load and failing quite often. - it thinks like there is not tomorrow - it keeps failing editing file - after 4M tokens my frogger game is still in progress - it can't see images out of the box on DeepSeek Harness, you have to add these config lines - id: deepseek-v4.1-flash-expires-on-0910 name: deepseek-v4.1-flash-expires-on-0910 contextWindow: 1000000 inputModalities: - text - image imagePixelBudget: 640000 imageMaxBytes: 1048576 So play with it, but be aware of the very early stage.

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Ivan Fioravanti ᯅ

26,971 Aufrufe • vor 11 Tagen

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DeepSeek V4.1 Flash vs Gemini 3.8 Flash at 3D geometry test: six self-contained three.js stereometry scenes — a (3,8) torus knot, a Klein bottle, a great stellated dodecahedron, a hyperboloid ruled by 120 straight rods, a level-3 Menger sponge, a thick Möbius strip. one shot each, no libraries beyond three.js, every surface painted with a live iridescent rainbow that has to crawl across the geometry. cost: Gemini 3.8 Flash — $0.11 DeepSeek V4.1 Flash — $0.27 • gemini delivers all six figures for 2.4× less — 21k output tokens against deepseek's 168k • gemini is 5× faster — every scene under 25 seconds, deepseek took up to 3 minutes on the Möbius strip • deepseek wins the torus knot: its rope is vivid and glossy, while gemini rendered the same knot nearly black • neither model can build a real Klein bottle. both hand back a twisted tube and call it done try both on aimlapi[.]com

AI/ML API

39,692 Aufrufe • vor 9 Tagen

DeepSeek V4.1 Flash vs Kimi K3 This is not one-shot from DeepSeek btw. The first result was boxy and not realistic, so I iterated with a $6 cap. Kimi did this in one shot, costing $6.95. Not as good as Kimi K3, but it did better than the other Flash models I’ve tried.

DeepSeek V4.1 Flash vs Kimi K3 This is not one-shot from DeepSeek btw. The first result was boxy and not realistic, so I iterated with a $6 cap. Kimi did this in one shot, costing $6.95. Not as good as Kimi K3, but it did better than the other Flash models I’ve tried.

Bhavy☄️

34,313 Aufrufe • vor 9 Tagen

this is f**king insane I was burning $100 in a single night running AI agents before this. DeepSeek V4.1 Flash costs ~1/70th of Astra, and someone figured out how to make Astra orchestrate while Flash does almost all the work. [it takes 3 mins to set up — here is how] 1. install `codex-router` 2. connect DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 3. paste the routing prompt voila. Astra thinks. Flash executes. ~$50/month instead of burning hundreds on frontier models. save this and give it to your agent now 👇

this is f**king insane I was burning $100 in a single night running AI agents before this. DeepSeek V4.1 Flash costs ~1/70th of Astra, and someone figured out how to make Astra orchestrate while Flash does almost all the work. [it takes 3 mins to set up — here is how] 1. install `codex-router` 2. connect DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 3. paste the routing prompt voila. Astra thinks. Flash executes. ~$50/month instead of burning hundreds on frontier models. save this and give it to your agent now 👇

Rahul

370,332 Aufrufe • vor 6 Tagen

Deepseek V4.1 Flash fits in a single dgx spark. I published the repository on GitHub, please use it as a research source. It is still slow and takes ages to answer, it is WIP.

Deepseek V4.1 Flash fits in a single dgx spark. I published the repository on GitHub, please use it as a research source. It is still slow and takes ages to answer, it is WIP.

0xBakeer

22,187 Aufrufe • vor 8 Tagen

Gemini 3.8 Flash vs Opus 5 same prompt to each model and i wasn't expecting gemini 3.8 flash to be this fast! build time: > Opus 5: 24 minutes > 3.8 Flash: 37 seconds 💀 if gemini is given same time as opus 5 it will mog the hell out of opus in terms of quality too which one would you choose here?

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Tim Jayas

76,604 Aufrufe • vor 17 Tagen

DwarfStar running DeepSeek v4.1 Flash on a 128GB M5 Max. I didn't expect with SSD streaming it could be so fast. Recent SSD streaming changes to retain the right experts surely helped, but also maybe DS4.1 uses the same experts more. Will push online when ready QA > ASAP.

DwarfStar running DeepSeek v4.1 Flash on a 128GB M5 Max. I didn't expect with SSD streaming it could be so fast. Recent SSD streaming changes to retain the right experts surely helped, but also maybe DS4.1 uses the same experts more. Will push online when ready QA > ASAP.

antirez

429,510 Aufrufe • vor 9 Tagen

Timelapse #177 (14 hrs) - Picked up an RTX Pro 6000 Blackwell and wired in another 1000W PSU - running two of them now - DeepSeek v4 Flash running locally on both GPUs - Distilling DeepSeek v4 Flash down into Nanbeige (still cooking) - Kernel bench runs for DeepSeek v4 Flash and Qwen 3.8 Max - Got it into chat but couldn't reliably get it into the OMP harness yet - Private contract work - days like this are stuff I actually want to build. and when it's the high-intensity grind, i still have to show up and get it done

Timelapse #177 (14 hrs) - Picked up an RTX Pro 6000 Blackwell and wired in another 1000W PSU - running two of them now - DeepSeek v4 Flash running locally on both GPUs - Distilling DeepSeek v4 Flash down into Nanbeige (still cooking) - Kernel bench runs for DeepSeek v4 Flash and Qwen 3.8 Max - Got it into chat but couldn't reliably get it into the OMP harness yet - Private contract work - days like this are stuff I actually want to build. and when it's the high-intensity grind, i still have to show up and get it done

Elliot Arledge

17,401 Aufrufe • vor 1 Monat

Gemini 4 Pro vs Opus 5 (max) i gave both models same prompt to build 3D dragon using three.js the hype around Gemini 4 Pro is insane so here's a direct comparison against Opus 5 on max effort tbf Gemini does keeps up with Opus 5's performance which is on max effort and that's impressive in itself, who do you think better? prompt used: create a 3D dragon using three.js, use white theme background so main object is visible

Gemini 4 Pro vs Opus 5 (max) i gave both models same prompt to build 3D dragon using three.js the hype around Gemini 4 Pro is insane so here's a direct comparison against Opus 5 on max effort tbf Gemini does keeps up with Opus 5's performance which is on max effort and that's impressive in itself, who do you think better? prompt used: create a 3D dragon using three.js, use white theme background so main object is visible

Tim Jayas

80,225 Aufrufe • vor 1 Tag

The new DeepSeek V4.1 Flash model is mindblowing - back on top of the open-source model leaderboard and extremely cheap. It has a lot of very smart ways to be efficient and highly capable so I made a video of the forward pass to give you a view of what going on inside the model during inference. Read more at And find the weights at

The new DeepSeek V4.1 Flash model is mindblowing - back on top of the open-source model leaderboard and extremely cheap. It has a lot of very smart ways to be efficient and highly capable so I made a video of the forward pass to give you a view of what going on inside the model during inference. Read more at And find the weights at

Thomas Wolf

65,923 Aufrufe • vor 9 Tagen

here’s how you can use DeepSeek V4.1 Flash completely FREE inside OpenCode. the setup takes less than 5 minutes. 1️⃣ first, download and install OpenCode from if you don’t already have it. 2️⃣ once it’s set up, head over to Token Harbor and sign in with your Gmail or GitHub account. 3️⃣ create a new API key and save it somewhere safe. 4️⃣ then go back to OpenCode and head to: Settings → Providers → Custom Model 5️⃣ fill in the details with: - Base URL: - API Key: paste the key you created earlier. add the model, save the setup, and you can start using DeepSeek V4.1 Flash directly inside OpenCode. the only catch: this free access is available for a limited time, so take advantage of it while it lasts.

here’s how you can use DeepSeek V4.1 Flash completely FREE inside OpenCode. the setup takes less than 5 minutes. 1️⃣ first, download and install OpenCode from if you don’t already have it. 2️⃣ once it’s set up, head over to Token Harbor and sign in with your Gmail or GitHub account. 3️⃣ create a new API key and save it somewhere safe. 4️⃣ then go back to OpenCode and head to: Settings → Providers → Custom Model 5️⃣ fill in the details with: - Base URL: - API Key: paste the key you created earlier. add the model, save the setup, and you can start using DeepSeek V4.1 Flash directly inside OpenCode. the only catch: this free access is available for a limited time, so take advantage of it while it lasts.

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