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I gave Jev $10,000 and let it trade

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kolowski11 days ago

Jev + Money = Jevv?

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Abol11 days ago

😂

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Utkarsh Agrawal11 days ago

most of the time LLMs fall prey to forward bias you should test in a live env even with only a small amount of money and small position size almost 90% of the time if you give full reign to the LLMs to trade on historical data it will always show profitable due to these kind of biases

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Abol11 days ago

yeah that’s a good point. live testing with small positions is definitely next, historical replay is mostly just to test the decision loop first.

Utkarsh Agrawal's profile picture
Utkarsh Agrawal11 days ago

Yeah Would love to see the results of live testing

Abol's profile picture
Abol11 days ago

btw i tried to explain in simple words how jev works:

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OPitA11 days ago

You didn't spend $10k why do you lie.

Abol's profile picture
Abol11 days ago

is simulation

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Edward Tadros11 days ago

@opita04 Oh no….expect a petulant reader or some stupid bot to CN this. It’s very tiring.

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OPitA11 days ago

@abolbuild Why not say things as they are, not petulant, just want more truth in social sites. Tired of clicking on clickbait.

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Mateusz Kardaś11 days ago

Plenty of folks will do the same. Try inverse jev instead

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Abol11 days ago

haha inverse Jev could actually be a fun test too

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pOfka11 days ago

No you didn't :) click bait, what you have is to claude to build this for video :D

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Abol11 days ago

ok

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Wayne Nilsen11 days ago

What's the alpha? How long have you run? How does it do bet sizing?

Abol's profile picture
Abol11 days ago

It’s just ~21h of historical replay, not live trading yet Right now it basically goes full size based on which side has the higher probability, so better sizing is probably the next thing to improve Mostly just testing the decision loop here, not calling it a strategy yet

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Wayne Nilsen11 days ago

Yeah, that's very cool. There's a lot written about when you have a trading signal what to do with it. So that includes things like how confident your signal is be sizing and direction and existing portfolio. Merging signals has a lot of literature as well.

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Abol11 days ago

yeah exactly next i want to improve sizing and also add news. I think Jev can help make the probabilities better with real-time events.

Wayne Nilsen's profile picture
Wayne Nilsen11 days ago

Sentiment analysis on News is a very crowded trade and one that is very old. Not to say that there is an opportunity here but it's very well trodden ground. See RavenPack

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Abol11 days ago

fair point my thought is more that Jev could use the news together with market data to make better trading decisions, not just do sentiment analysis

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James Camarota11 days ago

This is the perfect model for it

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Dan11 days ago

El problema son las comisiones, si no fuera por las comisiones podría llegar a funcionar apoyado con otros modelos

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Yoav Shkedy11 days ago

Jev is not where the edge is

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UN©️ENSORED 𝕏Men11 days ago

It’s just simulation!

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Abol11 days ago

Yes You can, with the help of Binance's public API, snapshot the data and test on it and improve

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Robin | Poker x AI11 days ago

Interesting baseline, but without dynamic bet sizing the EV will be volatile, a modest position could reveal true edge

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Abol11 days ago

yeah. smaller positions should make it easier to see if there’s actually an edge

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soup 🍜11 days ago

continuously trading stocks every second is how you lose, actually

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Abol11 days ago

yeah, every second would probably just be trading noise 😂 the idea is to let it decide when there’s actually enough signal to act

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Vlad Oreshkov11 days ago

THIS IS INSANE. We’re so close to achieving human reasoning in these models, it’s insane how much potential good we have for the future!!!

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RokoTheG11 days ago

Have a feeling the smaller timeframe it will do better...

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Abol11 days ago

yeah could be🤔

𝗺𝗮𝗹𝗶𝗽𝗲𝘁𝗲𝗸 🇹🇷🇵🇸 goyim in abundance's profile picture
𝗺𝗮𝗹𝗶𝗽𝗲𝘁𝗲𝗸 🇹🇷🇵🇸 goyim in abundance11 days ago

Performing similar to math random lol, but to be fair forex exchange markets are not data driven nowadays

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Abol11 days ago

fair that’s why i’m more interested in testing it with more context like news + market data and seeing if it can be better over time

𝗺𝗮𝗹𝗶𝗽𝗲𝘁𝗲𝗸 🇹🇷🇵🇸 goyim in abundance's profile picture
𝗺𝗮𝗹𝗶𝗽𝗲𝘁𝗲𝗸 🇹🇷🇵🇸 goyim in abundance11 days ago

right, connecting the right data sources are like half of the solution here

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Artemonim11 days ago

Can I start with him from 10$?

Abol's profile picture
Abol11 days ago

not yet, it’s still just a simulation setup for now

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Justin11 days ago

trade: 1. Already showing one at the beginning of the video. What are we supposed to see?

Abol's profile picture
Abol11 days ago

the point was more to show how Jev is making the decisions, not just the trade count.

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monerify11 days ago

losing money now

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Médéric11 days ago

Is that $10,000 of real money traded on an exchange, or a simulated portfolio? The playback controls suggest a replay, but “I gave Jev $10,000” reads like live trading. Can you share exchange fills if it’s real, or explain how you kept future price data out of Jev’s inputs if it’s a backtest?

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Best of X11 days ago

looks pretty random to me...

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Core11 days ago

Can i bet on this?

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Anne Markis Graham11 days ago

If anyone does this for real, just be prepared to get a bombastic side eye from your accountant

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Jiri Pivrnec11 days ago

I belive the most important thing is what data you are feeding into Jev and what outputs you have (type and question referencing the data). Raw price is probably not enough for the classification. Do you plan to open source the code or share it?

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Peter Taras11 days ago

May I ask what your input schema looks like in such a scenario? Could you share an example?

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Re Tard11 days ago

then everyone uses JEV who win? lol morons

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B11 days ago

🥹🥹🥹

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TheNerdwork11 days ago

@RanYEET

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ChillTA🪙11 days ago

Good let's see you make your first 1 Million and report back the progress here

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Nikola Tesla11 days ago

It seems like you forget to tell buy low sell high

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Louis Angeli11 days ago

How did you hook this UP?

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Shepherdess11 days ago

At last i can lose money FASTER

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