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“In almost twenty years practicing as a criminal defense attorney, I cannot imagine having exculpatory evidence and NOT bringing it up at the probable cause hearing.” Criminal defense attorney confirms the obvious—that if Tyler’s parents have been misreported as believing he’s guilty and urging him to turn himself in,...

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It's interesting listening to Baron Coleman' here. He reads over Andrea Burkhart 🐟🐟🐟🐟🏴‍☠️'s analysis of the Defense team's latest filing, calls her "everybody's favorite fed-slopper" (gotta give your audience the cues as to how to disregard someone without addressing the substance of what they say) but then ultimately concludes that he agrees with her analysis. I guess that makes him a "fed-slopper by proxy". lol But not before doing his own gish-gallop of "slop". 1) "There's no basis for them to argue that evidence is unreliable or fabricated because they didn't elicit any facts in the hearing to suggest it was" (from Andrea's analysis). "Yeah, because they're not allowed to at that stage." -Baron. I don't think Baron understand what Andrea is saying here. My understanding is that Baron's statement is simply false. Thought the evidence is not fully litigated (because it's a preliminary hearing and not a trial - a distinction Baron has difficulty keeping in mind), eliciting facts of unreliability or fabrication can most certainly be done at the prelim hearing. And you would want to do it to challenge probable cause. Defense did not do it, so they could not argue it in the filing. Baron must know that his statement is false / misleading, because when I asked him why the Defense did not call the parents to prove that Tyler did not confess to them (another assertion Baron made), his answer was not "because they couldn't". His answer was the preposterous "they didn't call the parents because the parents would have been asked by the prosecution if Tyler had confessed to other crimes", which Baron "assumed" would be yes. Outlandish. But not predicated on Defense not being allowed to make that evidence at the prelim stage. 2) "They don't have the evidence in their possession... They could not raise these issues at trial [sic] because they did not have the evidence". -Baron "They don't have the gun in their possession". This is almost always true in any prosecution. From what I understand, prosecution does not give the alleged murder weapon to the defense. Defense gets photos, ballistic reports, etc., which from what I understand, they did receive. "They don't have the DNA reports in their possession" Also false. They did have the reports in their possession. They cross-examined on it during the prelim. "They don't have all the camera footage in their possession". Fairly certain this is materially false as well. But not knowing what "all" consists of, they certainly had substantial amounts of surveillance video. "They don't have the cell-phone authentification stuff in their possession... what the hell do you expect them to introduce at trial [sic]". I am not certain enough on this to assert one way or the other, and it's not clear what meta-data on the text messages the defense did received prior to the preliminary hearing to verify authenticity. But if they had reason to believe the text messages were fabricated, one would think they would have challenged that at the prelim because if true, it would certainly impact probable cause (to put it mildly). "How can I introduce evidence I don't have". Again, totally false oversimplification, thought it must be noted that we are still at the preliminary hearing stage, which is not a full evidentiary hearing. That's my input. Subject to any mistakes which, if I make, I will certainly correct. I think I included the requisite qualifiers in my reading of the brief. Now, we will see how things pan out in order to retrospectively assess the quality of everyone's analysis.

Viva Frei

21,970 views • 1 month ago

‼️BUSTED: The State Got Caught SNEAKING-IN New Evidence During Closing Arguments In Yesterday's Tyler Robinson Hearing — The Defense IMMEDIATELY Called Them Out 👀 The state got five days to put on a case. When that was over, the record was closed. Yesterday the state got caught trying to insert new evidence regarding safety standards from a Provo shooting range that were not previously added as evidence. In their reply brief and again at the podium they started citing things that were never admitted — including safety standards from a Provo shooting range that was not in evidence at the preliminary hearing. The defense immediately called them out for this. That is not argument. That is a backdoor evidence dump. Counsel was blunt. The state had every chance to put on guns, gun-safety specifics, physics, and probabilities. It did not. It does not get another bite at the apple through a brief or a closing. A judge deciding probable cause is supposed to weigh only what was actually placed into the record in court, not what a prosecutor wishes he had proved after the fact. Argument is not testimony. A citation in a reply is not an exhibit. They asked the court to stay inside the record. That is the whole point of holding a 5 day long evidentiary process. If the official story needed range rules and extra science, those belonged in July with a witness under oath — not in September as a sneak. RT and watch the FULL hearing linked below.

Project Constitution

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🤔Baron Coleman keeps asking about the prosecution not calling the parents as hiding the ball. In reality it’s the OPPOSITE. That is NOT the hole. The glaring hole is the defense never called them either. If those family texts his buddy waves around were real & if the parents were ready to say Tyler never confessed I assure you they would’ve been on THAT STAND. They weren’t. The texts are from the same guy who claimed Tyler was in Panguitch when the Dairy Queen photo proves he couldn’t have been there for his steak dinner after eating at DQ at 6:38 MINIMUM. Those texts are also from a supposed “close family member”. If they were real the defense likely would have authenticated them and it would have been EVIDENCE. So is the defense in on all of this also? The official document record already has the parents telling police that TESTIFIED that Tyler called UVU a “stupid venue,” IMPLIED he was the shooter and when asked why, said there was “too much evil” and Charlie “spreads too much hate.” That’s locked in through the officers at the prelim. Probable cause only requires that. If Robinson’s parents were ready to help Tyler…. they would’ve used them. Because putting them on the stand opens them up to the state impeaching them with their own recorded statements to the officers. The defense didn’t want that fight. Just like they wanted to block most evidence. That’s the part that actually matters. The defense DID however want to remind the court he came peacefully. So why is he framing it to Julian Dorey about the prosecution not putting the parents on the stand as them “hiding the ball”? The defense had the exact same chance to put the parents up or authenticate those family texts and didn’t either. That’s the actual silence that stands out to me. Just like neither parent went screaming to cameras MY SON IS A PATSY. Spare me the threatened red herring. No mom is more afraid for their own life than their child. Maybe … just MAYBE… the family wants to give their kids the best opportunity to avoid the death penalty? You know… their son who wore the TRANS COLORED TIE at his first hearing. That’s just a coincidence also I guess. He was a brainwashed true believer for the leftist cause… that’s for sure.

Johnny St.Pete

62,523 views • 1 month ago