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In her first wide-ranging interview since leaving OpenAI, Mira Murati shared more than ever before about what she’s building at her AGI startup, Thinking Machines lab. The former OpenAI CTO laid out her vision for a future where humans and AI work together more closely -- “like a tandem...

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