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In our latest episode, host Robert Hackett (Robert Hackett) sits down with Bryan Pellegrino (Bryan Pellegrino (臭企鹅)), cofounder and CEO of LayerZero, one of the core infrastructure projects that enables blockchains to talk to one another. We talk about why crypto went multichain, what it means for crypto to...

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