It's also just not the setting for that. Openworld is either: An above-average person facing equally scaled threats. (Horizon, GTA/Red Dead, Ghost of Tsushima, Cyberpunk) Basically a demigod character fighting extreme threats. (Spiderman, Infamous, Elden Ring etc.) Starcraft is almost exclusively regular dudes fighting insane things. Why it's an... RTS game lol. What will the gameplay be? 20 of your Marine friends getting hatefucked by an Ultralisk in a field? The trailer itself depicts this ironically. The scale of the setting does not lend itself to this. There is no street-level stuff going on like in 40k or something.show more

Also yearly reminder that the Heart of the Swarm trailer has so much sauce.

Like yeah, V from Cyberpunk is wildly overpowered in their space and fun to play. Put V against an air force, and they just die. You don't do that. You have to scale it down or up. So an open-world StarCraft has to either sand down the scale and power levels, or give you some superhero dude to bring it up. Which I'm almost positive they'll do the former, and I will find it very lame.

I feel like you’d play a hero character similar to Rayner or Tychus doing random shit but I agree there are SO MANY bad routes blizzard could take on this. The only thing I could see working is like some random planet fighting off the Zerg with maybe the Protoss help? But they would have to do A LOT to make an open world work. From space combat to getting the insane size difference right. If anything they could have pulled off a hell divers esc game type or something better than an open world fps game. But if they can make it fun and write a good story it wouldn’t be the worse thing in the world just one of those odd spinoffs ppl talk about 20 years later

Yeah there is like 15 different ways to make a cool Starcraft shooter and none of them have the words "Open World" in them.

not wrong

Saw someone suggest it'll be a Helldivers clone, and I gotta admit, that's something that sounds extremely plausible for modern Blizzard to do

But that's just the thing. Say it is, or a Space Marine clone, or what Ghost was going to be, I wouldn't even be mad. But the giant, glowing, pulsating word in this that is not in any of those games is "Open World" What the fuck is that lol

c&c renegade isn't open world but it handled the basic unit getting destroyed by much stonger enemies by letting you continuously respawn although this isnt a unique game mechanic but i like to bring up renegade whenever i can.

What a deep cut there.

I'm gonna guess they make you play as a special ghost character like they wanted to with Kerrigan many years ago. Would fill the niche they're looking for and be somewhat lore accurate. Still very odd choice and has terrible odds of working.

Even then, Ghost worked because it was a closed in linear 3rd person shooter. Drop Nova in an open world and wtf do you have? Sniper Elite with aliens? What enemies from the game can you add? Most the fliers are out, anything bigger than a Hydralisk and it starts getting a little silly.

That's the big problem. It'll be monster hunter if it's anything like that, except no cute animals to cook you meals. If they try to include p much any zerg or protoss, it'll just feel comical. Unless they do some shit about humans rebelling the Confederacy.

Which if that was the angle, fine, but the trailer is all Zerg lol

I never trust trailers anymore. Yall know they try to show you the cool shit they don't even have yet.

How in the heck do you handled power scaling in that setting?? Like you start as a marine and kill like 2 zerglings before getting face munched? Maybe you can board a Vulture to get some speed or climb in a Goliath? Maybe you promote from Wraith pilot to Ship Captain?

I have no idea, and I no longer view Blizzard as the company that could pull off blowing my expectations out of the water.

I really can't see it working unless you have guilds of 200 or so to simulate the population cap of SC or SCII. And then every run is basically a dungeon raid. Maybe they have characters who play SCVs to mine! LOL

while they set it in the far future to get away from being boxed in, i feel like they really missed an opportunity not having the UED or Confederacy around

It being the Dominion boxes them in more lol. Less human factions running around and civil wars. Being set during the first game would be better.

My fear is that it will end up divisionified with that ultralisk boss so scary until you get a level 5 rifle and cakewalk it. When what they really should have done was make a shooter of the brood war intro.

It's gonna be helldivers. That's the goal.

Helldivers is an open world, it's just a decent size map, unless that's what they mean by open world then that's stupid.

StarCraft from day 1 had hero units like Kerrigan Raynor Fenix (multiple times) and Duke.

If you look at it in terms of what a marine sees an average StarCraft map is actually an Open world shooter for them Especially with campaign maps with how much goes on the base for a shooter has been right under is the whole time Also SC2 arcade has some wild FPS games lol

Microsoft wanted helldivers, after they fumbled possibilty for the halo helldivers. After succes of that they went and reached blizz to make them one. So here we are. For that, setting is suitable dying often and a lot must be a part of it.

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I mean, there presumably *is* but it isn't depicted outside of mabye some of the books and comics

And do I trust modern Blizzard to create that, and it be more interesting than anything else they could have done?

They'd be pulling teeth trying to get the esports people over to a starcraft 3 anyway, but I take your point

Here’s what pisses me off. They have given us the same Diablo game for 30+ years now (everyone loves it & makes big bucks) but we can’t get SC3 as a RTS because the “genre is dead” Revive it then. You’re fucking Blizzard.

Foreseeing the game being a mix of Aliens VS Predator 2010 (three factions), Battlefront (unlocking variants/classes), with options for spawn-in (dropship or pod), and a lot of AI allies. Presuming they'll add the other races/factions as expansions.

Nah there absolutely is. All those stories of Raynor's group causing subterfuge and other missions. Raynor sherifing out in town where Zerg are just appearing. Fucking LIberty hitchin along different characters to see the war. There are such stories in SC so you can absolutely1/2

The RTS games had smaller scale missions controlling just a squad or even a single unit at times.

It's being lead by Far Cry 3-6 lead designer and those games give you a perfect template for Starcraft, so you start as very weak protag and only get overpowered by last 3rd act.

Maybe it's Battlefield Modern Combat style?

They could be taking a Helldivers 2 approach lol

Complete fucking non sense...

Helldivers type of game I guess, I hoped for an rts but it’s too much to ask sadly

Would be so sick if its a looter shooter that replaces destiny

The clue in the trailer. The character dies and gets replaced by infinity other soldiers. Dying and coming back might be a gameplay mechanic.

Unless the game is like Helldivers in play where you get hot-dropped into a meatgrinder and die an absurd number of times. But that would require the game being a multiplayer game which they have not confirmed yet.

Man this trailer is the gold standard. Had they a brought a movie At that time it woukd have mogged so hard.

I expect this is gonna be a years late to the party Extraction Shooter/Helldivers-alike. Squad of left behind marines trying to get out and mostly dying horribly.

是的，星际争霸是星际文明之间的对抗，把它做成开放世界？意思是可以穿梭星海的文明在一片泥坑里打滚

I'm sure the world of starcraft has street level shit oing on. But that street level shit has nothing to do with the central story and conflict of Starcraft. A linear shooter like Ghost at least made some sense in the overall narrative.

I DO NOT CARE IF I GET TO PLAY AS ZERG, GIVE ME OPEN WORLD ZERG GAME AND I'LL BUY STARCRAFT AND PAINT THE HORDE [Huge tyranid fan here hi hello]

There were missions when you had one unit or a very small number of them and had to navigate a big mission against many enemies.

If you were a ghost you could do some damage. Or a pilot of something cool, like a Thor or Liberator. I have no idea what they're going to do, but there is enough source material to have a lot of neat things to do. (Robbing trains on vulture bikes? Go clubbing in New Ghettysburg?)

Street level stuff like 40k?? Am I missing something here

It will be Helldivers but played as expendable Dominion conscripts.