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🇺🇸🎙🇵🇸 Jackson Hinkle asks Hamas political bureau member Basem Naim if "October 7th" was a victory for the Palestinian people: "October 7th had made it clear that Palestinians can achieve their goals. Israel is defeatable. Palestinians can do it even alone. Maybe for some reasons, we can say that...

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@jacksonhinklle This was the best interview I’ve seen💯💯

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Goals achieved? Looks like it.

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@jacksonhinklle Very easy to see who are the good guys If israel want to wipe out Hamas they could easily do it but they choose not to But if Gaza could they would wipe out without blinking… but they can’t

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⚡️🇵🇸JUST IN: Hamas leader Bassim Naim to Jackson Hinkle [Jackson Hinkle 🇺🇸] on Legitimate Targets Channel: “It is between Palestinians and Israel, maybe this time it’s lead by Hamas, 20-30 years ago it was lead by Fatah and before that it was lead by PFLP….We have no problems with Jews or Judaism, it is clear we are fighting for political goals, we are fighting against the occupation…..If we can achieve our goals politically and peacefully then this is welcomed from our side” “We tried peace before we signed an agreement in 1993, Olso agreement and we gave the international community 30 years until 2023 to implement this deal so that Palestinians have their own sovereign independent state but it had all collapsed due to more land annexation, settlements expansion…..”
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⚡️🇵🇸JUST IN: Hamas leader Bassim Naim to Jackson Hinkle [Jackson Hinkle 🇺🇸] on Legitimate Targets Channel: “It is between Palestinians and Israel, maybe this time it’s lead by Hamas, 20-30 years ago it was lead by Fatah and before that it was lead by PFLP….We have no problems with Jews or Judaism, it is clear we are fighting for political goals, we are fighting against the occupation…..If we can achieve our goals politically and peacefully then this is welcomed from our side” “We tried peace before we signed an agreement in 1993, Olso agreement and we gave the international community 30 years until 2023 to implement this deal so that Palestinians have their own sovereign independent state but it had all collapsed due to more land annexation, settlements expansion…..”

Suppressed News.

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Chas Freeman: Hamas is a resistance movement which has been resisting for 70 years absolutely outrageous treatment and Israel in many eyes has become an abomination on the face of the Earth. The Israelis have made it very clear—despite what some in the United States are saying—that they have absolutely no intention of ever permitting self-determination for the Palestinians. And yet without that self-determination, Israel cannot enjoy security and the Middle East as a whole will continue to be in a state of chaos. And so the world would like to see a two-state solution. I don’t believe at all that the Israelis wanted this attack but they have taken full advantage of it to do what they always intended which is to try to depopulate Palestine. So they have done this in a particularly brutal and highly objectionable fashion which is justifiably called genocide. And the Israelis simply do not understand that what they have done in response to October 7th has almost completely erased the international outrage that that attracted at the time. And Israel in many eyes has become an Abomination on the face of the Earth. Hamas is a resistance movement which has been resisting for 70 years absolutely outrageous treatment by Israel and the Israeli settlers. And Israel is a government, an elected tyranny, which tyrannizes and terrorizes the Palestinian population with the objective of expelling them from their homeland. No, there is no equivalence at all. What Hamas did is understandable. What Israel is doing is inexcusable. This is the view of the world. But what it has become is evil. And it is recognized as such almost everywhere now. Nobody shares the values Israel is now exhibiting: the racism, the murderous spirit, the utter inhumanity, the defiance of international decency, international opinion, and the rule of law. Nobody, nobody can sympathize with that. The Palestinians are just as entitled to self-determination and the right to defend themselves as Israelis are. You can’t have peace, we have learned, without addressing the Palestinian issue. And Israel remains determined not to address it except in terms of ethnic cleansing. That will not work. The notion that somehow or other the international community or Israel or the United States can wish Palestinian nationalism out of existence and impose a government on the Palestinians that they have not selected for themselves just won’t work. There must be democratic self-determination on the part of the Palestinians, and they, not Washington or Jerusalem or Tel Aviv, will be the ones to decide who governs them.
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Chas Freeman: Hamas is a resistance movement which has been resisting for 70 years absolutely outrageous treatment and Israel in many eyes has become an abomination on the face of the Earth. The Israelis have made it very clear—despite what some in the United States are saying—that they have absolutely no intention of ever permitting self-determination for the Palestinians. And yet without that self-determination, Israel cannot enjoy security and the Middle East as a whole will continue to be in a state of chaos. And so the world would like to see a two-state solution. I don’t believe at all that the Israelis wanted this attack but they have taken full advantage of it to do what they always intended which is to try to depopulate Palestine. So they have done this in a particularly brutal and highly objectionable fashion which is justifiably called genocide. And the Israelis simply do not understand that what they have done in response to October 7th has almost completely erased the international outrage that that attracted at the time. And Israel in many eyes has become an Abomination on the face of the Earth. Hamas is a resistance movement which has been resisting for 70 years absolutely outrageous treatment by Israel and the Israeli settlers. And Israel is a government, an elected tyranny, which tyrannizes and terrorizes the Palestinian population with the objective of expelling them from their homeland. No, there is no equivalence at all. What Hamas did is understandable. What Israel is doing is inexcusable. This is the view of the world. But what it has become is evil. And it is recognized as such almost everywhere now. Nobody shares the values Israel is now exhibiting: the racism, the murderous spirit, the utter inhumanity, the defiance of international decency, international opinion, and the rule of law. Nobody, nobody can sympathize with that. The Palestinians are just as entitled to self-determination and the right to defend themselves as Israelis are. You can’t have peace, we have learned, without addressing the Palestinian issue. And Israel remains determined not to address it except in terms of ethnic cleansing. That will not work. The notion that somehow or other the international community or Israel or the United States can wish Palestinian nationalism out of existence and impose a government on the Palestinians that they have not selected for themselves just won’t work. There must be democratic self-determination on the part of the Palestinians, and they, not Washington or Jerusalem or Tel Aviv, will be the ones to decide who governs them.

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🇵🇸 🇺🇳 “What is the alternative? A one State reality where Palestinians are denied equal rights and forced to live under perpetual occupation and inequality or a one State reality where Palestinians are expelled from their land. That is not peace. That is not justice. That is not in accordance with international law. That will only increase the global isolation of Israel in the international stage. Statehood for the Palestinian people is a right. Not a reward.”
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🇵🇸 🇺🇳 “What is the alternative? A one State reality where Palestinians are denied equal rights and forced to live under perpetual occupation and inequality or a one State reality where Palestinians are expelled from their land. That is not peace. That is not justice. That is not in accordance with international law. That will only increase the global isolation of Israel in the international stage. Statehood for the Palestinian people is a right. Not a reward.”

State of Palestine

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The polls are in and Brigitte Gabriel breaks it down. The Arab world for research and development ran a poll of the Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank. Here are the results. 3/4 Palestinians support Hamas’ October 7th massacre. 98% said that October 7th made them proud. 77% want to destroy Israel. And in the West Bank? Hamas is even more popular. 88% approval rating. Islamic Jihad 93% support in the West Bank. 98% of Palestinians in the West Bank say they hate America. 96.8% in Gaza hate America. Oh, and the UK?! 100% said they hate the UK. Yes, you read that right. 100%. 92% hate the EU and 88% hate the UN. Can you say death cult who hates everyone and wants everyone dead? As Brigitte so eloquently said “We don’t really believe in evil. Even when we come face to face with it, we make excuses for it.” Wake up, folks. The Palestinian people have chosen terror over freedom. They have chosen to build a rotten society from the ground up instead of building a flourishing state. The hard truth is, this isn’t a war between Israel and Hamas. This is a war between the west, represented by Israel, against radical Islam represented by the Palestinian people and their elected government, Hamas. Numbers don’t lie and the Palestinians have chosen death over life.
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The polls are in and Brigitte Gabriel breaks it down. The Arab world for research and development ran a poll of the Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank. Here are the results. 3/4 Palestinians support Hamas’ October 7th massacre. 98% said that October 7th made them proud. 77% want to destroy Israel. And in the West Bank? Hamas is even more popular. 88% approval rating. Islamic Jihad 93% support in the West Bank. 98% of Palestinians in the West Bank say they hate America. 96.8% in Gaza hate America. Oh, and the UK?! 100% said they hate the UK. Yes, you read that right. 100%. 92% hate the EU and 88% hate the UN. Can you say death cult who hates everyone and wants everyone dead? As Brigitte so eloquently said “We don’t really believe in evil. Even when we come face to face with it, we make excuses for it.” Wake up, folks. The Palestinian people have chosen terror over freedom. They have chosen to build a rotten society from the ground up instead of building a flourishing state. The hard truth is, this isn’t a war between Israel and Hamas. This is a war between the west, represented by Israel, against radical Islam represented by the Palestinian people and their elected government, Hamas. Numbers don’t lie and the Palestinians have chosen death over life.

Hillel Fuld

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This is not a Hamas summer camp and this is not Gaza. It is a children's camp in Nablus, in the West Bank. It is organized by the "moderate" Fatah. Palestinians will have a state when they love their own children more than they hate Jews.
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This is not a Hamas summer camp and this is not Gaza. It is a children's camp in Nablus, in the West Bank. It is organized by the "moderate" Fatah. Palestinians will have a state when they love their own children more than they hate Jews.

Rabbi Poupko

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NEW: Antony Blinken revealed to the NYT that he was set to meet with Israel and Saudi Arabia on October 10th to discuss a path toward a Palestinian state, but Hamas' October 7th attack derailed the meeting. Hamas only hurts Palestinians—hijacking their rights, oppressing and killing them, and destroying their hopes for self-determination. Supporting Hamas is supporting the destruction of Palestinian rights and aspirations.
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NEW: Antony Blinken revealed to the NYT that he was set to meet with Israel and Saudi Arabia on October 10th to discuss a path toward a Palestinian state, but Hamas' October 7th attack derailed the meeting. Hamas only hurts Palestinians—hijacking their rights, oppressing and killing them, and destroying their hopes for self-determination. Supporting Hamas is supporting the destruction of Palestinian rights and aspirations.

Hen Mazzig

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"Ongoing" - One of the phrases increasingly used next to the term "Nakba" is "Ongoing" as in the recent proposal by Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib. Now westerners assume that the "ongoing" seeks to highlight continued suffering of Palestinian Arabs, but as with so many other phrases that serve as "dual use language" (as Eran Shayshon coined) is that the deep meaning is very different. Once it is known and understood that the real time meaning of the Nakba, as described by Constantin Zureiq as "Seven Arab states declare war in an attempt to subdue Zionism, stop impotent before it, and return on their heels" was the shameful failure to defeat the lowly Jews in war - it becomes crystal clear why it remains "ongoing": As long as Israel exists, the Arab, and especially Palestinian Arab shameful failure to dismantle Jewish sovereignty and "subdue Zionism" remains "ongoing". As long as, per Bevin's quote, the top goal of the Palestine Arabs "to resist to the last the establishment of Jewish sovereignty in any part of the land" remains unfulfilled, their definition of disaster remains "ongoing". In the updated book of The War of Return, "October Return", Dr. Adi Schwartz and I included a dictionary of sort to explore this dual use language. I share it here with you: "This becomes especially clear when analyzing the language of Palestinian identity and that of its supporters around the world. Terms such as “two states,” “justice,” “return,” and “rights” carry one meaning in dialogue between Palestinians and Westerners or Israelis—but an entirely different meaning within internal Palestinian discourse. "Take “two states,” for example. During the years of negotiations, Palestinian leaders—and many surveys—expressed support for the “two-state solution.” Israelis and Westerners reasonably assumed that this meant one state for Palestinian Arabs and one for Jews. In retrospect, we should have checked. For when Palestinians speak of “two states,” they also maintain that millions of Palestinian “refugees” have a right to settle inside Israel. The implication is that the phrase “two states” actually means a Palestinian Arab state in the West Bank and Gaza, alongside a second Arab-majority state that replaces Israel via the mass return of refugees. In effect: “this one is ours, and that one is also ours.” "To this day, no official Palestinian peace plan includes the recognition of a Jewish state on any part of the land between the river and the sea. "It is also worth examining the meaning of a word like “justice”—so frequently invoked in phrases like “a just peace,” “a just solution,” or in the names of organizations such as “Students for Justice in Palestine.” To many in the world, “justice” may simply mean that Palestinians should have a state of their own, or that Israel should not control their daily lives. That is a reasonable interpretation. But it is not the Palestinian one. "For Palestinians, there is only one concept of justice: the reversal of the injustice they associate with the creation of the State of Israel. And central to that “corrective justice” is return—which, by definition, entails the end of Israel as the nation-state of the Jewish people. "The same applies to words like “rights,” “liberation,” and, of course, “return.” As will become clear in the pages ahead, there is no ambiguity: “return” is the concept that embodies victory over the Jewish state and its elimination. "That is why the butcherty of October 7 was greeted with euphoria."
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"Ongoing" - One of the phrases increasingly used next to the term "Nakba" is "Ongoing" as in the recent proposal by Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib. Now westerners assume that the "ongoing" seeks to highlight continued suffering of Palestinian Arabs, but as with so many other phrases that serve as "dual use language" (as Eran Shayshon coined) is that the deep meaning is very different. Once it is known and understood that the real time meaning of the Nakba, as described by Constantin Zureiq as "Seven Arab states declare war in an attempt to subdue Zionism, stop impotent before it, and return on their heels" was the shameful failure to defeat the lowly Jews in war - it becomes crystal clear why it remains "ongoing": As long as Israel exists, the Arab, and especially Palestinian Arab shameful failure to dismantle Jewish sovereignty and "subdue Zionism" remains "ongoing". As long as, per Bevin's quote, the top goal of the Palestine Arabs "to resist to the last the establishment of Jewish sovereignty in any part of the land" remains unfulfilled, their definition of disaster remains "ongoing". In the updated book of The War of Return, "October Return", Dr. Adi Schwartz and I included a dictionary of sort to explore this dual use language. I share it here with you: "This becomes especially clear when analyzing the language of Palestinian identity and that of its supporters around the world. Terms such as “two states,” “justice,” “return,” and “rights” carry one meaning in dialogue between Palestinians and Westerners or Israelis—but an entirely different meaning within internal Palestinian discourse. "Take “two states,” for example. During the years of negotiations, Palestinian leaders—and many surveys—expressed support for the “two-state solution.” Israelis and Westerners reasonably assumed that this meant one state for Palestinian Arabs and one for Jews. In retrospect, we should have checked. For when Palestinians speak of “two states,” they also maintain that millions of Palestinian “refugees” have a right to settle inside Israel. The implication is that the phrase “two states” actually means a Palestinian Arab state in the West Bank and Gaza, alongside a second Arab-majority state that replaces Israel via the mass return of refugees. In effect: “this one is ours, and that one is also ours.” "To this day, no official Palestinian peace plan includes the recognition of a Jewish state on any part of the land between the river and the sea. "It is also worth examining the meaning of a word like “justice”—so frequently invoked in phrases like “a just peace,” “a just solution,” or in the names of organizations such as “Students for Justice in Palestine.” To many in the world, “justice” may simply mean that Palestinians should have a state of their own, or that Israel should not control their daily lives. That is a reasonable interpretation. But it is not the Palestinian one. "For Palestinians, there is only one concept of justice: the reversal of the injustice they associate with the creation of the State of Israel. And central to that “corrective justice” is return—which, by definition, entails the end of Israel as the nation-state of the Jewish people. "The same applies to words like “rights,” “liberation,” and, of course, “return.” As will become clear in the pages ahead, there is no ambiguity: “return” is the concept that embodies victory over the Jewish state and its elimination. "That is why the butcherty of October 7 was greeted with euphoria."

ד״ר עינת וילף Dr. Einat Wilf

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The United States continues to believe that the sole viable path is a two-state solution, with Israelis and Palestinians each exercising their legitimate right to live in a state of their own, with equal measures of security and freedom, of opportunity and dignity.
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The United States continues to believe that the sole viable path is a two-state solution, with Israelis and Palestinians each exercising their legitimate right to live in a state of their own, with equal measures of security and freedom, of opportunity and dignity.

Department of State

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So it’s not about the 7th of October… I received this different times question (Do you condemn the 7th of October attacks) when I showed with different western media channels, but they keep cutting my answer because they actually don’t like my answer. They believed it may be hard for me to answer or I will be afraid to answer! A lot of journalists kept advising me to run from this question, but I told myself I am Motaz. So I answered this question multiple times but they never kept it or shared it because they record my interview before and then take what is suitable for their agenda. If you want a besieged Palestinian to condemn it, you need to declare that you condemn what Israel been doing against Palestinians before the 7th of October, since 1948 and during the genocide, and after it. Palestinians are not terrorists, Israel killing Palestinians everyday like its duty for them. Israel is a terror state.
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So it’s not about the 7th of October… I received this different times question (Do you condemn the 7th of October attacks) when I showed with different western media channels, but they keep cutting my answer because they actually don’t like my answer. They believed it may be hard for me to answer or I will be afraid to answer! A lot of journalists kept advising me to run from this question, but I told myself I am Motaz. So I answered this question multiple times but they never kept it or shared it because they record my interview before and then take what is suitable for their agenda. If you want a besieged Palestinian to condemn it, you need to declare that you condemn what Israel been doing against Palestinians before the 7th of October, since 1948 and during the genocide, and after it. Palestinians are not terrorists, Israel killing Palestinians everyday like its duty for them. Israel is a terror state.

MoTaz

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This is a pertinent clip from Sam Harris on the moral difference between Israel and her enemies. The moral difference comes down to understanding the answer to this question: what would each side do if they had the power to do it? TRANSCRIPT: The truth is that there is an obvious, undeniable, and hugely consequential moral difference between Israel and her enemies. The Israelis are surrounded by people who have explicitly genocidal intentions towards them. The charter of Hamas is explicitly genocidal. It looks forward to a time, based on Koranic prophesy, when the earth itself will cry out for Jewish blood, where the trees and the stones will say “O Muslim, there’s a Jew hiding behind me. Come and kill him.” This is a political document. We are talking about a government that was voted into power by a majority of Palestinians. The discourse in the Muslim world about Jews is utterly shocking. Not only is there widespread Holocaust denial—there’s Holocaust denial that then asserts that we will do it for real if given the chance. The only thing more obnoxious than denying the Holocaust is to say that it should have happened; it didn’t happen, but if we get the chance, we will accomplish it. There are children’s shows in the Palestinian territories and elsewhere that teach five-year-olds about the glories of martyrdom and about the necessity of killing Jews. And this gets to the heart of the moral difference between Israel and her enemies. And this is something I discussed in The End of Faith. To see this moral difference, you have to ask what each side would do if they had the power to do it. What would the Jews do to the Palestinians if they could do anything they wanted? Well, we know the answer to that question, because they can do more or less anything they want. The Israeli army could kill everyone in Gaza tomorrow. So what does that mean? Well, it means that, when they drop a bomb on a beach and kill four Palestinian children, as happened last week, this is almost certainly an accident. They’re not targeting children. They could target as many children as they want. Every time a Palestinian child dies, Israel edges ever closer to becoming an international pariah. So the Israelis take great pains not to kill children and other noncombatants. What do we know of the Palestinians? What would the Palestinians do to the Jews in Israel if the power imbalance were reversed? Well, they have told us what they would do. For some reason, Israel’s critics just don’t want to believe the worst about a group like Hamas, even when it declares the worst of itself. We’ve already had a Holocaust and several other genocides in the 20th century. People are capable of committing genocide. When they tell us they intend to commit genocide, we should listen. There is every reason to believe that the Palestinians would kill all the Jews in Israel if they could. Would every Palestinian support genocide? Of course not. But vast numbers of them—and of Muslims throughout the world—would. Needless to say, the Palestinians in general, not just Hamas, have a history of targeting innocent noncombatants in the most shocking ways possible. They’ve blown themselves up on buses and in restaurants. They’ve massacred teenagers. They’ve murdered Olympic athletes. They now shoot rockets indiscriminately into civilian areas. And again, the charter of their government in Gaza explicitly tells us that they want to annihilate the Jews—not just in Israel but everywhere.
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This is a pertinent clip from Sam Harris on the moral difference between Israel and her enemies. The moral difference comes down to understanding the answer to this question: what would each side do if they had the power to do it? TRANSCRIPT: The truth is that there is an obvious, undeniable, and hugely consequential moral difference between Israel and her enemies. The Israelis are surrounded by people who have explicitly genocidal intentions towards them. The charter of Hamas is explicitly genocidal. It looks forward to a time, based on Koranic prophesy, when the earth itself will cry out for Jewish blood, where the trees and the stones will say “O Muslim, there’s a Jew hiding behind me. Come and kill him.” This is a political document. We are talking about a government that was voted into power by a majority of Palestinians. The discourse in the Muslim world about Jews is utterly shocking. Not only is there widespread Holocaust denial—there’s Holocaust denial that then asserts that we will do it for real if given the chance. The only thing more obnoxious than denying the Holocaust is to say that it should have happened; it didn’t happen, but if we get the chance, we will accomplish it. There are children’s shows in the Palestinian territories and elsewhere that teach five-year-olds about the glories of martyrdom and about the necessity of killing Jews. And this gets to the heart of the moral difference between Israel and her enemies. And this is something I discussed in The End of Faith. To see this moral difference, you have to ask what each side would do if they had the power to do it. What would the Jews do to the Palestinians if they could do anything they wanted? Well, we know the answer to that question, because they can do more or less anything they want. The Israeli army could kill everyone in Gaza tomorrow. So what does that mean? Well, it means that, when they drop a bomb on a beach and kill four Palestinian children, as happened last week, this is almost certainly an accident. They’re not targeting children. They could target as many children as they want. Every time a Palestinian child dies, Israel edges ever closer to becoming an international pariah. So the Israelis take great pains not to kill children and other noncombatants. What do we know of the Palestinians? What would the Palestinians do to the Jews in Israel if the power imbalance were reversed? Well, they have told us what they would do. For some reason, Israel’s critics just don’t want to believe the worst about a group like Hamas, even when it declares the worst of itself. We’ve already had a Holocaust and several other genocides in the 20th century. People are capable of committing genocide. When they tell us they intend to commit genocide, we should listen. There is every reason to believe that the Palestinians would kill all the Jews in Israel if they could. Would every Palestinian support genocide? Of course not. But vast numbers of them—and of Muslims throughout the world—would. Needless to say, the Palestinians in general, not just Hamas, have a history of targeting innocent noncombatants in the most shocking ways possible. They’ve blown themselves up on buses and in restaurants. They’ve massacred teenagers. They’ve murdered Olympic athletes. They now shoot rockets indiscriminately into civilian areas. And again, the charter of their government in Gaza explicitly tells us that they want to annihilate the Jews—not just in Israel but everywhere.

Colin Wright

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🇵🇸 🇲🇻 “We may be small but we have never ever failed to stand for what it is right. This is why we recognized the State of Palestine in 1988. The State of Palestine exists. The Palestinian flags flies outside this hall. Its sovereignty and its people must be not erased. Palestinians have the inalienable right to remain to return and to govern State of their own, freely and fully.”
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🇵🇸 🇲🇻 “We may be small but we have never ever failed to stand for what it is right. This is why we recognized the State of Palestine in 1988. The State of Palestine exists. The Palestinian flags flies outside this hall. Its sovereignty and its people must be not erased. Palestinians have the inalienable right to remain to return and to govern State of their own, freely and fully.”

State of Palestine

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🇺🇸🇪🇺🇮🇷 Trump asks NATO states to protect the Strait of Hormuz: I'm demanding that these countries come in and protect their own territory because it is their territory. It's the place from which they get their energy. We [the US] have a lot of oil." *US washes the hands of it?
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🇺🇸🇪🇺🇮🇷 Trump asks NATO states to protect the Strait of Hormuz: I'm demanding that these countries come in and protect their own territory because it is their territory. It's the place from which they get their energy. We [the US] have a lot of oil." *US washes the hands of it?

Lord Bebo

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‘Israel’s war on the Palestinians and Arabs is NO LONGER A JUST WAR, it will bring about the end of Zionism.’ —Former Chief of Israel’s Shin Bet Admiral Ami Ayalon ‘Our war with the Arabs and the Palestinians started since the beginning of the Zionism, at the end of the 19th century. What I claim is that we won this war. We won this war because in Beirut in 2002, all the Arab League members, they met and they reverse the three no’s of Khartoum, as a result of the Israeli victory in the Six Day War, they met in Khartoum and they come to decide on three no’s: No to recognition, no to negotiation, and no to peace with Israel. It took several years and in 2002 they met again in Beirut and they understand that what they're facing is a new region, new Middle East, a new reality. And they reverse and they decide on the three yes: yes to recognition, yes to conversation and negotiation, and yes to peace with Israel, on the conditions, on the parameters of the UN Security Council resolutions. This is a major victory and we refuse to see our victory...since they accepted our presence, our right to declare a Jewish state in the Middle East, what I claim is that since this moment our war is not a just war anymore. Because what we are fighting for, and we do not understand in Israel, is in order to expand our eastern border, to deny the creation of a Palestinian state and the Palestinian right to self-determination…this is the end of the Zionist dream. Because if we are not majority in our state, we do not have the power and we do not have the right to dictate the culture, the language, the symbols, the way we celebrate our holidays. So in a way we are fighting without understanding that this war will bring the end of Zionist concept.’ Watch the full interview in the quoted post below👇
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‘Israel’s war on the Palestinians and Arabs is NO LONGER A JUST WAR, it will bring about the end of Zionism.’ —Former Chief of Israel’s Shin Bet Admiral Ami Ayalon ‘Our war with the Arabs and the Palestinians started since the beginning of the Zionism, at the end of the 19th century. What I claim is that we won this war. We won this war because in Beirut in 2002, all the Arab League members, they met and they reverse the three no’s of Khartoum, as a result of the Israeli victory in the Six Day War, they met in Khartoum and they come to decide on three no’s: No to recognition, no to negotiation, and no to peace with Israel. It took several years and in 2002 they met again in Beirut and they understand that what they're facing is a new region, new Middle East, a new reality. And they reverse and they decide on the three yes: yes to recognition, yes to conversation and negotiation, and yes to peace with Israel, on the conditions, on the parameters of the UN Security Council resolutions. This is a major victory and we refuse to see our victory...since they accepted our presence, our right to declare a Jewish state in the Middle East, what I claim is that since this moment our war is not a just war anymore. Because what we are fighting for, and we do not understand in Israel, is in order to expand our eastern border, to deny the creation of a Palestinian state and the Palestinian right to self-determination…this is the end of the Zionist dream. Because if we are not majority in our state, we do not have the power and we do not have the right to dictate the culture, the language, the symbols, the way we celebrate our holidays. So in a way we are fighting without understanding that this war will bring the end of Zionist concept.’ Watch the full interview in the quoted post below👇

Going Underground

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Iran’s FM Araghchi: "In our culture, apologizing is a sign of dignity and strength" If it is assumed that Iran has attacked its neighbors, that assumption is wrong; we have not attacked our neighbors. - We have targeted American bases and facilities that unfortunately are located in the territories of our neighboring countries. Therefore, we have not targeted our neighbors; we target the Americans who have attacked us. We are responding. We were not the ones who started the war; it was the United States that started the war against us, and we are simply defending ourselves. It is clear that our missiles do not reach American soil. What we can do is target American bases and facilities around us that unfortunately are located in the territories of neighboring countries. - First, in our culture, apologizing is a sign of dignity and strength. Second, he apologized to the people of the region for the problems caused as a result of the US aggression and our response. In fact, it is the President of the United States who should apologize to the people of the region and to the people of Iran for the killings and destruction they have caused.
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Iran’s FM Araghchi: "In our culture, apologizing is a sign of dignity and strength" If it is assumed that Iran has attacked its neighbors, that assumption is wrong; we have not attacked our neighbors. - We have targeted American bases and facilities that unfortunately are located in the territories of our neighboring countries. Therefore, we have not targeted our neighbors; we target the Americans who have attacked us. We are responding. We were not the ones who started the war; it was the United States that started the war against us, and we are simply defending ourselves. It is clear that our missiles do not reach American soil. What we can do is target American bases and facilities around us that unfortunately are located in the territories of neighboring countries. - First, in our culture, apologizing is a sign of dignity and strength. Second, he apologized to the people of the region for the problems caused as a result of the US aggression and our response. In fact, it is the President of the United States who should apologize to the people of the region and to the people of Iran for the killings and destruction they have caused.

True Promise - الوعد الصادق ✪🇮🇷

19,518 görüntüleme • 4 ay önce

🚨🇺🇸 INTERVIEW: “DENY PALESTINE, DESTABILIZE THE REGION. U.S-ISRAEL POLICY IS CREATING ENDLESS WAR" “I can’t be optimistic in the Middle East, because the fundamental source of Middle East strife is only getting worse, and that is denial of Palestinian rights and their minimal right to self-determination. That’s the source of all conflict. There’s been a long-standing international consensus going back many decades, accepted by all the major Palestinian factions, including Hamas, that Palestinians have the right to an independent state of their own… and Israel and the U.S. have moved alone in rejecting that. It was also a major driver of the conflict in Syria… It was through Syria that Iran was able to arm Hezbollah when they resisted Israel in the 2006 war, a way to strengthen Israel. That’s why I think we had that dirty war in Syria for so many years. As long as the new Syrian government doesn't stand up to Israel and continues to play the role of cutting off Hezbollah and Iran, the U.S. and Israel will be more than happy with it, even though Israel is still voicing some objections to the new government. What Israelis are trying to do is simply take out, as it did in Syria, another deterrent to its regional hegemony. So long as Palestinian’s self-determination is being denied, you’re going to have conflict in the region, you're going to have resistance, and as long as there is resistance, Israel is going to want to try and wipe it out. As long as you have Israel and the U.S. rejecting the whole global consensus that Palestinians have the right to self-determination, you're going to have conflict, which means resistance, which means you’re going to have continued Israeli aggression on those who resist.” Aaron Maté, Journalist & "Pushback" host for The Grayzone
4:27

🚨🇺🇸 INTERVIEW: “DENY PALESTINE, DESTABILIZE THE REGION. U.S-ISRAEL POLICY IS CREATING ENDLESS WAR" “I can’t be optimistic in the Middle East, because the fundamental source of Middle East strife is only getting worse, and that is denial of Palestinian rights and their minimal right to self-determination. That’s the source of all conflict. There’s been a long-standing international consensus going back many decades, accepted by all the major Palestinian factions, including Hamas, that Palestinians have the right to an independent state of their own… and Israel and the U.S. have moved alone in rejecting that. It was also a major driver of the conflict in Syria… It was through Syria that Iran was able to arm Hezbollah when they resisted Israel in the 2006 war, a way to strengthen Israel. That’s why I think we had that dirty war in Syria for so many years. As long as the new Syrian government doesn't stand up to Israel and continues to play the role of cutting off Hezbollah and Iran, the U.S. and Israel will be more than happy with it, even though Israel is still voicing some objections to the new government. What Israelis are trying to do is simply take out, as it did in Syria, another deterrent to its regional hegemony. So long as Palestinian’s self-determination is being denied, you’re going to have conflict in the region, you're going to have resistance, and as long as there is resistance, Israel is going to want to try and wipe it out. As long as you have Israel and the U.S. rejecting the whole global consensus that Palestinians have the right to self-determination, you're going to have conflict, which means resistance, which means you’re going to have continued Israeli aggression on those who resist.” Aaron Maté, Journalist & "Pushback" host for The Grayzone

Mario Nawfal

17,506 görüntüleme • 8 ay önce

Question from journalist: “France says that they will support Palestinian statehood in the next short while. You’ve described that as a reward for Hamas here. Other countries like Australia are also walking down this path. Not quite there yet. How much of this is a reward for Hamas, and how much of it is actually countries like those who have repeatedly said Israel does have a right to defend itself, but are now struggling to stomach what they’re saying you and your military are doing in Gaza?” -- Prime Minister Netanyahu’s Response: “Well, first of all, those who say that Israel has a right to defend itself are also saying, but don’t exercise that right. When we do what any country would do, faced with this genocidal terrorist organization that has performed the worst attack on Jews since the Holocaust, I think we’re actually applying force judiciously. And they know it. They know what they would do if they’re right next to Melbourne or right next to Sydney. You had this horrific attacks. I think you would do it, at least what we’re doing, probably─ maybe not as efficiently and as precisely as we’re doing it. We’ve lost quite a few soldiers in that effort. But, that’s the first thing. I think that, the second thing you ask is a Palestinian state. Well, the assumption, the prevailing assumption, in this, is that the problem that we have with the Palestinians is the absence of a Palestinian state. And if they were given a Palestinian state, they would stop the efforts to destroy the Jewish state. But the Palestinians were offered a state many times, including in the partition resolution, and they turned it down. They were offered statehood by my predecessors with lavish, lavish concessions. They turned it down. Because the Palestinians are not about creating a state; they’re about destroying a state. That’s why they opposed the Jewish national movement to create a state. It’s called Zionism. They opposed it before the inception of the Jewish state, and they’ve opposed it since. They’ve opposed it when they had Judea and Samaria, the West Bank and Gaza in their whole. They didn’t say, let’s start, let’s create a state there. They didn’t say that, because, again, their goal is the destruction of a state. It defies imagination or understanding how intelligent people around the world, okay, including seasoned diplomats, government leaders and respected journalists, fall for this absurdity. It’s so easy to verify, you know. And look at the PA. Okay. Look at the Palestinian National movement today is divided between two forces: The Palestinian Authority in Judea and Samaria, and Hamas in Gaza. Okay. Hamas in Gaza had a de facto state. It had a state and it used it to launch a war of terror against Israel, because their doctrine, that is, that the destruction of Israel should proceed with forceful and direct military and terrorist moves. That’s what they did on October 7th. That’s what they’ll do again if we don’t destroy them. The Palestinian Authority, on the other hand, says, ‘No. First, Israel has to be reduced to indefensible boundaries. You’ve got to get them out. With the ICC, with the UN, with the Security Council resolutions: Drive them to indefensible boundaries and then deliver the blow, because Israel is too strong in its present configuration.’ These discussions are open. They’re held. Anybody─ you don’t need Israeli Intel for it, believe me. You can just scour the web, you’ll find it. Okay. So they have no difference about the goal. That’s why the Palestinian children in Judea and Samaria and the Palestinian children, that is, the Palestinian children under the PA, and the Palestinian children under Hamas are educated with exactly the same textbooks. That’s why the PA calls its public squares against mass killers of Jews. That’s why they have pay for slay: The more Jews you murder, the more you get paid. Or your family gets paid. I mean, so that that’s the crux of the problem. The real reason that this conflict persists is not because of the absence of a Palestinian state, but the persistent Palestinian refusal to recognize a Jewish state in any boundary. Now, when you give them a Palestinian state, when they haven’t abandoned the goal of destroying the Jewish state, all you’re doing is you’re making, you’re bringing the next war closer. Again, Hamas had a state. You just brought the war closer. And if you did the same thing in Judea and Samaria, right above Tel Aviv, enveloping Jerusalem, some say cutting Jerusalem into two, that’s all that’s gonna happen. You’re going to have the radicals again take it over, Iran, take it over, and start a state from improved boundaries, start a war with improved boundaries. That’s not going to happen. I think the solution to this problem is that the Palestinians should have all the powers to govern themselves in the places where they live, and none of the powers to threaten Israel. They should obviously reform their whole education system. They should reform their whole historical outlook and say, ‘All right, you know, we accept that Israel is here to stay,’ not as a fact, as a physical or geographic fact, but as a fact of historical equity. You know, if they want to live here, next to us, they have to stop seeking our destruction. And to give them an independent state, with all the trimmings, is to invite a future war and a certain war. And that’s something that, today the Israeli public forcefully opposes. Before the war, by the way, it was about, you know, a third [for a Palestinian state] / two thirds [against], in the overall population. Probably 60 [against a Palestinian state]/40 for a state. Or even more, against [a state] in the Jewish population. But now it’s changed more dramatically [to more against a state]. I mean, we had a vote in the Knesset, a few months ago, about the possibility, you know, of having a Palestinian state. And the result was 99 to 9. 99 to 9. And that covers a very broad spectrum. And today most of the Jewish public is committed – is against the Palestinian state for the simple reason that they know it won’t bring peace, but it’ll bring war. To have uh, European countries, and Australia, march into that rabbit hole – just like that, fall right into it ─ and buy this canard is disappointing. And I think it’s actually shameful. But it’s not going to change our position. Again, we will not commit national suicide to get a good op-ed for two minutes. We won’t do that. Thank you very much.”
6:53

Question from journalist: “France says that they will support Palestinian statehood in the next short while. You’ve described that as a reward for Hamas here. Other countries like Australia are also walking down this path. Not quite there yet. How much of this is a reward for Hamas, and how much of it is actually countries like those who have repeatedly said Israel does have a right to defend itself, but are now struggling to stomach what they’re saying you and your military are doing in Gaza?” -- Prime Minister Netanyahu’s Response: “Well, first of all, those who say that Israel has a right to defend itself are also saying, but don’t exercise that right. When we do what any country would do, faced with this genocidal terrorist organization that has performed the worst attack on Jews since the Holocaust, I think we’re actually applying force judiciously. And they know it. They know what they would do if they’re right next to Melbourne or right next to Sydney. You had this horrific attacks. I think you would do it, at least what we’re doing, probably─ maybe not as efficiently and as precisely as we’re doing it. We’ve lost quite a few soldiers in that effort. But, that’s the first thing. I think that, the second thing you ask is a Palestinian state. Well, the assumption, the prevailing assumption, in this, is that the problem that we have with the Palestinians is the absence of a Palestinian state. And if they were given a Palestinian state, they would stop the efforts to destroy the Jewish state. But the Palestinians were offered a state many times, including in the partition resolution, and they turned it down. They were offered statehood by my predecessors with lavish, lavish concessions. They turned it down. Because the Palestinians are not about creating a state; they’re about destroying a state. That’s why they opposed the Jewish national movement to create a state. It’s called Zionism. They opposed it before the inception of the Jewish state, and they’ve opposed it since. They’ve opposed it when they had Judea and Samaria, the West Bank and Gaza in their whole. They didn’t say, let’s start, let’s create a state there. They didn’t say that, because, again, their goal is the destruction of a state. It defies imagination or understanding how intelligent people around the world, okay, including seasoned diplomats, government leaders and respected journalists, fall for this absurdity. It’s so easy to verify, you know. And look at the PA. Okay. Look at the Palestinian National movement today is divided between two forces: The Palestinian Authority in Judea and Samaria, and Hamas in Gaza. Okay. Hamas in Gaza had a de facto state. It had a state and it used it to launch a war of terror against Israel, because their doctrine, that is, that the destruction of Israel should proceed with forceful and direct military and terrorist moves. That’s what they did on October 7th. That’s what they’ll do again if we don’t destroy them. The Palestinian Authority, on the other hand, says, ‘No. First, Israel has to be reduced to indefensible boundaries. You’ve got to get them out. With the ICC, with the UN, with the Security Council resolutions: Drive them to indefensible boundaries and then deliver the blow, because Israel is too strong in its present configuration.’ These discussions are open. They’re held. Anybody─ you don’t need Israeli Intel for it, believe me. You can just scour the web, you’ll find it. Okay. So they have no difference about the goal. That’s why the Palestinian children in Judea and Samaria and the Palestinian children, that is, the Palestinian children under the PA, and the Palestinian children under Hamas are educated with exactly the same textbooks. That’s why the PA calls its public squares against mass killers of Jews. That’s why they have pay for slay: The more Jews you murder, the more you get paid. Or your family gets paid. I mean, so that that’s the crux of the problem. The real reason that this conflict persists is not because of the absence of a Palestinian state, but the persistent Palestinian refusal to recognize a Jewish state in any boundary. Now, when you give them a Palestinian state, when they haven’t abandoned the goal of destroying the Jewish state, all you’re doing is you’re making, you’re bringing the next war closer. Again, Hamas had a state. You just brought the war closer. And if you did the same thing in Judea and Samaria, right above Tel Aviv, enveloping Jerusalem, some say cutting Jerusalem into two, that’s all that’s gonna happen. You’re going to have the radicals again take it over, Iran, take it over, and start a state from improved boundaries, start a war with improved boundaries. That’s not going to happen. I think the solution to this problem is that the Palestinians should have all the powers to govern themselves in the places where they live, and none of the powers to threaten Israel. They should obviously reform their whole education system. They should reform their whole historical outlook and say, ‘All right, you know, we accept that Israel is here to stay,’ not as a fact, as a physical or geographic fact, but as a fact of historical equity. You know, if they want to live here, next to us, they have to stop seeking our destruction. And to give them an independent state, with all the trimmings, is to invite a future war and a certain war. And that’s something that, today the Israeli public forcefully opposes. Before the war, by the way, it was about, you know, a third [for a Palestinian state] / two thirds [against], in the overall population. Probably 60 [against a Palestinian state]/40 for a state. Or even more, against [a state] in the Jewish population. But now it’s changed more dramatically [to more against a state]. I mean, we had a vote in the Knesset, a few months ago, about the possibility, you know, of having a Palestinian state. And the result was 99 to 9. 99 to 9. And that covers a very broad spectrum. And today most of the Jewish public is committed – is against the Palestinian state for the simple reason that they know it won’t bring peace, but it’ll bring war. To have uh, European countries, and Australia, march into that rabbit hole – just like that, fall right into it ─ and buy this canard is disappointing. And I think it’s actually shameful. But it’s not going to change our position. Again, we will not commit national suicide to get a good op-ed for two minutes. We won’t do that. Thank you very much.”

Max 📟

77,213 görüntüleme • 11 ay önce

I present the Misesian case against Israel, and argue the only way to understand the Palestinian/Israeli conflict is that it is the result of the denial of property rights for Palestinians based purely on their not belonging to the ruling ethnoreligious group.
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I present the Misesian case against Israel, and argue the only way to understand the Palestinian/Israeli conflict is that it is the result of the denial of property rights for Palestinians based purely on their not belonging to the ruling ethnoreligious group.

Saifedean Ammous

25,139 görüntüleme • 1 ay önce

Another masterful interview on Gaza of Dominique De Villepin, former Prime Minister of France, who IMHO is the best diplomat the West has produced in decades. Again I believe that his words are so important and so rare among Western leaders today, that I decided to translate it in full (the bold parts are emphasis Villepin himself made when speaking): "The Israeli government, Benjamin Netanyahu, failed on October 7th and failed doubly. Firstly, in its ability to ensure the protection of the Israeli people by allowing massacres that are an abomination to occur. He bears direct responsibility for what happened. And his second failure is having encouraged a policy of occupation and colonization, which continues at this moment in the West Bank and constitutes another threat to Israel if a second front in the West Bank were to open. Force does not ensure the security of a people! This is what all Israelis must understand today. And what is important is that since October 7th, the Israeli government's choice has been to escalate the use of force. You know, neither force nor vengeance ensures peace and security. What ensures peace and security is justice! And justice is not being served today. The rationale of the Israeli government for the bombings happening today is flawed, and the whole international community can see it. The principle is: "we target terrorists, and unfortunately, there are also civilian populations," what is euphemistically called in military language "collateral damage." It must be understood that this collateral damage is not accidental. That is to say, it is perfectly predictable and fully accepted. [Host: "But once again, the responsibility is not solely Israeli."] But once more, let's stop asking about responsibility; let's look at the reality of what's happening on the ground! Assigning fault, allow me to tell you, we will leave to historians. What we want is to stop this violence, to stop these massacres. Israel is putting itself in danger, even more today, with this type of warfare and these types of strikes. We are essentially dealing with a policy of vengeance from the Netanyahu government. Israel has the right to self-defense, but self-defense does not give an indiscriminate right to kill civilian populations. When you target an ambulance, you can always imagine that there was a terrorist in one of the ambulances, or not. But the result is that there are children, women who die. Every child, every woman killed, that's more terrorists. Therefore, Israel's objective, what Israel achieves, is exactly the opposite of what they wish. So, it is essential today to change this logic and return to a strategy that is sound. Hostages, everything must be done to secure their release. But let's not forget: the Palestinian people are also taken hostage, by Hamas and by Israel. And Hamas, we all know, cares little for the Palestinian people. So telling Hamas: "we will not lift the siege, we will not have a humanitarian truce until the hostages are released," is a dialogue of the deaf. Benjamin Netanyahu is waging a war to do everything so that the political solution does not come to the table. And this is where the international community, Europe, the United States, must tell Benjamin Netanyahu that this war is not acceptable. It is not acceptable because it leads us directly [to escalation] - because we can see it well, from Hamas we will move to Iran, from Iran we will move to other targets, and we then enter into the logic of a clash of civilizations. When Mr. Benjamin Netanyahu says that on one side there is the people of light and on the other the people of darkness, we can see the kind of spiral we are getting into. All the wars that have been going on for the past twenty years are wars that begin and do not end. These are frozen conflicts. We know how to start a war; we do not know how to end it. And Mr. Benjamin Netanyahu could control Gaza, it would change nothing. There will continue to be terrorist attacks, Israelis will continue to live in fear. We must get out of this. The second reason why this is yesterday's war is that the war against terrorism has never been won anywhere. Force is not the answer, once again. Vengeance is not the answer. The answer is justice, and that is what all the peoples of the world, all those who today watch what is happening, call for justice. Today the direction we must follow is to prevent Benjamin Netanyahu from continuing his suicidal logic that will make Israel a besieged state. They can besiege Gaza, but they will be besieged. And do not think that tomorrow we will again have a pacified discourse with Saudi Arabia, with the Arab states that will normalize the situation: no! The wounds of history are awakening. Israel's interest is to have a responsible state at its side. And this responsible state, let's stop splitting hairs, must clearly be the West Bank, all of the West Bank. It must be Gaza, with access between the two territories, and East Jerusalem. The problem, and this is the whole point of Benjamin Netanyahu's escalation, is that Benjamin Netanyahu does not want it. And the policy of separation must be dignified. That is, it must confer to the Palestinians a state where they can live, a viable state, a true state, which can build itself and which will be all the more at peace... [Host: "Does that mean that the settlements in the West Bank have to be removed?"] Well, when we left Algeria, there were a million French who left Algeria. Today there are 500,000 Israelis colonizing the West Bank, and there are 200,000 in East Jerusalem. [Host: "They must leave the West Bank?"] Yes. Yes, that is history, that is responsibility, that is the price! I tell you solemnly, it is the price of security for Israel! And all those who today consider that it will never be enough are pursuing the worst policy." Credit to Caisses de grève (Gauche Gaza / Antifasciste) who took these extracts from the original interview which can be found here:
5:58

Another masterful interview on Gaza of Dominique De Villepin, former Prime Minister of France, who IMHO is the best diplomat the West has produced in decades. Again I believe that his words are so important and so rare among Western leaders today, that I decided to translate it in full (the bold parts are emphasis Villepin himself made when speaking): "The Israeli government, Benjamin Netanyahu, failed on October 7th and failed doubly. Firstly, in its ability to ensure the protection of the Israeli people by allowing massacres that are an abomination to occur. He bears direct responsibility for what happened. And his second failure is having encouraged a policy of occupation and colonization, which continues at this moment in the West Bank and constitutes another threat to Israel if a second front in the West Bank were to open. Force does not ensure the security of a people! This is what all Israelis must understand today. And what is important is that since October 7th, the Israeli government's choice has been to escalate the use of force. You know, neither force nor vengeance ensures peace and security. What ensures peace and security is justice! And justice is not being served today. The rationale of the Israeli government for the bombings happening today is flawed, and the whole international community can see it. The principle is: "we target terrorists, and unfortunately, there are also civilian populations," what is euphemistically called in military language "collateral damage." It must be understood that this collateral damage is not accidental. That is to say, it is perfectly predictable and fully accepted. [Host: "But once again, the responsibility is not solely Israeli."] But once more, let's stop asking about responsibility; let's look at the reality of what's happening on the ground! Assigning fault, allow me to tell you, we will leave to historians. What we want is to stop this violence, to stop these massacres. Israel is putting itself in danger, even more today, with this type of warfare and these types of strikes. We are essentially dealing with a policy of vengeance from the Netanyahu government. Israel has the right to self-defense, but self-defense does not give an indiscriminate right to kill civilian populations. When you target an ambulance, you can always imagine that there was a terrorist in one of the ambulances, or not. But the result is that there are children, women who die. Every child, every woman killed, that's more terrorists. Therefore, Israel's objective, what Israel achieves, is exactly the opposite of what they wish. So, it is essential today to change this logic and return to a strategy that is sound. Hostages, everything must be done to secure their release. But let's not forget: the Palestinian people are also taken hostage, by Hamas and by Israel. And Hamas, we all know, cares little for the Palestinian people. So telling Hamas: "we will not lift the siege, we will not have a humanitarian truce until the hostages are released," is a dialogue of the deaf. Benjamin Netanyahu is waging a war to do everything so that the political solution does not come to the table. And this is where the international community, Europe, the United States, must tell Benjamin Netanyahu that this war is not acceptable. It is not acceptable because it leads us directly [to escalation] - because we can see it well, from Hamas we will move to Iran, from Iran we will move to other targets, and we then enter into the logic of a clash of civilizations. When Mr. Benjamin Netanyahu says that on one side there is the people of light and on the other the people of darkness, we can see the kind of spiral we are getting into. All the wars that have been going on for the past twenty years are wars that begin and do not end. These are frozen conflicts. We know how to start a war; we do not know how to end it. And Mr. Benjamin Netanyahu could control Gaza, it would change nothing. There will continue to be terrorist attacks, Israelis will continue to live in fear. We must get out of this. The second reason why this is yesterday's war is that the war against terrorism has never been won anywhere. Force is not the answer, once again. Vengeance is not the answer. The answer is justice, and that is what all the peoples of the world, all those who today watch what is happening, call for justice. Today the direction we must follow is to prevent Benjamin Netanyahu from continuing his suicidal logic that will make Israel a besieged state. They can besiege Gaza, but they will be besieged. And do not think that tomorrow we will again have a pacified discourse with Saudi Arabia, with the Arab states that will normalize the situation: no! The wounds of history are awakening. Israel's interest is to have a responsible state at its side. And this responsible state, let's stop splitting hairs, must clearly be the West Bank, all of the West Bank. It must be Gaza, with access between the two territories, and East Jerusalem. The problem, and this is the whole point of Benjamin Netanyahu's escalation, is that Benjamin Netanyahu does not want it. And the policy of separation must be dignified. That is, it must confer to the Palestinians a state where they can live, a viable state, a true state, which can build itself and which will be all the more at peace... [Host: "Does that mean that the settlements in the West Bank have to be removed?"] Well, when we left Algeria, there were a million French who left Algeria. Today there are 500,000 Israelis colonizing the West Bank, and there are 200,000 in East Jerusalem. [Host: "They must leave the West Bank?"] Yes. Yes, that is history, that is responsibility, that is the price! I tell you solemnly, it is the price of security for Israel! And all those who today consider that it will never be enough are pursuing the worst policy." Credit to Caisses de grève (Gauche Gaza / Antifasciste) who took these extracts from the original interview which can be found here:

Arnaud Bertrand

2,838,822 görüntüleme • 2 yıl önce