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Linux Mint Says Wayland Worse Experience than X11 "We worked really hard on Wayland"... "and the experience is almost on par with X11."

12,696 次观看 • 2 个月前 •via X (Twitter)

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NP-complete 🪕🚳⚛✝️🥓 的头像
NP-complete 🪕🚳⚛✝️🥓2 个月前

At least for me on my hardware, the X11 experience is indeed better. I am also a grumpy old man that has used X11 since -92, so I don't like change.

Nikolaj Hansen 的头像
Nikolaj Hansen2 个月前

I agree it is almost on par with X11. But X11 still does things Wayland doesn't. And probably never will, because it wasn't designed for it. If your only tool is a hammer every problem is a nail.

Tom Miller 的头像
Tom Miller2 个月前

Tens of thousands of open source developers have spent the past 17 years working on Wayland, its compositors, the DEs, the libraries, the programs using the libraries, the scripts calling the programs.... Imagine if all this work went instead to useful features and bug fixes. 🙄

Greg Wolfe 的头像
Greg Wolfe2 个月前

Used Wayland desktop environments the last couple of distros I've tried out. Been a gnome user a long time and trying out Cosmic on PopOS and I want to like them but stuff is a little flakey. Cut buffers are wonky, won't wake up from sleep, won't sleep if I close the lid, etc.

Ironic Keyboard 的头像
Ironic Keyboard2 个月前

Wayland has worked without issue for me. I can't say the same about X11.

Daksh Tyagi | AI & SaaS 的头像
Daksh Tyagi | AI & SaaS2 个月前

X11 is just too deeply entrenched and reliable to completely kill off yet.

Rumato Estorsky 的头像
Rumato Estorsky2 个月前

Please, could you just stop posting this stuff. Wayland was not perfect for a long time. But at leas last 2 years it works better than X11 (on KDE). BTW lost all faith in the X11 after XLibre drama with commits reverting. X11 must die but what will replace it?

Keegan HGR 的头像
Keegan HGR2 个月前

Tried giving Wayland a go on mint. Picture in Picture video crashes my browser, no keyboard shortcuts. Its not ready yet. Not all change is bad. Pipewire fixed the worst of Pulseaudio for example.

Reelix 的头像
Reelix2 个月前

These community notes are comical. Almost on par == Not as good. Not as good == Worse. People need to learn how to English.

Dev Świr 的头像
Dev Świr2 个月前

No HiRes 4k scaling in X11 means X11 is unusable for me 😕 Mint as well.

Mailanka 的头像
Mailanka2 个月前

All I know is that on my KDE system, I had problems with screen flicker in full screen games that went away when I switched from Wayland to X11.

Magnus Jørgensen 的头像
Magnus Jørgensen2 个月前

This is great news. I am looking forward to trying out Mint on Wayland with all these improvements. I't would just be nice if it was released before next Christmas.

rancid emoji 的头像
rancid emoji2 个月前

I would use X11 if I were only using one monitor. Wayland just handles it better.

Frank Earl 的头像
Frank Earl2 个月前

There really, really is a hint in this people. If they couldn't get it there right...what possesses anyone else to think that it's ultimately all that great. Speed isn't everything if it's broken. Security isn't everything if it doesn't fucking work right.

Pranshu 的头像
Pranshu2 个月前

This has to be ragebait lol

nevgeniev 的头像
nevgeniev2 个月前

WTF are you even talking about? Have exactly zero Wayland issues in tumbleweed

Ben Wilson 的头像
Ben Wilson2 个月前

Why hasn't Square Fluggen-Flagon sponsored you? I'm outraged.

Chungus 的头像
Chungus2 个月前

Idk man. I switched to Wayland a few years ago just for the lols and it really works better than x11 for me. I have multiple monitors with different refresh rates and x11 could never get it right. Hyperland, kde, gnome all work flawlessly for me with Wayland

Daniel Kos 的头像
Daniel Kos2 个月前

Linux is about software freedom and choice, and I personally choose X11. I really like the original vision behind it, and I don't care that the people who came up with that vision did so a few decades ago.

J Kowalczyk 的头像
J Kowalczyk2 个月前

Are you fucking stupid or something? Can you read? Read the post again. Show us on the doll where Wayland "worse than X11"

Euryalers 的头像
Euryalers2 个月前

don't you get tired

Sirfer - ducking under the lip of life 的头像
Sirfer - ducking under the lip of life2 个月前

Value for value.

SyntaxError » CEO of "CEO of..."-names 的头像
SyntaxError » CEO of "CEO of..."-names2 个月前

you know that x11 is still there. Wayland has its pros

Sose 的头像
Sose2 个月前

Well, technically, the wayland is not so bad. The GNOME experience is not so bad. But the overall software achitecture is horrible. However, the X11 is also a problem, and we basically just need more work on the display server.

Marius Reinecker 的头像
Marius Reinecker2 个月前

I want tiling windows on my Mint :-/

Ethansehki 的头像
Ethansehki2 个月前

Wayland on fedora is phenomenal, except for a few minor things

Ali Sherief 的头像
Ali Sherief2 个月前

And that's why I'm sticking with X11 on Mint

Pyxis 的头像
Pyxis2 个月前

We gotchu

Thomas 🗽 的头像
Thomas 🗽2 个月前

Hilarious. Makes me just dig my heels into X11.

ENG 的头像
ENG2 个月前

wayland sucks

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