New FE Conceptual Model just dropped Fully Interactive model with fully adjustable date, location, star, sun and moon options No globularity, no globe constants — pure observational geometry. Cosmology overlays, Observer figures etc

The toroid 🫡

twas essential

Still a projection of the globe. there's your globe constant

So you accept the model as valid but are objecting to the projection? Neat. Good thing we can turn it off completely or swap it to any other without changing anything.

@DarrenS30322520 Do it then. What are you waiting for? Just swap in the map that shows the Earth as it really is, not the distorted version. You do know the precise way in which the Gleason map fails, don't you? So just go ahead and correct it.

@AntiDisinfo86 The Gleason map fails with bearings, areas and distance. It's not a flat earth representation as there's a projection required to map to reality

@Stinkhorn11 That's not what I use. Good thing there are options to change it or remove the projection entirely, like I said. Also, of course it doesnt fail. IT LITERALLY PRESERVES THE SAME DIRECTIONS as the orthographic globe. It cannot be both wrong and direction preserving LOL

@Stinkhorn11 If you remove the projection, how on earth do you map the earth to the plane?

@Stinkhorn11 More like an astrology star chart.

@Stinkhorn11 Not a model of the earth without the surface representation. You can do any transformation you like, but MUST be able to map surface distance 1:1 to claim flat earth.

OK, so another "FE" model that once again disproves FE.

How?

By showing where the light from the Sun is accurately, which directly contradicts everything we know about optics.

LMAO "SUNSETS" Another one. Cheers on the awesome interactive model debunk. It was devastating

How is the Sun visible in these areas while not being visible in the dark areas? (perfectly reasonable and obvious in a globe model.)

@AntiDisinfo86 Take a glass dome bowl, put it on your table and shine a flashlight on it, it will answer your question. Simple radial optics.

@AntiDisinfo86 Except that in the FE model the sun is INSIDE the bowl. That "experiment" only works because the light passes through a curved lens.

This isn’t a model. This is a translation that contorts the path of light magically to make the flat earth match observation. Given the time and inclination I can create a “conceptual model” to show how light would bend if earth was the shape of my butthole.

It models real world observations for an observer anywhere, never using any globe parameters or constants. meets the definition of a model even though you don't like it

(1) No one has ever observed light bending systematically like this - so don’t lie. (2) This is the globe model - so don’t lie - it’s just transformed onto a flat coordinate system. (3) your flat earth looks observationally identical to the globe.

Which part is the globe model? Feel free to reference any of the public code. We will wait right here and ignore any further questions until you either substantiate or withdraw that claim.

Well for a fucking start the moon and sun position algorithms are taken from Meeus - which is globe geometry (latitude/longitude describes an orientation change of an observer)

LMAO. So right ascension declination = globe? What you are saying is if you look up, thats globe evidence and any observations made while looking up only support the globe full stop. Which is retarded. Referencing true positions is not model exclusive. NEXT

Stop being a dishonest sack of shit. Meeus equations are the globe model (it even uses orbit eccentricity!). RA is the output of the equations. The inputs to the equations such as latitude and longitude are used as orientation parameters (because the earth is a globe)

Zero globe parameters. abstract spherical coordinate systems? sure Ab observable hemisphere expressed in spherical coordinates? Of course That makes it a globe? LOL NO. Laughable. Can you differeniate an abstract spherical coordinate system from the globe itself? go ahead

So your leaning towards our known realm being the only part of the realm? Are you not buying the 4 quarters moon map or you just don't have enough data to determine otherwise? I would still appreciate your perspective on my running theory that the sun is changing it's circuit based on the last two+ years of being the only one documenting these radar anomalies in the north and south.

This is an amazing #FlatEarth conceptual model. Where can I get it?

Must have been a lot of work and looks cool. Too much light bending though. Why would an observer in Antarctica see the sun in a completely different location than where the model actually puts it?

Maybe I'm missing something. How does this account for the 24 hour sun that never sets?

Directly. in the demo "Day over 24 hours at high latitude" — the model plants the observer at 78°N on summer solstice and sweeps through 24 hours. The sun stays within the optical vault the whole time. The code checks this with the SunAnglesGlobe.elevation value

Still half a globe and wouldn’t explain a shit load, waste of time genius.

@sebbunney FYI Make sure you follow Shane and Alan @space_audits

Still no geographical south pole. What a load of horse manure.

Now, with more nonsense and lies!

It swaps elegant physics for "optical patches" and "personal domes" just to force a 3D sky onto a 2D floor. Math shouldn't need a U-turn to explain a sunset.

I'm going to have fun with this.

follow the thoroïdal → toroid way:

@monkeyking0603 Awesome 😎

@BrockRiddickIFB Quite impressive.

wonder how globaloids gonna claim you turned linear perspective into a dome of vision yet pretend the zenith angle is due to physical curvature when the source code clearly shows the angle as orthographic view is apparent by the observer , not physical

heres a small comp of radar anomalies in the north mostly. The interesting part is there are almost identical, spherical shaped anomalies happening in Antarctica . Initially thought it had to be haarp because I found massive arrays down there on Google Earth, but if the sun has shifted its circuit, then we can assume that it's not only gonna change daylight, satellite and radar in the north, it's also going to have the same effect on some location on the outer rim.

The final experiment in 24 hour sun and the sun is going 2 ways. Why did you bother!?

It still does not work for australia. And whats with the fucken big tree

This toy is suitable for ages 2-5.

How do the stars/sun/moon dip below the horizon, loop under our feet, and come back up the other side like I physically observe every day? They don't stay above the horizon, nor change w/ perspective. Curious how your model creates that effect of clearly crossing the horizon

Comes down to the definition of the horizon I think We both agree its the optical place where the sky appears to meet the ground, you just think its being caused by physical earth curve, while we argue its being caused by the visual acuity limit and perspective at great distance

@MasatoToys Donc si c’est un problème d’acuité visuelle, nous pourrions voir le soleil au dessus de New York pendant qu’il fait nuit à Paris avec des appareils pouvant zoomer de façon puissante🤷🏻‍♂️ Aujourd’hui nous avons ces outils à disposition il serait simple de prouver cette théorie 🤔

@MasatoToys Não, a câmera apenas aumenta o limite de resolução angular para tornar resolúvel o que era irresolúvel, mas ainda assim haverá um limite máximo dependendo da altura do observador.

@JulienJou @MasatoToys Why does the observers height matter?

@JulienJou @MasatoToys Because it directly relates to how far you can see on both models...

@JulienJou @MasatoToys This is gibberish. You didn’t discover 1.22 in the horizon formula, you inserted it by multiplying and dividing the equation, then pretended the inserted number had physical meaning.

@JulienJou @MasatoToys You have no idea how to calculate the distance to the horizon a globe do you? The algebraic simplification comes out to The 1.22 is just √(2R/5280) with R in miles

Isn't the appeal of FE it being "simple and observable". What about this is simple and observable.

Wow. This is amazing.

how you doing? i haven't seen you around

Oh I been buried in the shadows banned I bet 🙄🫡😂

Amzing thank u

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

How am I able to connect that map and test it? Where’s the link for it? Great work! Love it

Show tab, Then 'Map Projection'

I believe I need to be on desktop to do this. I’m on iPhone

AHHH yes we still have done zero testing with mobile. LOL we are computer lads. Work in progress

Yeah no worries I’m on desktop also thanks. Great work! You have Facebook TikTok? I want to follow your work

Sure. been tearing it up on facebook in these FE groups. brand new # 3 on tiktok LOL

Can you make an app out of this? Id definitely buy it ❤️

Gee, yet more made up unprovable bullshit

Quick question: Your model place Acrux, from the Southern Cross, here. Explain how a guy from Perth can see it at this specific time looking south. Thanks!