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new Gemini 4 Pro checkpoint is here and is looking a lot better this car prompt took roughly 2-3 mins, and is being ghost tested under 3.8 flash it’s a random encounter when in battle mode on arena ai using 3.8 flash and you can only judge by the... show more

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IDK3 days ago

It's a good thing, but... Let's compare it with real Gemini 3.8 flash vs Gemini 4 (this checkpoint) How clear are the differences?

Qwinah3 days ago

3.8 flash couldn’t create this quality of render, you are right tho I will get a 3.8 flash version to showcase this

Singularity3 days ago

Gemini 4 Pro

Qwinah3 days ago

You reckon? Just found its internal name to be Argon

Singularity3 days ago

Maybe, but it still feels like close to Fable 5 level.

J A Z I I3 days ago

bro is cooking harder

Qwinah3 days ago

harder than ever bro 😂

AKHIL3 days ago

I don't think so it's gemini 4

Qwinah3 days ago

Just found the internal code name being Argon

CruxLog3 days ago

If this is gemini 4 then it's again another disappointment, astra and fable 5.1 can generate better output then this, so again it's not gonna be frontier.

Ke3 days ago

Lego? 🤡

tolgaozisik3 days ago

this is clearly 3.9 flash

Qwinah3 days ago

What makes you say that?

tolgaozisik3 days ago

I know some model behaviours and this is strongly flash model. Gemini 4.0 will be really different ground up.

Sophia3 days ago

Seems like 3.9 flash not 4 pro

xalid3 days ago

Its not Gemini 4 pro

Qwinah3 days ago

How not?

Javier Jiménez3 days ago

Uy si Fanboy de Google espera que salga al público y será una mierda como todo su modelo anteriores

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32,907 views • 3 days ago

I dare you to recreate this!! Made by Gemini 3.8 Flash.. Just told it that make me a beachfront scenery path with mountains on the other side made only with random strokes of lines. this is so abstract and honestly impressive Gemini 3.8 Flash is goated in making abstract art!

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15,354 views • 15 days ago

Gemini 3.8 Flash vs Opus 5 same prompt to each model and i wasn't expecting gemini 3.8 flash to be this fast! build time: > Opus 5: 24 minutes > 3.8 Flash: 37 seconds 💀 if gemini is given same time as opus 5 it will mog the hell out of opus in terms of quality too which one would you choose here?

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76,604 views • 17 days ago

Just tried Gemini 3.8 Flash and wow, I’m genuinely impressed, It finished everything in under 2 minutes and the quality was way better than I expected, For now it’s only in Chat, but it should be coming to Antigravity and AI Studio later, Really excited to test it there too!

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55,857 views • 18 days ago

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62,603 views • 10 days ago

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328,782 views • 1 day ago

So this is the result of Gemini 4 Pro hiding under the name “Gemini 3.8 Flash” 🙄 I tried this so called rumored “Gemini 4 Pro” against famous "V8 Engine" demo from X and no, this is definitely not what all those posts about Gemini 4 Pro supposedly topping Arena benchmarks made it sound like. It does feel better than any Gemini model I’ve used so far, but it’s still not there. I wouldn’t even put it at Opus 5 level yet. Not sure what this hype is about, tbh.

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The Bugged Dev

28,122 views • 2 days ago

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thehype.

26,360 views • 22 days ago

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316,405 views • 2 years ago

Gemini Flash 3.8 beats Opus 5 at at 15× lower price the test: four self-contained three.js physics scenes — a balloon popped by a needle, a ball dropping into water, a bomb with a mushroom cloud, a live atom model. 5 seconds each, real gravity, real impact. cost: Gemini 3.8 Flash — $0.12 Claude Opus 5 — $1.86 what we saw: • gemini passes the same physics checklist for 15× less — the ball sinks and bobs, ripples spread, the mushroom towers over the scene • gemini is 4× faster — every scene generated in under 70 seconds. opus took up to 5 minutes try Gemini 3.8 Flash on aimlapi[.]com

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114,110 views • 18 days ago

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301,841 views • 1 month ago

Mission Report is out! We have a lot of product highlights and updates this episode. Also we've been shipping models so fast that this was filmed before Gemini 3.8 Flash was ready and announced. We will cover that model in the next Mission Report.

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Google Antigravity

64,677 views • 15 days ago

Gemini 3.8 Flash is hardwired for complex reasoning. ⚙️ To test its skills, we built an interactive 3D visualizer with 3.8 Flash and Three.js in Google AI Studio. Watch the model generate realistic, physically-proportioned teardowns for hardware devices. It automatically decomposes devices into layers that users can explode and inspect with a deconstruction slider.

Gemini 3.8 Flash is hardwired for complex reasoning. ⚙️ To test its skills, we built an interactive 3D visualizer with 3.8 Flash and Three.js in Google AI Studio. Watch the model generate realistic, physically-proportioned teardowns for hardware devices. It automatically decomposes devices into layers that users can explode and inspect with a deconstruction slider.

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621,407 views • 18 days ago

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128,202 views • 11 days ago

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71,417 views • 10 months ago

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71,303 views • 9 months ago

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39,692 views • 10 days ago

gemini 3 flash is so crazy.. it can generate code for an interactive 3d car racing game in ~1 min, control speed and direction with hands, no need code, just text prompts its 100% free & a lot faster than 3 pro how to improve this, anyone?

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114,398 views • 9 months ago