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New Opus 4.8 crashed Opus 4.7 at physics on canvas! We gave both models the same three prompts: simulate a real physics phenomenon on raw HTML5 canvas. Prompt 1: "A triple pendulum swings into chaos and paints glowing trails with its tip" Prompt 2: "A 1 kg block bounces... show more

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Hugo Plat4 个月前

thanks I’ll buy Opus 4.8 to pass my physics exam

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atomic.chat4 个月前

@the_great_hug0 the right decision!

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Chandraprakash Darji4 个月前

This is the result from sonnet with medium thinking

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atomic.chat4 个月前

Sonnet did solid job here

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Chandraprakash Darji4 个月前

I think it is better then 4.7

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LiberalSismo4 个月前

Now gives us examples about something that we would use in real life and not for just make an X post.

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Shounak Das4 个月前

Skill Issue

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Hutch, D.O.4 个月前

Fun exercise. Thought I'd have my agent Sirius give it a shot. What I think he did pretty good. @OpenAIDevs

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atomic.chat4 个月前

@OpenAIDevs sirius did pretty well! Appreciate seeing builders run the same experiment with their own agents :))

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iksammy14 个月前

Impressive

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cws test4 个月前

nice

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Alexander Benz4 个月前

The pendulum test is the best physics benchmark I've seen. Canvas code that produces realistic chaos requires actually modeling the system, not just pattern-matching from training data.

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atomic.chat4 个月前

exactly! and fake motion vs real chaotic dynamics shows up immediately

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Venkatesh4 个月前

For these comparisons you need to launch opus 4.7 2x times vs opus 4.8 2x. You could be just looking at run to run variations of how these LLMs work.

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insightformer4 个月前

Very interesting comparison visualizations. It clearly shows the differences between the models.

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WeSee4 个月前

We're slowly reaching the point where model upgrades feel less like "better chat" and more like software evolution.

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Tech With Matteo4 个月前

the pendulum one is wild, i use Opus daily for coding and the jump from 4.7 to 4.8 on complex stuff is pretty noticeable

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rpello4 个月前

Have these prompts run on each model’s release date? Or have you used a today’s 4.7 (crippled) version?

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atomic.chat4 个月前

opus 4.7 is crippled:))

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Samir Patil4 个月前

4.8 is wild 🔥 Built Claude Pulse for exactly this — live KV cache timer + usage right on claude .ai.

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BruzWJ4 个月前

tbh the triple pendulum render looks slick but a canvas physics demo doesnt really tell me if the model holds up on actual coding work

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Cristobal Santana4 个月前

Nice. The pi-digits collision one is a good test because it needs exact physics, not just something that looks plausible. Curious whether it holds up on messier problems like fluids or soft-body collisions, where the math gets harder to fake visually.

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Sathish Harry4 个月前

992 isn't a random number. The Galperin billiard: collisions ≈ π × √(M/m). With a 100,000:1 mass ratio, that's π × 316 ≈ 993. Opus 4.8 essentially solved the physics. 4.7 got 241 not even close. The benchmark is the whole point.

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Rohit4 个月前

That's impressive! It's fascinating to see how Opus 4.8 handles complex physics simulations. Looking forward to more insights from your comparisons.

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atomic.chat4 个月前

@ai_rohitt glad you enjoyed it! More side by side runs on the way

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Sebastian Buzdugan4 个月前

did either use a fixed timestep because variable dt usually makes canvas physics demos lie

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Build with Jeje4 个月前

opus 4.8 math model is so great. only the limit sucks 😔

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GiovanniArturi3 个月前

Sorry, but what as to do Opus with local AI models? It can only run remotely on Anthropic servers via APIs.

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🐺 steve 🐺4 个月前

CC @RayKurz

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Noureddine4 个月前

4.8 crashing on physics implies an over-eager alignment filter. Complex simulations can hit safety boundaries if intermediate steps are misinterpreted as harmful or exploit prompts.

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Gia huy4 个月前

本当に面白そう！バージョン4.8がバージョン4.7を打ち負かしたんだね。どんな物理現象が再現されているんだろう？楽しみ！

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Ex0 Byte4 个月前

i want to use this to improve my memory system! can i use atomic chat to benchmark my self improving memory system?

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Ziv Chen4 个月前

Should it be Opus 4.8 or 4.6? Opus 4.7 has received mixed reviews.

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Life Around Earth4 个月前

the detail in that pendulum prompt is actually a solid benchmark for chaos visualization

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atomic.chat4 个月前

Yeeah, exactly why we picked it!

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Blum4 个月前

wild how clearly opus 4.8 dominates 4.7 here

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AIじいさん4 个月前

壁を通りぬけるのは面白いんじゃ🤣

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Theoden4 个月前

We definitely should see more hard, thick balls hitting the wall more often

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Snowdog_base3 个月前

Snowdog has been watching this for 3 hours. 🐾❄️ Not the physics. Not the AI benchmark. Just the bouncing balls. 🟡 Same energy as staring at snow falling at 3am. ❄️🍯 $SD #Snowdog

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247,923 次观看 • 1 年前

So Runway Gen 4.5 finally adds image-to-video, the workflow most pros rely on for consistency. We put it head to head with Kling AI and Google Flow VEO using the same reference images and prompts (below) to evaluate motion quality, stability, and cinematic realism. 1. Action/WaterPhysics Test Prompt: Cinematic, wide-shot of a man running in a shallow river. The camera is tracking the man from behind as he runs up the river. Handheld camera shake as the camera follows the man. 2. Fire Physics Test Prompt: Cinematic, wide-shot of terrified woman running towards her burning barn. She abruptly stops, and puts in hands on her head as she watches her barn burn down. 3. VFX test prompt: Cinematic, wide-shot of a hooded figure. Flashes of purple magic and smoke whirl around the figure. The figure lifts its arms as the purple magic and smoke intensifies. 4. 2D Animation Test Prompt: 2D animated shot of a waiting at a bus stop in a thunderstorm. The man turns, walks to the bench, and sits down. 5. 3D Animation Test Prompt: 3D animated shot of an octopus. The octopus reaches into a coral and picks up a glowing white gem. 6. Conversation Test Prompt: slow camera push-in as two friends are having a conversation at a coffee shop Overall verdict: Despite the “world’s best” claim, Runway Gen 4.5 is not there yet. Prompt adherence is solid, but motion, physics, and cinematic realism still lag behind tools like Kling and VEO. Great platform, mid-tier model for now.

So Runway Gen 4.5 finally adds image-to-video, the workflow most pros rely on for consistency. We put it head to head with Kling AI and Google Flow VEO using the same reference images and prompts (below) to evaluate motion quality, stability, and cinematic realism. 1. Action/WaterPhysics Test Prompt: Cinematic, wide-shot of a man running in a shallow river. The camera is tracking the man from behind as he runs up the river. Handheld camera shake as the camera follows the man. 2. Fire Physics Test Prompt: Cinematic, wide-shot of terrified woman running towards her burning barn. She abruptly stops, and puts in hands on her head as she watches her barn burn down. 3. VFX test prompt: Cinematic, wide-shot of a hooded figure. Flashes of purple magic and smoke whirl around the figure. The figure lifts its arms as the purple magic and smoke intensifies. 4. 2D Animation Test Prompt: 2D animated shot of a waiting at a bus stop in a thunderstorm. The man turns, walks to the bench, and sits down. 5. 3D Animation Test Prompt: 3D animated shot of an octopus. The octopus reaches into a coral and picks up a glowing white gem. 6. Conversation Test Prompt: slow camera push-in as two friends are having a conversation at a coffee shop Overall verdict: Despite the “world’s best” claim, Runway Gen 4.5 is not there yet. Prompt adherence is solid, but motion, physics, and cinematic realism still lag behind tools like Kling and VEO. Great platform, mid-tier model for now.

Curious Refuge

25,712 次观看 • 8 个月前

We ran a test between the new Qwen3.8-Max, Opus 5 and GPT-5.6 Sol. 3 models. same prompt. one-shot with the /design command. Reviewed gameplay features, UX/UI and cost. 🔹 Qwen3.8-Max → 9/10 · $0.0248 🔹 GPT-5.6 Sol → 9/10 · $0.150 🔹 Opus 5 → 8.5/10 · $0.253 Qwen3.8-Max is approximately 4.2× cheaper than GPT-5.6, Sol, Opus 5 and has the same level of UI, UX, and gameplay.

We ran a test between the new Qwen3.8-Max, Opus 5 and GPT-5.6 Sol. 3 models. same prompt. one-shot with the /design command. Reviewed gameplay features, UX/UI and cost. 🔹 Qwen3.8-Max → 9/10 · $0.0248 🔹 GPT-5.6 Sol → 9/10 · $0.150 🔹 Opus 5 → 8.5/10 · $0.253 Qwen3.8-Max is approximately 4.2× cheaper than GPT-5.6, Sol, Opus 5 and has the same level of UI, UX, and gameplay.

Command Code

179,535 次观看 • 1 个月前

Prompt: Create an interactive New Year's Eve fireworks display using HTML/CSS/JS in a single HTML file. When the user clicks, a rocket should launch and explode into colorful particles with gravity and drag physics. Include a 'Grand Finale' button that automatically launches a barrage of fireworks that form the glowing text 'HELLO 2026' in the sky.

Prompt: Create an interactive New Year's Eve fireworks display using HTML/CSS/JS in a single HTML file. When the user clicks, a rocket should launch and explode into colorful particles with gravity and drag physics. Include a 'Grand Finale' button that automatically launches a barrage of fireworks that form the glowing text 'HELLO 2026' in the sky.

Diego | AI 🚀 - e/acc

34,210 次观看 • 9 个月前

A brush full of dreams, a night full of stars, and a town transformed by magic.🪄🎨 Created it on FlovaAI PROMPT: 3D style animation. A cozy, cluttered attic art studio filled with glowing potion bottles, sketches pinned to the walls, and warm light streaming through a large circular window. A young female artist with her hair in a messy bun, wearing an apron, paints on an easel. The painting of a glowing creature magically comes to life, leaping off the canvas as a vibrant, translucent creature made of swirling iridescent cosmic light and sparkles. The creature runs out into a cobblestone European village square at night, leaving a trail of glowing rainbows and magical stardust that transforms the town, ending with the night sky swirling into a beautiful, vibrant Starry Night style pattern. Whimsical, magical, high-end digital animation, warm and cinematic lighting. #Flovaai #Flovacpp

A brush full of dreams, a night full of stars, and a town transformed by magic.🪄🎨 Created it on FlovaAI PROMPT: 3D style animation. A cozy, cluttered attic art studio filled with glowing potion bottles, sketches pinned to the walls, and warm light streaming through a large circular window. A young female artist with her hair in a messy bun, wearing an apron, paints on an easel. The painting of a glowing creature magically comes to life, leaping off the canvas as a vibrant, translucent creature made of swirling iridescent cosmic light and sparkles. The creature runs out into a cobblestone European village square at night, leaving a trail of glowing rainbows and magical stardust that transforms the town, ending with the night sky swirling into a beautiful, vibrant Starry Night style pattern. Whimsical, magical, high-end digital animation, warm and cinematic lighting. #Flovaai #Flovacpp

Soulful Ai

28,560 次观看 • 3 个月前

$This is F**king dangerous Someone figured out how to get dramatically sharper reasoning out of Opus 4.8 with one setup. Here is how: Ask Claude to write you an "operating manual" for how it should reason through your work Create a new Claude Project and paste that .md into the Project instructions Run Opus 4.8 on High or Max effort Now the model reasons against a real framework instead of improvising every response. Same model. Far better output. And Opus 4.8 already costs a fraction of Fable 5. Save and bookmark this. Follow CyrilXBT$

This is F**king dangerous Someone figured out how to get dramatically sharper reasoning out of Opus 4.8 with one setup. Here is how: Ask Claude to write you an "operating manual" for how it should reason through your work Create a new Claude Project and paste that .md into the Project instructions Run Opus 4.8 on High or Max effort Now the model reasons against a real framework instead of improvising every response. Same model. Far better output. And Opus 4.8 already costs a fraction of Fable 5. Save and bookmark this. Follow CyrilXBT

CyrilXBT

198,085 次观看 • 2 个月前