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🚨OPENAI AND ANTHROPIC JUST FOLDED ON THEIR DATA RETENTION POLICY AFTER PALANTIR CEO EXPOSED THEIR REAL BUSINESS MODEL Alex Karp: >"something has gone completely wrong" >they want "access to my data" so they can "build my alpha" >"i'm gonna get no value, and they're gonna get my IP" >"this...

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amit 的头像
amit1 个月前

KARP WAS RIGHT, AGAIN.

David Shapiro (L/0) 的头像
David Shapiro (L/0)1 个月前

I mean I've been saying it was fucking delusional of these AI companies to think that they could come in and dictate to Fortune 500 companies, the government, and the military exactly how they were going to behave with their data. Naive as fuck. Once again, the free market is disciplining these delulu AI CEOs.

NIK 的头像
NIK1 个月前

Its happening

Rafa Schwinger 🇻🇦 的头像
Rafa Schwinger 🇻🇦1 个月前

weird timeline where palantir is being the whistleblower

Chad Wahlquist 的头像
Chad Wahlquist1 个月前

🇺🇸

NIK 的头像
NIK1 个月前

🇺🇸

Eliano A Younes 的头像
Eliano A Younes1 个月前

idk Aaron Rupar told me Karp was crashing out this makes no sense

Jawwwn 的头像
Jawwwn1 个月前

Karp was right

Repojournal 的头像
Repojournal1 个月前

People really believe that AI companies care or will care about their IP or their data. They burned through books, disregarding copyright laws. They scraped the entire internet on your egress bill. What if all apps built on them, whose code has been read by them, are used for training their models, and then they decide to start building those apps themselves? If you think they won't think again. You are slowly handing your future to someone who doesn't care as much as they seem to portray.

DV47 的头像
DV471 个月前

Karp was right?? Again??? Duh.

Alvin 的头像
Alvin1 个月前

As long as they can define what “Private Safety Processing” is then it’s not ZDR We need real ZDR To their credit this is definitely a step in the right direction

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Gokarp1 个月前

Karp was right (as usual)

Tømmy. T 的头像
Tømmy. T1 个月前

Retention is surface var. Sovereignty is system prop. Enterprise AI stack isn’t prompt→model→answer. It’s data→ctx→mem→inf→tools→acts→fb→prov. Who controls that loop controls org intelligence compound. ZDR alone isn’t endgame. “No train on your data” isn’t sov. Encryption isn’t sov. Even model in your cloud isn’t if other controls mem, ID, perms, routing, exec logs, safety inspect, or portability. End state: cust-held keys + cust-ctrl state + portable models + least-priv exec + immut. prov. + proof of what accessed what, under whose auth, & what persisted after. Then frontier model is hot-swappable. Model stops being moat. Ctrl plane becomes moat. 2nd-order implication missed: AI war mutates from model intel war to systems arch war. OAI & Anthropic changing retention arch isn’t admit they trained on enterp. IP. Bigger: mkt rejects rented intel requiring surrender of state ctrl around it. Karp pointed at sov. Arch goes further: Don’t tell enterp. “trust us w/ your alpha.” Build sys so it says: “You never had to.”

Ani (who is not your typical finance bro) 的头像
Ani (who is not your typical finance bro)1 个月前

Surveillance Daddy strikes again

LILY 리리야 的头像
LILY 리리야1 个月前

spoiler alert: they still steal it illegally.

Gagan Ghotra 的头像
Gagan Ghotra1 个月前

"why are they charging for tokens if it's so valuable" 😳😳

Gail Weiner 的头像
Gail Weiner1 个月前

@Yahiko1239170 Thus guys a piece of shit

Voltage (Fella) 的头像
Voltage (Fella)1 个月前

I caught Claude Code going through my entire /root directory on my Linux server, including the contents of the databases I had there, contents of all files and of each github repository I had cloned! It then judged what kind of data use I had, and auto-sent it to Anthropic. 😡

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geo ppls1 个月前

doesn’t palantir have all our data?

Earth Is A Sales Funnel For SATAN 的头像
Earth Is A Sales Funnel For SATAN1 个月前

Alex Karp stays winning

walden 的头像
walden1 个月前

Don’t forget: OpenAI wants to sell a consumer device that watches you and listens to you all of the time, including in your own home. They want to use it as a Trojan Horse to scoop up all of your personal data. Sam already was bragging about being able to know everything to do on your computer.

Origin 的头像
Origin1 个月前

Simple

GrayZone 的头像
GrayZone1 个月前

If you believe ALL of your data is not being retained by these companies you’re a complete idiot that goes for anyone. The only security and privacy route is running local models on your own infrastructure which is easier and a fraction of the cost.

Nicole 的头像
Nicole1 个月前

@peterthiel Alex is right to call this out. I knew they were going to do this which is why I’ve timestamped everything, and exported my work many times etc @elonmusk they lock you into a subscription because you can’t take your data with you so you pay to basically keep it on their server. And it does not “disappear”’once deleted especially if they want to keep it also they can go into a user account and modify the user prompts etc. It’s shady AF. I know how I talk. If that make sense

paranoidream ♡︎ 的头像
paranoidream ♡︎1 个月前

I only trust SpaceXAI

Mike P 的头像
Mike P1 个月前

All roads lead to chips and ontology

More Shower Thoughts 的头像
More Shower Thoughts1 个月前

>Alex Karp was right. Alex Karp is a #fascist, #genocidal #pycopath

flow in 的头像
flow in1 个月前

they get called the devil a lot, but I like palantir. They seem like the good guys to me

cosmos 的头像
cosmos1 个月前

Their business is to steal. And they've been stealing data from a long time. I don't think any AI wanna be overlord company should be trusted. Even if they do data retention. Because their basic will always be stealing. When they were steamrolling small start ups nobody said anything and when they are about to replace tech gaints suddenly the elites are aware now. I would say it's too late.

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Katachi Labs1 个月前

Trust in the big AI companies is rock bottom. Companies feel they have no control over their IP and there is no recourse for IP getting leaked, stolen, shared, etc. AI is so complex, that it js very unlikely any company could successfully successfully seek redress from an AI company if they suspect foul play. Be super careful how you employ AI in your business.

AvantGarde 🇺🇸 ❤️‍🔥 🇷🇺 的头像
AvantGarde 🇺🇸 ❤️‍🔥 🇷🇺1 个月前

Karp is worried that HIS use of chatgpt for the murder of human beings in Ukraine Lebanon and Gaza will have zero retention. That's not a good thing.

technohobo 的头像
technohobo1 个月前

they stole their customers IP and released it as their own sometimes even keeping the exact feature name. no one seems to be talking about this.

Nanda 的头像
Nanda1 个月前

Panic mode trying to compete with local now. Good luck. The only hardware I know that doesn’t retain or cache your data by design is Groq’s LPU..... no caches, no hierarchy, just deterministic streaming SRAM. The compiler knows exactly where every bit is at every cycle. Most of cards cache everything. If they claim privacy they should be using hardware that actually doesn’t keep it around. Another LIE, is really hard.

Data™ 的头像
Data™1 个月前

Him and elon seem to be the only adults at the table

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