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OpenClaw 2.0 is available on Atomic Bot! We ran a battle: OpenClaw 2.0 vs Hermes Agent on GLM 5.3. Four prompts: movie scenes with the OpenClaw mascot in the lead role. Outputs: OpenClaw 2.0: ~2.1M tokens, ~$4.5, 10 self-fixes Hermes Agent: ~2.9M tokens, ~$4, 20 self-fixes OpenClaw screenshotted its...

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Qwen3.8-Max became the brain of Atomic Agent, Hermes and OpenClaw. We gave the same task: Turn a photo of a hand-drawn floor plan into an interactive 3D walkthrough of that apartment and open it in the browser. Outputs: – Atomic Agent: 66 min, 557K tokens, $2.01 – OpenClaw: 32 min, 1.2M tokens, $1.12 – Hermes: 2 h 14 min, 4.2M tokens, $6.42 Before the start we leveled the field: one model endpoint, equal step and token budgets, equal timeouts, full autonomy, memory wiped on all three. Atomic Agent reads images through its vision tool, so it interrogated the sketch 14 times until every room, door and window turned into data. Then it drafted the whole scene in its head six times, threw away five drafts, and wrote the finished 19.8 KB file in one single write. After that it opened Chrome, checked its own render, and only then replied. The only agent of the three that verified its work, and the only one that stopped on its own. OpenClaw was twice as fast and the cheapest of the three, but its image tool kept timing out mid-run, and it shipped the palest apartment of the day: white rooms, no floor colors, one texture visibly glitched, and furniture you have to squint to find. It read the full plan three times, cut 11 room crops, wrote the scene in chunks, and landed the fastest and cheapest apartment of the day in 32 minutes. Then it kept polishing the finished file until we pulled the plug. Hermes worked the longest: two hours, 97 model calls, 4.2M tokens, and the apartment came out wrong anyway: doors standing loose in the middle of rooms, a 2 by 1.8 bath sprawled across a quarter of the flat, furniture drifting away from the plan. It measured everything twice and still built the least accurate apartment. Atomic Agent will run Qwen3.8-27B locally on day zero, next week!

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HERMES AGENT VS OPENCLAW. a local ai onboarding flow test. a 3.9gb bonsai served on localhost, both agents upstream and latest, i point each one at the endpoint and watch which one even finds it. > hermes opens a provider menu, thirty plus options, local servers sitting right there next to the cloud ones, i hand it 127.0.0.1:8899, it verifies the endpoint, one model visible, auto-detects the model by name, bonsai-27b-q1_0, reads the context length straight off the server, saves it, and starts reasoning and firing real tool calls on my local model. no key. no friction. > openclaw has no menu. it goes hunting for a codex login, an openai key, finds none because there are none, prints no models available three times, defaults to openai/gpt-5.5, a cloud model it cannot reach, and dead ends on run auth login --provider openai. read that back. it asked me for an openai key. to run a model already running on my own machine. it never once looked at localhost. to be fair, openclaw can run local if you hand wire endpoint yourself. what it will not do is find the model already sitting on your box. hermes agent found it in one line. now the part i owe you. the auto-detect that just won, the model name read, the .gguf strip, the context length probe off the server, that is my code, it is in hermes agent main right now, authorship preserved, #2051 and #4218. the wizard fix that stops an agent from silently routing you to someone else's creds, the exact trap openclaw still falls into, mine too, #4210. i contribute to hermes agent, i told you that going in. one agent is built to talk to whatever you are running, the other is built to talk to a cloud api, so one found my model and ran it and the other asked me to log into openai. onboarding flow of both, mapped, below.

Sudo su

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Introducing Open Source AI CRM, that runs on your OpenClaw. A few weeks ago, we launched Ironclaw (An Open Source OpenClaw CRM Framework) which now has around 1.4k stars. A lot of people confused us with NearAI’s Ironclaw, so we changed our name to DenchClaw. OpenClaw today feels a lot like early React: the primitive is incredibly powerful, but the patterns are still forming, and everyone is piecing together their own way to actually use it. What made React explode wasn’t just React itself, but the emergence of frameworks like Gatsby and Next.js that turned raw capability into something opinionated, repeatable, and easy to adopt. That is how I think about DenchClaw. We are not just building on top of OpenClaw; we are trying to make it one of the clearest, most practical, and most complete ways to use OpenClaw in the real world. We are an OpenClaw Framework, we are aiming to be the most correct way to use OpenClaw. We entered Y Combinator with Merse (AI Audio Comic), it was an app that I personally never used. Michael Seibel confronted us on it, and said, “if you aren’t the best user of your consumer app, then who is?”. I now use DenchClaw daily for everything I do, it also works as a coding agent like Cursor, DenchClaw built DenchClaw. I am addicted to DenchClaw now that I can ask it, “hey in the companies table only show me the ones who have more than 5 employees” and it updates it live than me having to manually add a filter. On Dench, everything sits in a file system, the table filters, views, column toggles, calendar/gantt views, etc, so OpenClaw can directly work with it using Dench’s CRM skill. The CRM is built on top of DuckDB, the smallest, most performant and at the same time also feature rich database we could find. It creates a new OpenClaw🦞 profile called “dench”, and opens a new OpenClaw Gateway… that means you can run all your usual openclaw commands by just prefixing every command with `openclaw --profile dench` . It will start your gateway on port 19001 range. You will be able to access the DenchClaw frontend at localhost:3100. Once you open it on Safari, just add it to your Dock to use it as a PWA. Think of it as Cursor for your Mac which is based on OpenClaw. DenchClaw has a file tree view for you to use it as an elevated finder tool to do anything on your mac. I use it to create slides, do LinkedIn outreach using MY browser. DenchClaw sees what you see, does what you do. It’s the everything app, that sits locally on your mac. All yours. Just ask it “hey import my notion”, “hey import everything from my hubspot”, and it will literally go into your browser, export all objects and documents and put it in its own workspace that you can use. P.S. It comes with Garry Tan's GStack built in.

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OpenClaw meets RL! OpenClaw Agents adapt through memory files and skills, but the base model weights never actually change. OpenClaw-RL solves this! It wraps a self-hosted model as an OpenAI-compatible API, intercepts live conversations from OpenClaw, and trains the policy in the background using RL. The architecture is fully async. This means serving, reward scoring, and training all run in parallel. Once done, weights get hot-swapped after every batch while the agent keeps responding. Currently, it has two training modes: - Binary RL (GRPO): A process reward model scores each turn as good, bad, or neutral. That scalar reward drives policy updates via a PPO-style clipped objective. - On-Policy Distillation: When concrete corrections come in like "you should have checked that file first," it uses that feedback as a richer, directional training signal at the token level. When to use OpenClaw-RL? To be fair, a lot of agent behavior can already be improved through better memory and skill design. OpenClaw's existing skill ecosystem and community-built self-improvement skills handle a wide range of use cases without touching model weights at all. If the agent keeps forgetting preferences, that's a memory problem. And if it doesn't know how to handle a specific workflow, that's a skill problem. Both are solvable at the prompt and context layer. Where RL becomes interesting is when the failure pattern lives deeper in the model's reasoning itself. Things like consistently poor tool selection order, weak multi-step planning, or failing to interpret ambiguous instructions the way a specific user intends. Research on agentic RL (like ARTIST and Agent-R1) has shown that these behavioral patterns hit a ceiling with prompt-based approaches alone, especially in complex multi-turn tasks where the model needs to recover from tool failures or adapt its strategy mid-execution. That's the layer OpenClaw-RL targets, and it's a meaningful distinction from what OpenClaw offers. I have shared the repo in the replies!

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Atomic Agent beat Hermes on GAIA: 69.8% vs 58.5%, and it was 1.6x faster! We ran both agents through the full GAIA Level 1 benchmark, 53 real-world tasks, same 4-bit qwen-3.6-35b on the same Apple M4 Max. Results: ✦ Atomic Agent: 37 of 53 solved, done in 3h 12m ✦ Hermes Agent: 31 of 53 solved, took 5h 10m Atomic solved 6 more tasks and finished nearly 2 hours sooner. Hermes ran into the 900s timeout on 7 tasks; Atomic on just 2. Hermes burned 71% of its total time on tasks it still failed, Atomic, 48%. Where it showed: ✦ Audre Lorde poem, which stanza is indented: Atomic pushed through a dead source, switched tools, and answered in 7.6 min. Hermes ran the full clock and returned a blank. ✦ Vietnamese specimens, which city they ended up in: Atomic pulled it from the first source and normalized the answer in 33s. Hermes spent 7.3 min and never answered. ✦ The dinosaur featured-article nominator: Atomic walked the Wikipedia chain to "FunkMonk" in 57s. Hermes guessed a wrong name after 11 min. Atomic keeps a byte-stable prompt prefix, so llama-server reuses the KV-cache instead of re-encoding the whole context every turn, and it emits one JSON array of tool calls per inference, then compresses results back instead of pasting them in full, so the context never balloons and a small model stays sharp deep into a task. On top of that a no-progress guard vetoes repeated identical tool calls (warn at 3, hard veto at 5) and forces a reply, so Atomic never sinks 15 minutes into re-scanning one page the way Hermes did. Both agents missed some of the same questions, and on a few Hermes got there and Atomic did not, usually format slips where Atomic computed the right number but printed the working instead of the bare value. But on identical hardware and identical weights, the runtime that reuses its cache and refuses to spin came out ahead on accuracy and speed. Getting this from the runtime alone is wild. Run the same 53 GAIA tasks on Atomic Agent!

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YanXbt

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If you do not set up your OpenClaw correctly, it's going to SUCK It will do tasks poorly, not remember anything, and not be proactive Here are the 5 things you need to do right away to turn your OpenClaw into AGI (demos of each in the video below) 1. Brain dump: your OpenClaw won't know how to accomplish your goals for you, if it doesn't know your goals If you haven't yet, you want to tell your OpenClaw: • Your interests • Your career • Your goals • Your ambitions • Anything personal Do this, and your Claw will have the context to be SUPER powerful for you 2. Connect your tools Your OpenClaw can basically use almost every tool you use on your computer You just need to ask it to Ask your OpenClaw to connect to any tools you use daily, and it will just figure out how to do it. Then create a skill for it I have it check my Things 3 todo list every morning and complete any tasks it can 3. Build a Mission Control Your mission control is just a hub for your OpenClaw to build custom tooling Ask your OpenClaw to build a Mission Control using NextJS Then anytime your bot doesn't have the tool available to do a task, have it build it in your Mission Control 4. Mission Statement Your OpenClaw needs a mission statement This is the one sentence statement that will be the north star for every single thing it does It should be based on your goals and ambitions. My Claw's mission statement is "“An autonomous organization of AI agents that does work for me and produces value 24/7” Make your own and have your Claw put it at the top of your Mission Control. Now every task your Claw does will take you closer to this statement 5. Make it proactive Your OpenClaw won't be proactive unless you set those expectations with it Tell your Claw you want it to do a task every night at 2am that brings you one step closer to your mission statement Now every morning you'll wake up and it will do something that surprises you and helps bring you closer to your goals Do these 5 things and your OpenClaw will be 10000x more powerful

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