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VanEck CEO Jan van Eck on CNBC: “There’s something else going on within the Bitcoin community that non-crypto people need to know about. And that is: ultimately, VanEck has been around before Bitcoin. We will walk away from Bitcoin if we think the thesis is fundamentally broken. We don’t right now, but you always have to look at the underlying technology and the crypto. What the Bitcoin community has been asking itself is: Is there enough encryption in Bitcoin, because quantum computing is coming? And secondly: Is there enough privacy in Bitcoin? And so a lot of Bitcoin OGs or maxis have been looking at Zcash. Zcash is a token. It’s sort of related to Bitcoin with a lot more privacy. The kind of garbage that we got about Bitcoin four years ago was: ‘It’s used for all bad illicit behavior.’ But now everyone kind of realizes that when you move money around on the Bitcoin blockchain, you can see it. You can see it move from one wallet to another. And a lot of people are looking for more privacy.”

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BITCOIN RAILS EPISODE #18: MAKE BITCOIN QUANTUM RESISTANT | with BIP360 author Hunter Beast Hunter Beast 🕯️ Quantum computing is a complicated topic—one that incites equal amounts of fear and skepticism depending on who you talk to… especially in Bitcoin. In this episode, BIP360 author Hunter Beast wisely shares why the “truth is likely somewhere in the middle,” citing incremental advancements in quantum computing that may eventually pose a legitimate threat to some Bitcoin addresses—as well as steps we can take to protect ourselves in the short, medium and long term. The correct posture is to “be prepared, not scared,” says Hunter Beast 🕯️ Ultimately, the introduction of quantum resistant cryptography—via proposals like BIP360—will be needed for higher degrees of security. That said, individuals can mitigate personal risk substantially through proper address-use hygiene. This episode breaks down the specific challenges Bitcoin will face in the event of a quantum attack, the likelihood of an attack over time, and the steps we’ll need to take at the individual and communal level to ensure Bitcoin’s safety. This episode includes detailed discussion of: 1) How quantum computing could potentially affect Bitcoin public/private key cryptography—and technologies built on vulnerable addresses (e.g. Taproot) 2) Best practices for protecting yourself against quantum in the short and long term 3) Implications of vulnerable address types—e.g. what about Satoshi’s coins? 4) Deep Dive into BIP360 + proposed long-term solutions 5) Industry roadmaps for quantum computing + how banks and governments are preparing for “Q Day” As always, this episode can be viewed on Spotify or YouTuve—full episode in the comments or linktree in my bio. This episode is powered by Best In Slot—the leading API for Ordinals and BRC20 data aggregation and indexing. TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 Intro 02:05 What is quantum computing? 04:30 How could quantum threaten your Bitcoin wallet? 06:50 Addresses that are safe from quantum 09:13 Satoshi’s coins are in danger! 11:25 What happens if Satoshi’s coins are touched? 14:45 Do we softfork to shield Satoshi’s coins? 16:38 “Transitory inflation” for bitcoin after quantum 21:05 Why Taproot addresses are vulnerable 23:50 Do NOT reuse your Bitcoin addresses! 26:03 When will Quantum become a threat? 28:34 The long/short exposure attack; explained 31:45 Protection using private mempools 33:20 Why all the new Bitcoin L2s are in danger 37:45 Quantum is 5 to 10 years away, governments fear 40:34 Non-Bitcoin systems threatened by quantum 42:26 Centralized systems can adapt to quantum 43:50 Hunter’s BIP: Post quantum cryptography in Bitcoin 47:40 Hunter’s three new signature algorithms 53:48 Is new cryptography on Bitcoin risky? 56:33 Why not just stick to hash-based cryptography? 58:49 A 16X discount for quantum resistant addresses? 01:02:30 Creating quantum resistant multisig addresses 01:04:00 What is Frost? 01:06:50 The long process of approving a BIP 01:08:30 What developers think of Hunter’s BIP 01:10:00 Matt Corallo’s concerns with Hunter’s approach 01:11:00 Steps to implementing the BIP 360 01:17:00 Where to learn more about BIP 360 01:17:50 Who can push the button to change Bitcoin?
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BITCOIN RAILS EPISODE #18: MAKE BITCOIN QUANTUM RESISTANT | with BIP360 author Hunter Beast Hunter Beast 🕯️ Quantum computing is a complicated topic—one that incites equal amounts of fear and skepticism depending on who you talk to… especially in Bitcoin. In this episode, BIP360 author Hunter Beast wisely shares why the “truth is likely somewhere in the middle,” citing incremental advancements in quantum computing that may eventually pose a legitimate threat to some Bitcoin addresses—as well as steps we can take to protect ourselves in the short, medium and long term. The correct posture is to “be prepared, not scared,” says Hunter Beast 🕯️ Ultimately, the introduction of quantum resistant cryptography—via proposals like BIP360—will be needed for higher degrees of security. That said, individuals can mitigate personal risk substantially through proper address-use hygiene. This episode breaks down the specific challenges Bitcoin will face in the event of a quantum attack, the likelihood of an attack over time, and the steps we’ll need to take at the individual and communal level to ensure Bitcoin’s safety. This episode includes detailed discussion of: 1) How quantum computing could potentially affect Bitcoin public/private key cryptography—and technologies built on vulnerable addresses (e.g. Taproot) 2) Best practices for protecting yourself against quantum in the short and long term 3) Implications of vulnerable address types—e.g. what about Satoshi’s coins? 4) Deep Dive into BIP360 + proposed long-term solutions 5) Industry roadmaps for quantum computing + how banks and governments are preparing for “Q Day” As always, this episode can be viewed on Spotify or YouTuve—full episode in the comments or linktree in my bio. This episode is powered by Best In Slot—the leading API for Ordinals and BRC20 data aggregation and indexing. TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 Intro 02:05 What is quantum computing? 04:30 How could quantum threaten your Bitcoin wallet? 06:50 Addresses that are safe from quantum 09:13 Satoshi’s coins are in danger! 11:25 What happens if Satoshi’s coins are touched? 14:45 Do we softfork to shield Satoshi’s coins? 16:38 “Transitory inflation” for bitcoin after quantum 21:05 Why Taproot addresses are vulnerable 23:50 Do NOT reuse your Bitcoin addresses! 26:03 When will Quantum become a threat? 28:34 The long/short exposure attack; explained 31:45 Protection using private mempools 33:20 Why all the new Bitcoin L2s are in danger 37:45 Quantum is 5 to 10 years away, governments fear 40:34 Non-Bitcoin systems threatened by quantum 42:26 Centralized systems can adapt to quantum 43:50 Hunter’s BIP: Post quantum cryptography in Bitcoin 47:40 Hunter’s three new signature algorithms 53:48 Is new cryptography on Bitcoin risky? 56:33 Why not just stick to hash-based cryptography? 58:49 A 16X discount for quantum resistant addresses? 01:02:30 Creating quantum resistant multisig addresses 01:04:00 What is Frost? 01:06:50 The long process of approving a BIP 01:08:30 What developers think of Hunter’s BIP 01:10:00 Matt Corallo’s concerns with Hunter’s approach 01:11:00 Steps to implementing the BIP 360 01:17:00 Where to learn more about BIP 360 01:17:50 Who can push the button to change Bitcoin?

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BREAKING: France just quietly started a countdown that affects every crypto holder. Its national cyber agency will no longer certify any security product. Without quantum-safe encryption after 2027. The announcement never mentions crypto. Not once. But here is what it doesn't have to say. Bitcoin and Ethereum both run on elliptic curve cryptography. The exact algorithm France just declared obsolete. This is the quantum threat nobody likes to talk about. The fear isn't that quantum computers crack Bitcoin tomorrow. It's a strategy called "harvest now, decrypt later." Adversaries collecting encrypted data today. Waiting for the machine that can crack it. When a major government formally rejects the encryption crypto relies on. It's a signal. The timeline is shifting from theoretical to scheduled. Don't panic. Bitcoin can upgrade to quantum-resistant cryptography. The developers know this is coming. But France just made one thing clear. The clock isn't hypothetical anymore. It's ticking. And the date is set.
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The Google and Caltech quantum papers demonstrated 2 breakthroughs: that Bitcoin cryptography is much easier to break than previously thought, and that far fewer logical qubits may be necessary for physical qubits. Project Eleven CEO Alex Pruden explains: "These two papers are not necessarily about a quantum computer that's bigger or more capable. They're about what it takes to break cryptography." "So what changed? One of the things that changed was that physicists and quantum cryptographers that looked at this problem for a long time studied an algorithm called RSA — an older cryptographic algorithm." "But that's not what really any blockchains use, because RSA keys are very large. It turns out, and this was one of the key upshots of the Google paper, that if you focus on the cryptography used by Bitcoin, Ethereum, and other networks, it's actually way easier to break than they thought it was, compared to RSA." "The other big breakthrough, and this is from the Caltech paper: Quantum computers are very fragile, generally. So to be useful, they need to have what's called error correction applied. And that can result in a lot of overhead. You need to have tons of physical qubits to get to one logical qubit." "This Caltech paper basically showed, 'Hey, we have some new ideas for error correction. And it turns out if we apply those, we don't need hundreds or thousands of physical qubits, maybe we just need a handful to make one logical cubit.'" "The headline of their paper is 'You may only need 10,000 physical qubits to run Shor's algorithm.' And by the way, they demonstrated 6,000 last year."
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The Google and Caltech quantum papers demonstrated 2 breakthroughs: that Bitcoin cryptography is much easier to break than previously thought, and that far fewer logical qubits may be necessary for physical qubits. Project Eleven CEO Alex Pruden explains: "These two papers are not necessarily about a quantum computer that's bigger or more capable. They're about what it takes to break cryptography." "So what changed? One of the things that changed was that physicists and quantum cryptographers that looked at this problem for a long time studied an algorithm called RSA — an older cryptographic algorithm." "But that's not what really any blockchains use, because RSA keys are very large. It turns out, and this was one of the key upshots of the Google paper, that if you focus on the cryptography used by Bitcoin, Ethereum, and other networks, it's actually way easier to break than they thought it was, compared to RSA." "The other big breakthrough, and this is from the Caltech paper: Quantum computers are very fragile, generally. So to be useful, they need to have what's called error correction applied. And that can result in a lot of overhead. You need to have tons of physical qubits to get to one logical qubit." "This Caltech paper basically showed, 'Hey, we have some new ideas for error correction. And it turns out if we apply those, we don't need hundreds or thousands of physical qubits, maybe we just need a handful to make one logical cubit.'" "The headline of their paper is 'You may only need 10,000 physical qubits to run Shor's algorithm.' And by the way, they demonstrated 6,000 last year."

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QUANTUM FEARS ARE FUD -- BITCOIN ISN’T EVEN CLOSE TO AT RISK Bitcoiners like Samson Mow are calling it out: today’s “quantum computers” can’t even solve basic problems without being fed hints -- they’re nowhere near cracking cryptography. The real timeline? 10–20 years, if ever. And here’s the part people miss -- if quantum ever becomes real, $BTC can upgrade fast, while the traditional financial system (banks, legacy security, government infra) is far more exposed. This isn’t a threat. It’s narrative-driven fear while the system quietly shifts on-chain.
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QUANTUM FEARS ARE FUD -- BITCOIN ISN’T EVEN CLOSE TO AT RISK Bitcoiners like Samson Mow are calling it out: today’s “quantum computers” can’t even solve basic problems without being fed hints -- they’re nowhere near cracking cryptography. The real timeline? 10–20 years, if ever. And here’s the part people miss -- if quantum ever becomes real, $BTC can upgrade fast, while the traditional financial system (banks, legacy security, government infra) is far more exposed. This isn’t a threat. It’s narrative-driven fear while the system quietly shifts on-chain.

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BITCOIN RAILS #34: Bitcoin’s Security & Quantum Risks—and the Future of Satoshi’s Coins | with Jameson Lopp Jameson Lopp “Most people don’t think about security until it’s too late,” says the Casa co-founder and CSO. One of the most prolific thought-leaders in Bitcoin security and privacy, there are few people who understand the nuances of Bitcoin security quite as deeply - not to mention the OPSEC practices required to protect against wrench attacks, for instance, which are rising globally as Bitcoin price increases. More recently, Lopp has turned his attention to mitigating Bitcoin’s quantum vulnerabilities, including market risks associated with quantum-vulnerable Satoshi’s Coins + longer-term strategies for quantum-hardening of Bitcoin addresses long term. In this special episode of Bitcoin Rails, we cover: - Lopp’s experiences designing self-custody products at both BitGo and Casa - The swatting attack he suffered in 2017, and the radical steps he’s taken to secure his home location since - The ‘quantum computing’ challenge for Bitcoin and its impacts on Satoshi’s Coins - How the network may respond to QCs in the face of ossification and why QC preparation may be the hardest governance test the network has ever faced This episode is powered by: - Best In Slot (Best in Slot | BRC2.0 🧑‍🍳), the leading API for Ordinals and BRC20 data aggregation and indexing - Spark (Lightspark), a statechains implementation leading the path towards institutional adoption of Bitcoin-powered payments - Citrea (Citrea), the leading Bitcoin Rollup technology and contributor to the BitVM alliance 📌 Timestamps 00:00 – Intro: Quantum Computing Meets Bitcoin 00:19 – Jameson Lopp on the Bitcoin Rails 00:53 – The Quantum Threat to Bitcoin Security 06:32 – Lopp’s Path into Bitcoin & Security 12:58 – The Swatting Attack During the Block Size Wars 25:28 – Could Quantum Crack Satoshi’s Coins? 43:55 – Announcements & Sponsors Messages 45:30 – Building Bitcoin’s Quantum Resistance 47:00 – QBTC and the Push for Quantum-Resistant Bitcoin 48:43 – Why Changing Bitcoin Is So Hard 51:19 – Email Protocols, Ossification, and Bitcoin’s Future 01:01:53 – A Roadmap for Quantum Resistance

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BITCOIN RAILS #59: Post-Quantum Bitcoin Signatures (+ their tradeoffs) | with BIP 360 co-author Ethan ✨ is on BlueSky✨ Heilman 🐱 and Blockstream Head of Research Jonas Nick 🔗 YOUTUBE: 🌿 SPOTIFY: According to BIP 360 co-author Ethan Heilman, Bitcoin needs a minimum of two soft forks to become quantum resistant: P2MR (or an output type that can safely execute PQ signatures) + a post-quantum checksig (signature scheme). Ethan and the BIP 360 team (including myself and Hunter Beast 🕯️) introduced the P2MR part via a BIP 360 update late last year—but the question remains, what’s the most appropriate PQ signature scheme for Bitcoin? They all have substantive tradeoffs, but hash-based signatures seem to be leading technical discourse—likely due to recent optimizations by Jonas Nick and the broader Blockstream research team. It was an honor to sit down with both of these men - arguably the two most influential and productive cryptographers in Bitcoin quantum mitigation right now - for an in-depth review of the leading PQ signature schemes and a temperature check on Bitcoin’s post-quantum planning process. TBH, if you want to skip the noise and jump straight to the signal on quantum, this is the interview to watch. In this episode, we discuss: - What needs to happen at the soft fork, infra, and mitigation levels to fully quantum-harden Bitcoin - Recent updates to BIP 360 + breakdown of the leading hash-based signatures schemes for Bitcoin (SHRINCS + SHRIMPS) - Why we may actually get consensus around a stateful scheme for Bitcoin - Comparisons of hash-based signatures vs Lattice and Isogeny-based schemes - Assessing the risks of both waiting too long and acting too fast (and why quantum is a better threat to be facing than a potential classical attack) This episode of Bitcoin Rails is brought to you by my NEW sponsors: - LayerTwo Labs LayerTwo Labs — developing research, software, and technologies for scaling Bitcoin via the integration of Drivechains (BIP 300/301) - Hashi on Sui — a primitive for executing Bitcoin Defi transactions, without having to trust a federated bridge or other centralized entity - BitBox BitBox — an open-source Bitcoin-only hardware wallet, with smooth UX and no compromises on security. Check out Bitbox [dot] swiss and use code BITCOINRAILS to get a discount TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 Intro 02:18 Ethan’s Quantum Wakeup 05:18 How Blockstream Enters Post Quantum 09:25 BIP 360 Explained 12:11 How Bitcoin Transitions to PQ 17:35 Choosing Post Quantum Signatures 23:20 How Blockstream Created SHRINCS 27:22 Signature Budgets Importance Explained 41:13 What are SHRIMPS? 44:51 SHRIMPS vs SHRINCS 47:48 Why SLH-DSA Alone Won’t Cut It 49:24 Is a SHRIMPS + SHRINCS BIP Coming? 51:51 Blockstream’s Big Plans for Liquid 59:04 Quantum Readiness Roadmap 01:02:22 Importance of a PQ Recovery Plan 01:05:35 How Long Would a PQ Migration Take 01:11:17 Quantum Watchlist Recommendations
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BREAKING: THE MOST IMPORTANT VIDEO TO WATCH IF YOU ARE INVESTED IN QUANTUM COMPUTING COMPANIES. $IONQ $RGTI $QBTS $QUBT The world's leading quantum computing researcher Scott Aaronson calls out the scams and snakeoilmen in the public quantum computing stock market. $IONQ $RGTI $QBTS $QUBT - "The most important thing that I can say in this whole interview, if I am taking to Retail investors is that unfortunately there are companies that I see that are really trying to solve the hardware problems, they might succeed, they might fail but they are really focused on solving the real problems and talking about it more or less honestly" - "and then there are companies that have focused on like marketing themselves to Retail investors and doing IPO's" i.e. the 4 public quantum computing companies IONQ, Rigetti, D-Wave and QUBT. - "and I see these 2 sets of companies being mostly disjoint from each other" - "So the companies that have focused on doing IPO's are actually not the ones that are in the lead on in the hardware, what they are in the lead on is selling a narrative to people...... - "convincing people this is already useful for solving problems in optimization and machine learning and finance, which sounds great to people, but all depends on you agreeing to not ask the question Q. well could a classical computer have done that just as well, could a classical computer actually have done that much faster and easier " "When people are talking about that the big use of a quantum computer is to solve optimization or machine learning problems or to turbo charge AI, or it can already do this, it's already delivering value to customers...." "these are the tells you are dealing with a SNAKEOIL SALESMAN" He calls out the "scammy" companies in this space! Remember the only 4 quantum pure play companies that have IPO'd are $IONQ $RGTI $QUBT $QBTS He also says earlier in the interview “I would say $IONQ has not demonstrated anything in trapped ion hardware close to what Quantinuum has demonstrated in the last year” YOU ARE BEING LIED TO! Full video in comments from the The Quantum Bull
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BREAKING: THE MOST IMPORTANT VIDEO TO WATCH IF YOU ARE INVESTED IN QUANTUM COMPUTING COMPANIES. $IONQ $RGTI $QBTS $QUBT The world's leading quantum computing researcher Scott Aaronson calls out the scams and snakeoilmen in the public quantum computing stock market. $IONQ $RGTI $QBTS $QUBT - "The most important thing that I can say in this whole interview, if I am taking to Retail investors is that unfortunately there are companies that I see that are really trying to solve the hardware problems, they might succeed, they might fail but they are really focused on solving the real problems and talking about it more or less honestly" - "and then there are companies that have focused on like marketing themselves to Retail investors and doing IPO's" i.e. the 4 public quantum computing companies IONQ, Rigetti, D-Wave and QUBT. - "and I see these 2 sets of companies being mostly disjoint from each other" - "So the companies that have focused on doing IPO's are actually not the ones that are in the lead on in the hardware, what they are in the lead on is selling a narrative to people...... - "convincing people this is already useful for solving problems in optimization and machine learning and finance, which sounds great to people, but all depends on you agreeing to not ask the question Q. well could a classical computer have done that just as well, could a classical computer actually have done that much faster and easier " "When people are talking about that the big use of a quantum computer is to solve optimization or machine learning problems or to turbo charge AI, or it can already do this, it's already delivering value to customers...." "these are the tells you are dealing with a SNAKEOIL SALESMAN" He calls out the "scammy" companies in this space! Remember the only 4 quantum pure play companies that have IPO'd are $IONQ $RGTI $QUBT $QBTS He also says earlier in the interview “I would say $IONQ has not demonstrated anything in trapped ion hardware close to what Quantinuum has demonstrated in the last year” YOU ARE BEING LIED TO! Full video in comments from the The Quantum Bull

Common Sense Investor (CSI)

140,077 Aufrufe • vor 8 Monaten

Quantum computing is coming. Google’s recent breakthrough in quantum computing serves as a great reminder that, while we don’t know exactly when, quantum computing is on its way—and it’s closer than we might have thought. The implications for the current blockchain space could be far more severe than we can imagine. Why? Because when quantum computers become operational, security methods that currently take hundreds of years to hack could be broken in minutes. Like the turkey oblivious to the 1001st day, failing to anticipate the risks posed by quantum computing could leave us vulnerable to devastating consequences when the time comes. At StarkWare, we’ve anticipated this risk and developed STARK, a proving technology for blockchains that is quantum-resistant. This cutting-edge innovation currently powers Starknet (BTCFi arc). If you want to stay ahead of the curve and future-proof your systems, now is the best time to migrate your stack to a STARK-powered one. As the inventors of this technology, we believe our team is uniquely positioned to assist you with this migration. Moreover, we are more than open to collaborating with the Ethereum Foundation and other relevant parties to build Ethereum’s quantum resistance as soon as the community is ready.
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Quantum computing is coming. Google’s recent breakthrough in quantum computing serves as a great reminder that, while we don’t know exactly when, quantum computing is on its way—and it’s closer than we might have thought. The implications for the current blockchain space could be far more severe than we can imagine. Why? Because when quantum computers become operational, security methods that currently take hundreds of years to hack could be broken in minutes. Like the turkey oblivious to the 1001st day, failing to anticipate the risks posed by quantum computing could leave us vulnerable to devastating consequences when the time comes. At StarkWare, we’ve anticipated this risk and developed STARK, a proving technology for blockchains that is quantum-resistant. This cutting-edge innovation currently powers Starknet (BTCFi arc). If you want to stay ahead of the curve and future-proof your systems, now is the best time to migrate your stack to a STARK-powered one. As the inventors of this technology, we believe our team is uniquely positioned to assist you with this migration. Moreover, we are more than open to collaborating with the Ethereum Foundation and other relevant parties to build Ethereum’s quantum resistance as soon as the community is ready.

StarkWare (BTCFi arc)

62,316 Aufrufe • vor 1 Jahr

The Cryptocurrency World is paying more attention John Mcafee has explained the importance of Privacy Coins and made it very clear what was going to happen to Bitcoin Lots of panic and lots of people trying to work out what is going on People must realise we are not in normal times The world is about to be shown all corruption and in order for that to happen, the world must be paying attention There is a reason we are seeing Epstein, and a drop in the markets, we are going to learn about what use to take place on The dark web with bitcoin and trafficking All people have to go through the precipice in order to snap out of the matrix, and the crypto world/finance is a big area pulling more eyes onto what we are witnessing now #harrythesoulcoach #johnmcafee #bitcoin #darkweb #truth McAIfee John McAfee
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The Cryptocurrency World is paying more attention John Mcafee has explained the importance of Privacy Coins and made it very clear what was going to happen to Bitcoin Lots of panic and lots of people trying to work out what is going on People must realise we are not in normal times The world is about to be shown all corruption and in order for that to happen, the world must be paying attention There is a reason we are seeing Epstein, and a drop in the markets, we are going to learn about what use to take place on The dark web with bitcoin and trafficking All people have to go through the precipice in order to snap out of the matrix, and the crypto world/finance is a big area pulling more eyes onto what we are witnessing now #harrythesoulcoach #johnmcafee #bitcoin #darkweb #truth McAIfee John McAfee

Harry The Soul Coach

105,369 Aufrufe • vor 9 Monaten

“Only two steps” required to make Bitcoin quantum-resistant? In this Unchained episode, Matt Corallo 🟠 joins me to discuss: ❌ Why he thinks Nic Carter is wrong about the quantum threat to Bitcoin ⛔ Why he disagrees with Nic on his ranking of Bitcoin’s most influential developers 😱 Why “the community at that time” will deal with the quantum threat 🥷 Why making bitcoin post-quantum might require a block size increase 🔥 Why he believes “you burn old lost coins, you burn anyone who hasn't migrated” Timestamps: 🚀0:00 Introduction ⚔️02:16 What Matt says Nic is getting wrong about the quantum threat to Bitcoin 🤔08:59 What Matt says Bitcoin's quantum security roadmap could look like 🫠19:04 Do Bitcoin Core developers have any timelines? 🤯29:34 Are there only two steps required to quantum-proof Bitcoin? 📍34:04 Matt weighs in on public comments from other Bitcoin developers on the quantum threat ⁉️47:37 Why Bitcoin Core has not announced a quantum team 👀53:57 Can BlackRock “fire” Bitcoin developers? 💫58:07 What Matt says is the North Star for Bitcoin developers 🔥1:07:42 What Matt thinks will happen to lost bitcoins 🤔1:08:26 Is there any plan to secure Bitcoin against AI? 👀1:11:31 Will Bitcoin and Ethereum align on quantum security?
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“Only two steps” required to make Bitcoin quantum-resistant? In this Unchained episode, Matt Corallo 🟠 joins me to discuss: ❌ Why he thinks Nic Carter is wrong about the quantum threat to Bitcoin ⛔ Why he disagrees with Nic on his ranking of Bitcoin’s most influential developers 😱 Why “the community at that time” will deal with the quantum threat 🥷 Why making bitcoin post-quantum might require a block size increase 🔥 Why he believes “you burn old lost coins, you burn anyone who hasn't migrated” Timestamps: 🚀0:00 Introduction ⚔️02:16 What Matt says Nic is getting wrong about the quantum threat to Bitcoin 🤔08:59 What Matt says Bitcoin's quantum security roadmap could look like 🫠19:04 Do Bitcoin Core developers have any timelines? 🤯29:34 Are there only two steps required to quantum-proof Bitcoin? 📍34:04 Matt weighs in on public comments from other Bitcoin developers on the quantum threat ⁉️47:37 Why Bitcoin Core has not announced a quantum team 👀53:57 Can BlackRock “fire” Bitcoin developers? 💫58:07 What Matt says is the North Star for Bitcoin developers 🔥1:07:42 What Matt thinks will happen to lost bitcoins 🤔1:08:26 Is there any plan to secure Bitcoin against AI? 👀1:11:31 Will Bitcoin and Ethereum align on quantum security?

Laura Shin

19,795 Aufrufe • vor 6 Monaten

🚨 QUANTUM COMPUTING: THE NEXT TECH GOLD RUSH Quantum computing (QC) is about to blow up the tech world. Think of it as AI on steroids—but here’s the kicker: the entire U.S. quantum sector is worth less than Dogecoin. Imagine buying Bitcoin at $500. That’s where QC is today. Regular computers process in 1s and 0s. QCs use qubits, which can be 1, 0, or both at the same time (superposition). Translation? They solve ridiculously complex problems insanely fast. Google recently ran a calculation on its quantum chip in 5 minutes that would take the world’s fastest supercomputer 10 septillion years to complete. Yes, that’s older than the universe. Why it matters: QC isn’t just a cool science project—it’s a game-changer: Medicine: Design drugs in weeks, not years. Finance: Smarter investments, faster decisions. AI: Supercharges AI, making today’s breakthroughs look tiny. McKinsey predicts QC will add trillions to the economy in the next decade. Entire industries will be rewritten. We are closer than most people think. Quantum startups are already hitting 10 qubits, aiming for 100 in 2 years and thousands in 5 years. QC is already solving real problems in medicine, defense, and finance, and platforms like AWS and Google let you rent quantum power right now. Here’s the wild part: the entire U.S. quantum sector is trading for less than a meme coin. Meanwhile, China is outspending the U.S. 5 to 1 in quantum development. Legislation like the Quantum Leadership Act is injecting billions into R&D, but QC’s “ChatGPT moment”—where its potential becomes undeniable—is just 2-3 years away. The upside here is massive. QC isn’t just going to change industries—it’s going to flip them on their heads. When its moment comes, the repricing will be fast and brutal. The clock is ticking. Source: Charles Edwards
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🚨 QUANTUM COMPUTING: THE NEXT TECH GOLD RUSH Quantum computing (QC) is about to blow up the tech world. Think of it as AI on steroids—but here’s the kicker: the entire U.S. quantum sector is worth less than Dogecoin. Imagine buying Bitcoin at $500. That’s where QC is today. Regular computers process in 1s and 0s. QCs use qubits, which can be 1, 0, or both at the same time (superposition). Translation? They solve ridiculously complex problems insanely fast. Google recently ran a calculation on its quantum chip in 5 minutes that would take the world’s fastest supercomputer 10 septillion years to complete. Yes, that’s older than the universe. Why it matters: QC isn’t just a cool science project—it’s a game-changer: Medicine: Design drugs in weeks, not years. Finance: Smarter investments, faster decisions. AI: Supercharges AI, making today’s breakthroughs look tiny. McKinsey predicts QC will add trillions to the economy in the next decade. Entire industries will be rewritten. We are closer than most people think. Quantum startups are already hitting 10 qubits, aiming for 100 in 2 years and thousands in 5 years. QC is already solving real problems in medicine, defense, and finance, and platforms like AWS and Google let you rent quantum power right now. Here’s the wild part: the entire U.S. quantum sector is trading for less than a meme coin. Meanwhile, China is outspending the U.S. 5 to 1 in quantum development. Legislation like the Quantum Leadership Act is injecting billions into R&D, but QC’s “ChatGPT moment”—where its potential becomes undeniable—is just 2-3 years away. The upside here is massive. QC isn’t just going to change industries—it’s going to flip them on their heads. When its moment comes, the repricing will be fast and brutal. The clock is ticking. Source: Charles Edwards

Mario Nawfal

1,870,630 Aufrufe • vor 1 Jahr

📣 Dmitry Saksonov: A Message to the Community You've been waiting for this. We've been waiting for this. And today is the day we start showing our hand. 🎬 In this video, Dmitry Saksonov — the founder of our ecosystem — speaks openly for the first time about the journey from 2023 to 2026. About those who believed first. About every single person who became the foundation of what we're building 🙏 ▶ Watch this video. Listen to his words. This isn't just a progress report. It's an honest conversation about why we are destined to succeed. 🌍 But what's next? The world is changing right now. 🇺🇸 The US administration is investing $2 billion into quantum technologies — the largest government investment in the sector to date. 🧠 Quantum is the next frontier after AI. And those who aren't ready for the quantum era will be left behind. ⚠ Neither Bitcoin nor Ethereum are prepared for this. Their cryptography is vulnerable. ⚡ ATOM Quantum ($ATQM) — this is what comes next ⚡ A quantum-resistant reserve asset for the AI era. A financial operating system for the post-quantum age, built on Super-Quantum Ruliadic Oracle technology. 🏔 It's the apex of everything we've built — the layer that unites JGGL, ATLA, IMBA, and TEKI into one unbreakable system. ⚙ The MVP is in its final stages. Our engineers are working 16-hour days 👨‍💻 ✅ Post-quantum signatures ✅ Fast blocks ✅ EVM compatibility All of this is already being tested. 🔐 How to become part of ATOM Quantum? ATOM Quantum can't simply be bought. 🚫 It's not available to those who haven't walked this path with us 🗓 Tomorrow we're launching Atom Quantum Packs. Atom Quantum Packs are your exclusive access to $ATQM. But to unlock the ability to purchase them, you must prove your commitment to the ecosystem 👇 You must hold all four of our core assets: 🪙 JGGL 🔷 ATLA 🎵 IMBA 🎬 TEKI (any amount) 🧩 Only those who've collected all four elements will receive the key to Atom Quantum Packs. 👁 Watch the video. Understand the scale of what we're building. And get ready🚀
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📣 Dmitry Saksonov: A Message to the Community You've been waiting for this. We've been waiting for this. And today is the day we start showing our hand. 🎬 In this video, Dmitry Saksonov — the founder of our ecosystem — speaks openly for the first time about the journey from 2023 to 2026. About those who believed first. About every single person who became the foundation of what we're building 🙏 ▶ Watch this video. Listen to his words. This isn't just a progress report. It's an honest conversation about why we are destined to succeed. 🌍 But what's next? The world is changing right now. 🇺🇸 The US administration is investing $2 billion into quantum technologies — the largest government investment in the sector to date. 🧠 Quantum is the next frontier after AI. And those who aren't ready for the quantum era will be left behind. ⚠ Neither Bitcoin nor Ethereum are prepared for this. Their cryptography is vulnerable. ⚡ ATOM Quantum ($ATQM) — this is what comes next ⚡ A quantum-resistant reserve asset for the AI era. A financial operating system for the post-quantum age, built on Super-Quantum Ruliadic Oracle technology. 🏔 It's the apex of everything we've built — the layer that unites JGGL, ATLA, IMBA, and TEKI into one unbreakable system. ⚙ The MVP is in its final stages. Our engineers are working 16-hour days 👨‍💻 ✅ Post-quantum signatures ✅ Fast blocks ✅ EVM compatibility All of this is already being tested. 🔐 How to become part of ATOM Quantum? ATOM Quantum can't simply be bought. 🚫 It's not available to those who haven't walked this path with us 🗓 Tomorrow we're launching Atom Quantum Packs. Atom Quantum Packs are your exclusive access to $ATQM. But to unlock the ability to purchase them, you must prove your commitment to the ecosystem 👇 You must hold all four of our core assets: 🪙 JGGL 🔷 ATLA 🎵 IMBA 🎬 TEKI (any amount) 🧩 Only those who've collected all four elements will receive the key to Atom Quantum Packs. 👁 Watch the video. Understand the scale of what we're building. And get ready🚀

Atleta Network

26,546 Aufrufe • vor 3 Monaten

Jim Cramer is selling his Bitcoin over quantum fears Honestly, this is not a dumb take from Cramer. It was the fact that quantum computing has officially entered mainstream conversations. Jim Cramer also said he’s planning to sell all his $BTC because of quantum risks. Then IBM’s CEO warned everyone to be paranoid about what’s coming in the next 3–4 years. Whether you agree with them or not isn’t the point. The point is this: If people are questioning whether tomorrow’s computers can break today’s cryptography… Why are we still trusting today’s privacy tools to protect tomorrow’s data? That’s exactly why I’ve been following what QVPN is building. Unlike traditional VPNs that mainly hide your IP, QVPN is being built with quantum-safe protection on top of DIAM’s blockchain infrastructure. Most people won’t care until it’s too late. I’d rather prepare before everyone else starts asking the same questions. If quantum ends up changing cybersecurity the way AI changed software, the projects building for that future today will matter the most. Join QVPN Genesis and mine $SHHH 🔗 #Quantum
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Jim Cramer is selling his Bitcoin over quantum fears Honestly, this is not a dumb take from Cramer. It was the fact that quantum computing has officially entered mainstream conversations. Jim Cramer also said he’s planning to sell all his $BTC because of quantum risks. Then IBM’s CEO warned everyone to be paranoid about what’s coming in the next 3–4 years. Whether you agree with them or not isn’t the point. The point is this: If people are questioning whether tomorrow’s computers can break today’s cryptography… Why are we still trusting today’s privacy tools to protect tomorrow’s data? That’s exactly why I’ve been following what QVPN is building. Unlike traditional VPNs that mainly hide your IP, QVPN is being built with quantum-safe protection on top of DIAM’s blockchain infrastructure. Most people won’t care until it’s too late. I’d rather prepare before everyone else starts asking the same questions. If quantum ends up changing cybersecurity the way AI changed software, the projects building for that future today will matter the most. Join QVPN Genesis and mine $SHHH 🔗 #Quantum

Aein

18,529 Aufrufe • vor 23 Tagen

Ethereum Researcher Justin Drake, who co-authored Google's recent quantum paper: "I've stopped thinking about post-quantum as a hurdle that we have to overcome, and I think of it more as an opportunity. It's an opportunity for Ethereum to stand out as the very first global financial system that is post-quantum secure — not just relative to its competitors, but also relative to fiat and tradfi." Justin also believes quantum presents an opportunity for Ethereum to become the best version of itself: “The move to post-quantum is essentially a rewrite, and that’s a massive opportunity to start with a clean slate and wipe our technical debt.” The rewrite bundles post-quantum security with a new ZK virtual machine (LeanVM) that can snarkify the entire consensus layer in real time. The result is that the Ethereum L1 can scale to 10,000 TPS at 1 gigagas/second — while simultaneously becoming quantum-secure. Source: Bankless (Mar 2026)
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Ethereum Researcher Justin Drake, who co-authored Google's recent quantum paper: "I've stopped thinking about post-quantum as a hurdle that we have to overcome, and I think of it more as an opportunity. It's an opportunity for Ethereum to stand out as the very first global financial system that is post-quantum secure — not just relative to its competitors, but also relative to fiat and tradfi." Justin also believes quantum presents an opportunity for Ethereum to become the best version of itself: “The move to post-quantum is essentially a rewrite, and that’s a massive opportunity to start with a clean slate and wipe our technical debt.” The rewrite bundles post-quantum security with a new ZK virtual machine (LeanVM) that can snarkify the entire consensus layer in real time. The result is that the Ethereum L1 can scale to 10,000 TPS at 1 gigagas/second — while simultaneously becoming quantum-secure. Source: Bankless (Mar 2026)

Etherealize

185,919 Aufrufe • vor 4 Monaten

BITCOIN RAILS #61: QUANTUM CRYPTOGRAPHY FOR BITCOIN | with Dan Boneh Dan Boneh 🔗 YOUTUBE: 🌿 SPOTIFY: One of the most prolific and influential cryptographers in the world, it’s difficult to fully quantify the impact that Dan Boneh has had on Bitcoin and digital assets more broadly. Through both his own research and his mentorship of some of the space’s most important contributors — e.g. Andrew Poelstra, Benedikt Bünz ☕️, and Robin Linus 🥖 — few people have done more to shape the cryptographic foundations underlying modern blockchains and digital finance. More recently, Dan co-authored Google's widely discussed paper, “Securing Elliptic Curve Cryptocurrencies against Quantum Vulnerabilities,” which reduced prior estimates of the resources required to run Shor’s algorithm against the elliptic-curve cryptography used by Bitcoin. The paper reignited debate around quantum computing timelines and the long-term security assumptions behind modern cryptocurrencies. In this episode of Bitcoin Rails, Dan and I discuss the current state of quantum computing, its potential implications for Bitcoin, and how he believes the Bitcoin community should think about preparing for a post-quantum future over the coming decade and beyond. And yes, Dan shares his take on the “when quantum” question in the interview, among other key perspectives. This episode of Bitcoin Rails is brought to you by my NEW sponsors: LayerTwo Labs LayerTwo Labs — developing research, software, and technologies for scaling Bitcoin via the integration of Drivechains (BIP 300/301) Hashi on Sui — a primitive for executing Bitcoin Defi transactions, without having to trust a federated bridge or other centralized entity BitBox BitBox — an open-source Bitcoin-only hardware wallet, with smooth UX and no compromises on security. Check out Bitbox [dot] swiss and use code BITCOINRAILS to get a discount TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 — Intro and Dan’s history with cryptography and Bitcoin 11:44 — Shor's algorithm: how a 1994 paper became cryptography's most important threat 16:39 — Building a quantum computer: superconducting qubits vs neutral atoms 25:37 — When should we start worrying about quantum computers? The timeline debate 31:51 — Have we already reached quantum computing's “ahá” moment? 39:09 — Inside the Google paper: how Shor's algorithm was optimized 49:57 — The Bitcoin mempool attack and the 10-minute window 59:21 — Mitigation: what should Bitcoin do to prepare for quantum? 1:11:54 — Hash-based vs lattice-based signatures: Dan's case for lattice 1:23:15 — ZK proofs, BIP361, and what to do with Satoshi's coins 1:31:52 — Encrypted mempools and MEV 1:38:29 — Why Bitcoin will survive quantum and Dan's message to Bitcoin builders
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BITCOIN RAILS #61: QUANTUM CRYPTOGRAPHY FOR BITCOIN | with Dan Boneh Dan Boneh 🔗 YOUTUBE: 🌿 SPOTIFY: One of the most prolific and influential cryptographers in the world, it’s difficult to fully quantify the impact that Dan Boneh has had on Bitcoin and digital assets more broadly. Through both his own research and his mentorship of some of the space’s most important contributors — e.g. Andrew Poelstra, Benedikt Bünz ☕️, and Robin Linus 🥖 — few people have done more to shape the cryptographic foundations underlying modern blockchains and digital finance. More recently, Dan co-authored Google's widely discussed paper, “Securing Elliptic Curve Cryptocurrencies against Quantum Vulnerabilities,” which reduced prior estimates of the resources required to run Shor’s algorithm against the elliptic-curve cryptography used by Bitcoin. The paper reignited debate around quantum computing timelines and the long-term security assumptions behind modern cryptocurrencies. In this episode of Bitcoin Rails, Dan and I discuss the current state of quantum computing, its potential implications for Bitcoin, and how he believes the Bitcoin community should think about preparing for a post-quantum future over the coming decade and beyond. And yes, Dan shares his take on the “when quantum” question in the interview, among other key perspectives. This episode of Bitcoin Rails is brought to you by my NEW sponsors: LayerTwo Labs LayerTwo Labs — developing research, software, and technologies for scaling Bitcoin via the integration of Drivechains (BIP 300/301) Hashi on Sui — a primitive for executing Bitcoin Defi transactions, without having to trust a federated bridge or other centralized entity BitBox BitBox — an open-source Bitcoin-only hardware wallet, with smooth UX and no compromises on security. Check out Bitbox [dot] swiss and use code BITCOINRAILS to get a discount TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 — Intro and Dan’s history with cryptography and Bitcoin 11:44 — Shor's algorithm: how a 1994 paper became cryptography's most important threat 16:39 — Building a quantum computer: superconducting qubits vs neutral atoms 25:37 — When should we start worrying about quantum computers? The timeline debate 31:51 — Have we already reached quantum computing's “ahá” moment? 39:09 — Inside the Google paper: how Shor's algorithm was optimized 49:57 — The Bitcoin mempool attack and the 10-minute window 59:21 — Mitigation: what should Bitcoin do to prepare for quantum? 1:11:54 — Hash-based vs lattice-based signatures: Dan's case for lattice 1:23:15 — ZK proofs, BIP361, and what to do with Satoshi's coins 1:31:52 — Encrypted mempools and MEV 1:38:29 — Why Bitcoin will survive quantum and Dan's message to Bitcoin builders

Isabel Foxen Duke⚡️

114,788 Aufrufe • vor 3 Monaten

Threadguy explains why ZEC is one of the only attractive crypto asset to him right now “It's marketcap is only $8B, it's pennies. It's shown the ability to pump like no other" "It has the institutional love, people are doing the DATs, the Winklevoss twins are coming in. It has this privacy narrative, which I think is giga undervalued, and it is the antithesis of the Bitcoin narrative” “I’m in the business of narratives and trading charts. The narrative says it’s quantum resistant and it’s everything Bitcoin is not. I look at the chart and it looks like this is a once-in-a-year setup”
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Threadguy explains why ZEC is one of the only attractive crypto asset to him right now “It's marketcap is only $8B, it's pennies. It's shown the ability to pump like no other" "It has the institutional love, people are doing the DATs, the Winklevoss twins are coming in. It has this privacy narrative, which I think is giga undervalued, and it is the antithesis of the Bitcoin narrative” “I’m in the business of narratives and trading charts. The narrative says it’s quantum resistant and it’s everything Bitcoin is not. I look at the chart and it looks like this is a once-in-a-year setup”

Mikli

89,788 Aufrufe • vor 3 Monaten

Today is World Quantum Day! A great reminder that quantum's impact on cryptography isn't theoretical, it's only a matter of time. To mark the occasion, CEO StaciW_DC sat down with world-renowned post-quantum cryptographer and Algorand CSO Chris Peikert to discuss the quantum threat to blockchain. Since 2022, Algorand has been leading in blockchain quantum resilience by securing its entire chain history with Falcon-signed State Proofs. In 2025, we took it further: the first quantum-resistant transaction protecting real digital assets was executed on mainnet. With Google now targeting 2029 for its own post-quantum migration, the urgency is clear. Algorand isn't waiting, we're already building for that future. Watch now! 👇
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Today is World Quantum Day! A great reminder that quantum's impact on cryptography isn't theoretical, it's only a matter of time. To mark the occasion, CEO StaciW_DC sat down with world-renowned post-quantum cryptographer and Algorand CSO Chris Peikert to discuss the quantum threat to blockchain. Since 2022, Algorand has been leading in blockchain quantum resilience by securing its entire chain history with Falcon-signed State Proofs. In 2025, we took it further: the first quantum-resistant transaction protecting real digital assets was executed on mainnet. With Google now targeting 2029 for its own post-quantum migration, the urgency is clear. Algorand isn't waiting, we're already building for that future. Watch now! 👇

Algorand Foundation

64,547 Aufrufe • vor 4 Monaten