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BREAKING: France just quietly started a countdown that affects every crypto holder. Its national cyber agency will no longer certify any security product. Without quantum-safe encryption after 2027. The announcement never mentions crypto. Not once. But here is what it doesn't have to say. Bitcoin and Ethereum both run... on elliptic curve cryptography. The exact algorithm France just declared obsolete. This is the quantum threat nobody likes to talk about. The fear isn't that quantum computers crack Bitcoin tomorrow. It's a strategy called "harvest now, decrypt later." Adversaries collecting encrypted data today. Waiting for the machine that can crack it. When a major government formally rejects the encryption crypto relies on. It's a signal. The timeline is shifting from theoretical to scheduled. Don't panic. Bitcoin can upgrade to quantum-resistant cryptography. The developers know this is coming. But France just made one thing clear. The clock isn't hypothetical anymore. It's ticking. And the date is set.show more

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Ethereum Researcher Justin Drake, who co-authored Google's recent quantum paper: "I've stopped thinking about post-quantum as a hurdle that we have to overcome, and I think of it more as an opportunity. It's an opportunity for Ethereum to stand out as the very first global financial system that is post-quantum secure — not just relative to its competitors, but also relative to fiat and tradfi." Justin also believes quantum presents an opportunity for Ethereum to become the best version of itself: “The move to post-quantum is essentially a rewrite, and that’s a massive opportunity to start with a clean slate and wipe our technical debt.” The rewrite bundles post-quantum security with a new ZK virtual machine (LeanVM) that can snarkify the entire consensus layer in real time. The result is that the Ethereum L1 can scale to 10,000 TPS at 1 gigagas/second — while simultaneously becoming quantum-secure. Source: Bankless (Mar 2026)

Ethereum Researcher Justin Drake, who co-authored Google's recent quantum paper: "I've stopped thinking about post-quantum as a hurdle that we have to overcome, and I think of it more as an opportunity. It's an opportunity for Ethereum to stand out as the very first global financial system that is post-quantum secure — not just relative to its competitors, but also relative to fiat and tradfi." Justin also believes quantum presents an opportunity for Ethereum to become the best version of itself: “The move to post-quantum is essentially a rewrite, and that’s a massive opportunity to start with a clean slate and wipe our technical debt.” The rewrite bundles post-quantum security with a new ZK virtual machine (LeanVM) that can snarkify the entire consensus layer in real time. The result is that the Ethereum L1 can scale to 10,000 TPS at 1 gigagas/second — while simultaneously becoming quantum-secure. Source: Bankless (Mar 2026)

Etherealize

185,919 Aufrufe • vor 4 Monaten

QUANTUM FEARS ARE FUD -- BITCOIN ISN’T EVEN CLOSE TO AT RISK Bitcoiners like Samson Mow are calling it out: today’s “quantum computers” can’t even solve basic problems without being fed hints -- they’re nowhere near cracking cryptography. The real timeline? 10–20 years, if ever. And here’s the part people miss -- if quantum ever becomes real, $BTC can upgrade fast, while the traditional financial system (banks, legacy security, government infra) is far more exposed. This isn’t a threat. It’s narrative-driven fear while the system quietly shifts on-chain.

QUANTUM FEARS ARE FUD -- BITCOIN ISN’T EVEN CLOSE TO AT RISK Bitcoiners like Samson Mow are calling it out: today’s “quantum computers” can’t even solve basic problems without being fed hints -- they’re nowhere near cracking cryptography. The real timeline? 10–20 years, if ever. And here’s the part people miss -- if quantum ever becomes real, $BTC can upgrade fast, while the traditional financial system (banks, legacy security, government infra) is far more exposed. This isn’t a threat. It’s narrative-driven fear while the system quietly shifts on-chain.

CryptosRus

41,295 Aufrufe • vor 4 Monaten

When does Washington move fast? When something becomes a national security priority. On this week’s Bitcoin Policy Hour, the Bitcoin Policy Institute team breaks down why quantum technology isn’t just another tech buzzword — it’s the next geopolitical battleground. The U.S. is investing directly in quantum firms because whoever wins this race will shape the future of encryption and information security. If an adversary develops quantum capabilities first, decades of encrypted government and financial data could be exposed overnight — including Bitcoin and every sensitive communications channel the U.S. depends on. The takeaway: Quantum must be treated with the same strategic urgency as AI, rare earths, and energy independence, and Bitcoin should be integrated into America’s broader resilience strategy. 🎥 Watch here: cc: Zack Shapiro Zack Cohen Bayman11771

When does Washington move fast? When something becomes a national security priority. On this week’s Bitcoin Policy Hour, the Bitcoin Policy Institute team breaks down why quantum technology isn’t just another tech buzzword — it’s the next geopolitical battleground. The U.S. is investing directly in quantum firms because whoever wins this race will shape the future of encryption and information security. If an adversary develops quantum capabilities first, decades of encrypted government and financial data could be exposed overnight — including Bitcoin and every sensitive communications channel the U.S. depends on. The takeaway: Quantum must be treated with the same strategic urgency as AI, rare earths, and energy independence, and Bitcoin should be integrated into America’s broader resilience strategy. 🎥 Watch here: cc: Zack Shapiro Zack Cohen Bayman11771

Bitcoin Policy Institute

32,904 Aufrufe • vor 9 Monaten

BITCOIN RAILS #61: QUANTUM CRYPTOGRAPHY FOR BITCOIN | with Dan Boneh Dan Boneh 🔗 YOUTUBE: 🌿 SPOTIFY: One of the most prolific and influential cryptographers in the world, it’s difficult to fully quantify the impact that Dan Boneh has had on Bitcoin and digital assets more broadly. Through both his own research and his mentorship of some of the space’s most important contributors — e.g. Andrew Poelstra, Benedikt Bünz ☕️, and Robin Linus 🥖 — few people have done more to shape the cryptographic foundations underlying modern blockchains and digital finance. More recently, Dan co-authored Google's widely discussed paper, “Securing Elliptic Curve Cryptocurrencies against Quantum Vulnerabilities,” which reduced prior estimates of the resources required to run Shor’s algorithm against the elliptic-curve cryptography used by Bitcoin. The paper reignited debate around quantum computing timelines and the long-term security assumptions behind modern cryptocurrencies. In this episode of Bitcoin Rails, Dan and I discuss the current state of quantum computing, its potential implications for Bitcoin, and how he believes the Bitcoin community should think about preparing for a post-quantum future over the coming decade and beyond. And yes, Dan shares his take on the “when quantum” question in the interview, among other key perspectives. This episode of Bitcoin Rails is brought to you by my NEW sponsors: LayerTwo Labs LayerTwo Labs — developing research, software, and technologies for scaling Bitcoin via the integration of Drivechains (BIP 300/301) Hashi on Sui — a primitive for executing Bitcoin Defi transactions, without having to trust a federated bridge or other centralized entity BitBox BitBox — an open-source Bitcoin-only hardware wallet, with smooth UX and no compromises on security. Check out Bitbox [dot] swiss and use code BITCOINRAILS to get a discount TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 — Intro and Dan’s history with cryptography and Bitcoin 11:44 — Shor's algorithm: how a 1994 paper became cryptography's most important threat 16:39 — Building a quantum computer: superconducting qubits vs neutral atoms 25:37 — When should we start worrying about quantum computers? The timeline debate 31:51 — Have we already reached quantum computing's “ahá” moment? 39:09 — Inside the Google paper: how Shor's algorithm was optimized 49:57 — The Bitcoin mempool attack and the 10-minute window 59:21 — Mitigation: what should Bitcoin do to prepare for quantum? 1:11:54 — Hash-based vs lattice-based signatures: Dan's case for lattice 1:23:15 — ZK proofs, BIP361, and what to do with Satoshi's coins 1:31:52 — Encrypted mempools and MEV 1:38:29 — Why Bitcoin will survive quantum and Dan's message to Bitcoin builders

BITCOIN RAILS #61: QUANTUM CRYPTOGRAPHY FOR BITCOIN | with Dan Boneh Dan Boneh 🔗 YOUTUBE: 🌿 SPOTIFY: One of the most prolific and influential cryptographers in the world, it’s difficult to fully quantify the impact that Dan Boneh has had on Bitcoin and digital assets more broadly. Through both his own research and his mentorship of some of the space’s most important contributors — e.g. Andrew Poelstra, Benedikt Bünz ☕️, and Robin Linus 🥖 — few people have done more to shape the cryptographic foundations underlying modern blockchains and digital finance. More recently, Dan co-authored Google's widely discussed paper, “Securing Elliptic Curve Cryptocurrencies against Quantum Vulnerabilities,” which reduced prior estimates of the resources required to run Shor’s algorithm against the elliptic-curve cryptography used by Bitcoin. The paper reignited debate around quantum computing timelines and the long-term security assumptions behind modern cryptocurrencies. In this episode of Bitcoin Rails, Dan and I discuss the current state of quantum computing, its potential implications for Bitcoin, and how he believes the Bitcoin community should think about preparing for a post-quantum future over the coming decade and beyond. And yes, Dan shares his take on the “when quantum” question in the interview, among other key perspectives. This episode of Bitcoin Rails is brought to you by my NEW sponsors: LayerTwo Labs LayerTwo Labs — developing research, software, and technologies for scaling Bitcoin via the integration of Drivechains (BIP 300/301) Hashi on Sui — a primitive for executing Bitcoin Defi transactions, without having to trust a federated bridge or other centralized entity BitBox BitBox — an open-source Bitcoin-only hardware wallet, with smooth UX and no compromises on security. Check out Bitbox [dot] swiss and use code BITCOINRAILS to get a discount TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 — Intro and Dan’s history with cryptography and Bitcoin 11:44 — Shor's algorithm: how a 1994 paper became cryptography's most important threat 16:39 — Building a quantum computer: superconducting qubits vs neutral atoms 25:37 — When should we start worrying about quantum computers? The timeline debate 31:51 — Have we already reached quantum computing's “ahá” moment? 39:09 — Inside the Google paper: how Shor's algorithm was optimized 49:57 — The Bitcoin mempool attack and the 10-minute window 59:21 — Mitigation: what should Bitcoin do to prepare for quantum? 1:11:54 — Hash-based vs lattice-based signatures: Dan's case for lattice 1:23:15 — ZK proofs, BIP361, and what to do with Satoshi's coins 1:31:52 — Encrypted mempools and MEV 1:38:29 — Why Bitcoin will survive quantum and Dan's message to Bitcoin builders

Isabel Foxen Duke⚡️

114,004 Aufrufe • vor 2 Monaten

Threadguy explains why ZEC is one of the only attractive crypto asset to him right now “It's marketcap is only $8B, it's pennies. It's shown the ability to pump like no other" "It has the institutional love, people are doing the DATs, the Winklevoss twins are coming in. It has this privacy narrative, which I think is giga undervalued, and it is the antithesis of the Bitcoin narrative” “I’m in the business of narratives and trading charts. The narrative says it’s quantum resistant and it’s everything Bitcoin is not. I look at the chart and it looks like this is a once-in-a-year setup”

Threadguy explains why ZEC is one of the only attractive crypto asset to him right now “It's marketcap is only $8B, it's pennies. It's shown the ability to pump like no other" "It has the institutional love, people are doing the DATs, the Winklevoss twins are coming in. It has this privacy narrative, which I think is giga undervalued, and it is the antithesis of the Bitcoin narrative” “I’m in the business of narratives and trading charts. The narrative says it’s quantum resistant and it’s everything Bitcoin is not. I look at the chart and it looks like this is a once-in-a-year setup”

Mikli

89,788 Aufrufe • vor 3 Monaten

Threadguy predicts this will be the first bull run in crypto history where Bitcoin doesn't participate "This is going to be the first bull run in the history of crypto where Bitcoin flat out does not participate. No role, no say, it will be minimal at best. It will be Bitcoin to $75k, Bitcoin to $80k, Bitcoin to $85k, and there will be mania on-chain." "My entire thesis is that the next cycle comes from new blood getting access to on chain through these apps. This new crowd doesn't even know what Bitcoin is. Anyone that joined because they saw Kimchi or Cented or Rasmr, they don't know what Bitcoin is. If there's a pocket of excitement and new blood in crypto, it will have nothing to do with Bitcoin, the same way Bitcoin had nothing to do with the disaster that on-chain became in 2025. You cannot have it both ways. The two have been separated for years."

Threadguy predicts this will be the first bull run in crypto history where Bitcoin doesn't participate "This is going to be the first bull run in the history of crypto where Bitcoin flat out does not participate. No role, no say, it will be minimal at best. It will be Bitcoin to $75k, Bitcoin to $80k, Bitcoin to $85k, and there will be mania on-chain." "My entire thesis is that the next cycle comes from new blood getting access to on chain through these apps. This new crowd doesn't even know what Bitcoin is. Anyone that joined because they saw Kimchi or Cented or Rasmr, they don't know what Bitcoin is. If there's a pocket of excitement and new blood in crypto, it will have nothing to do with Bitcoin, the same way Bitcoin had nothing to do with the disaster that on-chain became in 2025. You cannot have it both ways. The two have been separated for years."

Kai

44,989 Aufrufe • vor 6 Tagen