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Quantum computers: the “NEVER” case. At StarkWare, we’re preparing for Q-Day because we believe quantum computers pose a real threat. But we want to explore every side of the debate. So Eli Ben-Sasson | Starknet.io sat down with leading quantum skeptic Gil Kalai. Enjoy the discussion 🔽 0:00 Greetings...

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BITCOIN RAILS EPISODE #18: MAKE BITCOIN QUANTUM RESISTANT | with BIP360 author Hunter Beast Hunter Beast 🕯️ Quantum computing is a complicated topic—one that incites equal amounts of fear and skepticism depending on who you talk to… especially in Bitcoin. In this episode, BIP360 author Hunter Beast wisely shares why the “truth is likely somewhere in the middle,” citing incremental advancements in quantum computing that may eventually pose a legitimate threat to some Bitcoin addresses—as well as steps we can take to protect ourselves in the short, medium and long term. The correct posture is to “be prepared, not scared,” says Hunter Beast 🕯️ Ultimately, the introduction of quantum resistant cryptography—via proposals like BIP360—will be needed for higher degrees of security. That said, individuals can mitigate personal risk substantially through proper address-use hygiene. This episode breaks down the specific challenges Bitcoin will face in the event of a quantum attack, the likelihood of an attack over time, and the steps we’ll need to take at the individual and communal level to ensure Bitcoin’s safety. This episode includes detailed discussion of: 1) How quantum computing could potentially affect Bitcoin public/private key cryptography—and technologies built on vulnerable addresses (e.g. Taproot) 2) Best practices for protecting yourself against quantum in the short and long term 3) Implications of vulnerable address types—e.g. what about Satoshi’s coins? 4) Deep Dive into BIP360 + proposed long-term solutions 5) Industry roadmaps for quantum computing + how banks and governments are preparing for “Q Day” As always, this episode can be viewed on Spotify or YouTuve—full episode in the comments or linktree in my bio. This episode is powered by Best In Slot—the leading API for Ordinals and BRC20 data aggregation and indexing. TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 Intro 02:05 What is quantum computing? 04:30 How could quantum threaten your Bitcoin wallet? 06:50 Addresses that are safe from quantum 09:13 Satoshi’s coins are in danger! 11:25 What happens if Satoshi’s coins are touched? 14:45 Do we softfork to shield Satoshi’s coins? 16:38 “Transitory inflation” for bitcoin after quantum 21:05 Why Taproot addresses are vulnerable 23:50 Do NOT reuse your Bitcoin addresses! 26:03 When will Quantum become a threat? 28:34 The long/short exposure attack; explained 31:45 Protection using private mempools 33:20 Why all the new Bitcoin L2s are in danger 37:45 Quantum is 5 to 10 years away, governments fear 40:34 Non-Bitcoin systems threatened by quantum 42:26 Centralized systems can adapt to quantum 43:50 Hunter’s BIP: Post quantum cryptography in Bitcoin 47:40 Hunter’s three new signature algorithms 53:48 Is new cryptography on Bitcoin risky? 56:33 Why not just stick to hash-based cryptography? 58:49 A 16X discount for quantum resistant addresses? 01:02:30 Creating quantum resistant multisig addresses 01:04:00 What is Frost? 01:06:50 The long process of approving a BIP 01:08:30 What developers think of Hunter’s BIP 01:10:00 Matt Corallo’s concerns with Hunter’s approach 01:11:00 Steps to implementing the BIP 360 01:17:00 Where to learn more about BIP 360 01:17:50 Who can push the button to change Bitcoin?
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BITCOIN RAILS EPISODE #18: MAKE BITCOIN QUANTUM RESISTANT | with BIP360 author Hunter Beast Hunter Beast 🕯️ Quantum computing is a complicated topic—one that incites equal amounts of fear and skepticism depending on who you talk to… especially in Bitcoin. In this episode, BIP360 author Hunter Beast wisely shares why the “truth is likely somewhere in the middle,” citing incremental advancements in quantum computing that may eventually pose a legitimate threat to some Bitcoin addresses—as well as steps we can take to protect ourselves in the short, medium and long term. The correct posture is to “be prepared, not scared,” says Hunter Beast 🕯️ Ultimately, the introduction of quantum resistant cryptography—via proposals like BIP360—will be needed for higher degrees of security. That said, individuals can mitigate personal risk substantially through proper address-use hygiene. This episode breaks down the specific challenges Bitcoin will face in the event of a quantum attack, the likelihood of an attack over time, and the steps we’ll need to take at the individual and communal level to ensure Bitcoin’s safety. This episode includes detailed discussion of: 1) How quantum computing could potentially affect Bitcoin public/private key cryptography—and technologies built on vulnerable addresses (e.g. Taproot) 2) Best practices for protecting yourself against quantum in the short and long term 3) Implications of vulnerable address types—e.g. what about Satoshi’s coins? 4) Deep Dive into BIP360 + proposed long-term solutions 5) Industry roadmaps for quantum computing + how banks and governments are preparing for “Q Day” As always, this episode can be viewed on Spotify or YouTuve—full episode in the comments or linktree in my bio. This episode is powered by Best In Slot—the leading API for Ordinals and BRC20 data aggregation and indexing. TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 Intro 02:05 What is quantum computing? 04:30 How could quantum threaten your Bitcoin wallet? 06:50 Addresses that are safe from quantum 09:13 Satoshi’s coins are in danger! 11:25 What happens if Satoshi’s coins are touched? 14:45 Do we softfork to shield Satoshi’s coins? 16:38 “Transitory inflation” for bitcoin after quantum 21:05 Why Taproot addresses are vulnerable 23:50 Do NOT reuse your Bitcoin addresses! 26:03 When will Quantum become a threat? 28:34 The long/short exposure attack; explained 31:45 Protection using private mempools 33:20 Why all the new Bitcoin L2s are in danger 37:45 Quantum is 5 to 10 years away, governments fear 40:34 Non-Bitcoin systems threatened by quantum 42:26 Centralized systems can adapt to quantum 43:50 Hunter’s BIP: Post quantum cryptography in Bitcoin 47:40 Hunter’s three new signature algorithms 53:48 Is new cryptography on Bitcoin risky? 56:33 Why not just stick to hash-based cryptography? 58:49 A 16X discount for quantum resistant addresses? 01:02:30 Creating quantum resistant multisig addresses 01:04:00 What is Frost? 01:06:50 The long process of approving a BIP 01:08:30 What developers think of Hunter’s BIP 01:10:00 Matt Corallo’s concerns with Hunter’s approach 01:11:00 Steps to implementing the BIP 360 01:17:00 Where to learn more about BIP 360 01:17:50 Who can push the button to change Bitcoin?

Isabel Foxen Duke⚡️

31,148 views • 1 year ago

.Sui has a massive headstart and the most flexible architecture for the post-quantum and AI era. This conversation with Kostas Kryptos tells you exactly why, and what every other chain still has to figure out. If you hold anything onchain, watch this pod. Timestamps: 0:00 Intro 6:00 What a quantum computer actually is (the 10-year-old version) 10:00 Quantum will be used for trading before it ever breaks Bitcoin? 13:00 Post-quantum algorithms (solved) vs hardware (decades out) 17:00 "If you think quantum breaks crypto by 2030, you can make free money" 19:00 Everyone missed this: AI is now researching quantum alongside humans 25:00 The post-quantum-algorithm debate: Falcon, Dilithium, Sphincs and why each chain picks differently 27:00 Why Bitcoin will ONLY adopt hash-based post-quantum algorithms 31:00 This is why Sui's architecture wins: 128KB transactions, native multi-sig, flexible authenticator 36:00 How Sui can natively support any signature scheme 40:00 The Sui-only algorithm: protect existing EdDSA addresses without moving a coin 44:00 Design philosophy: what Sui kept from Libra, and what it threw out 47:00 Why Sui can keep gas low even with post-quantum signatures 49:00 How Kostas first started working on this in 2016 at R3 Corda 51:00 Attending tech conference one day after his son was born: meeting Sam Blackshear , joining Libra 55:00 The bigger near-term threat: AI-aided attacks, not quantum 58:00 Why Mysten Labs is now sharing its security tooling with the community 1:02:00 Sui's $100K post-quantum bounty: break it, keep it
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.Sui has a massive headstart and the most flexible architecture for the post-quantum and AI era. This conversation with Kostas Kryptos tells you exactly why, and what every other chain still has to figure out. If you hold anything onchain, watch this pod. Timestamps: 0:00 Intro 6:00 What a quantum computer actually is (the 10-year-old version) 10:00 Quantum will be used for trading before it ever breaks Bitcoin? 13:00 Post-quantum algorithms (solved) vs hardware (decades out) 17:00 "If you think quantum breaks crypto by 2030, you can make free money" 19:00 Everyone missed this: AI is now researching quantum alongside humans 25:00 The post-quantum-algorithm debate: Falcon, Dilithium, Sphincs and why each chain picks differently 27:00 Why Bitcoin will ONLY adopt hash-based post-quantum algorithms 31:00 This is why Sui's architecture wins: 128KB transactions, native multi-sig, flexible authenticator 36:00 How Sui can natively support any signature scheme 40:00 The Sui-only algorithm: protect existing EdDSA addresses without moving a coin 44:00 Design philosophy: what Sui kept from Libra, and what it threw out 47:00 Why Sui can keep gas low even with post-quantum signatures 49:00 How Kostas first started working on this in 2016 at R3 Corda 51:00 Attending tech conference one day after his son was born: meeting Sam Blackshear , joining Libra 55:00 The bigger near-term threat: AI-aided attacks, not quantum 58:00 Why Mysten Labs is now sharing its security tooling with the community 1:02:00 Sui's $100K post-quantum bounty: break it, keep it

Sooraj

13,761 views • 3 months ago

Why Elon Musk said Quantum computing is best done in the permanently shadowed craters on the Moon? At first, it sounds like one of Elon’s wild sci-fi ideas, but there’s deep logic behind it Quantum computers need extreme cold and perfect stability to work. The Moon’s permanently shadowed craters, like Shackleton, stay at −200°C, with no atmosphere, no noise, no heat, and no weather, the ultimate natural lab for quantum physics On Earth, we spend millions creating those same conditions artificially On the Moon, they already exist Once again, Elon isn’t daydreaming, he’s pointing at the future.
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Why Elon Musk said Quantum computing is best done in the permanently shadowed craters on the Moon? At first, it sounds like one of Elon’s wild sci-fi ideas, but there’s deep logic behind it Quantum computers need extreme cold and perfect stability to work. The Moon’s permanently shadowed craters, like Shackleton, stay at −200°C, with no atmosphere, no noise, no heat, and no weather, the ultimate natural lab for quantum physics On Earth, we spend millions creating those same conditions artificially On the Moon, they already exist Once again, Elon isn’t daydreaming, he’s pointing at the future.

SMX 🇺🇸

87,967 views • 9 months ago

Why Elon Musk said “Quantum computing is best done in the permanently shadowed craters on the Moon” At first, it sounds like one of Elon’s wild sci-fi ideas, but there’s deep logic behind it Quantum computers need extreme cold and perfect stability to work. The Moon’s permanently shadowed craters, like Shackleton, stay at −200°C, with no atmosphere, no noise, no heat, and no weather, the ultimate natural lab for quantum physics On Earth, we spend millions creating those same conditions artificially. On the Moon, they already exist Once again, Elon isn’t just joking, he’s pointing at the future
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Why Elon Musk said “Quantum computing is best done in the permanently shadowed craters on the Moon” At first, it sounds like one of Elon’s wild sci-fi ideas, but there’s deep logic behind it Quantum computers need extreme cold and perfect stability to work. The Moon’s permanently shadowed craters, like Shackleton, stay at −200°C, with no atmosphere, no noise, no heat, and no weather, the ultimate natural lab for quantum physics On Earth, we spend millions creating those same conditions artificially. On the Moon, they already exist Once again, Elon isn’t just joking, he’s pointing at the future

SMX 🇺🇸

433,322 views • 10 months ago

MFTV #12: Investor Sentiment on Bitcoin's Quantum Transition | with BlackRock Digital Assets' Will Su 🔗 YouTube: 🔗 Spotify: According to Director of Research for BlackRock Digital Assets, Will Su, uncertainty around advances in quantum computing may be the biggest unanswered question facing prospective Bitcoin investors today. He speaks with Head of MARA Foundation Isabel Foxen Duke⚡️ in this episode — sharing how BlackRock thinks about quantum risk, how their clients are responding to quantum advancements, and what Bitcoin developers can do to preserve investor confidence as this technology evolves. MORE ON MFTV WITH BLACKROCK → - How BlackRock evaluates risks associated with Quantum Computing - How investors are pricing these risks and effects on adoption today - What investors want to see from developers to feel comfortable going forward - How BlackRock views the "quantum timeline" and developers' race against the clock TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 — Intro 00:57 — Will before BlackRock 06:50 — Why BlackRock published a quantum paper 14:24 — The mitigation timeline debate 21:51 — What BlackRock wants from the PQ debate 29:27 — Why quantum concern is dampening adoption 41:18 — Developers stepping up 45:53 — Hardware and hybrid quantum architectures 53:15 — Are corporations overstepping? 59:38 — Corporate involvement in Bitcoin's PQ transition
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MFTV #12: Investor Sentiment on Bitcoin's Quantum Transition | with BlackRock Digital Assets' Will Su 🔗 YouTube: 🔗 Spotify: According to Director of Research for BlackRock Digital Assets, Will Su, uncertainty around advances in quantum computing may be the biggest unanswered question facing prospective Bitcoin investors today. He speaks with Head of MARA Foundation Isabel Foxen Duke⚡️ in this episode — sharing how BlackRock thinks about quantum risk, how their clients are responding to quantum advancements, and what Bitcoin developers can do to preserve investor confidence as this technology evolves. MORE ON MFTV WITH BLACKROCK → - How BlackRock evaluates risks associated with Quantum Computing - How investors are pricing these risks and effects on adoption today - What investors want to see from developers to feel comfortable going forward - How BlackRock views the "quantum timeline" and developers' race against the clock TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 — Intro 00:57 — Will before BlackRock 06:50 — Why BlackRock published a quantum paper 14:24 — The mitigation timeline debate 21:51 — What BlackRock wants from the PQ debate 29:27 — Why quantum concern is dampening adoption 41:18 — Developers stepping up 45:53 — Hardware and hybrid quantum architectures 53:15 — Are corporations overstepping? 59:38 — Corporate involvement in Bitcoin's PQ transition

MARA Foundation

12,028 views • 1 month ago