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Roger Ebert ended the argument once and for all.

447,786 просмотров • 25 дней назад •via X (Twitter)

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Фото профиля Shiny Hydreigon
Shiny Hydreigon25 дней назад

How many times do we have to repeat the phrase "comparison is the thief of joy" for people to get it through their thick skulls? Books, games, films, music; literally any form of art is the best form of art when it is well crafted with sincerity and respect.

Фото профиля Art Mason
Art Mason25 дней назад

He understood this, but couldn't understand how video games are even better than movies by the same principle.

Фото профиля Orbit
Orbit25 дней назад

I think the average good movie can be more immersive than the average good book. But a masterpiece book with hundreds of pages can achieve a much more emotional attachment. Also knowing that a single person made it simply as it is adds to it. Movies often try to trick the viewer.

Фото профиля speed racer
speed racer25 дней назад

The same is true for music or literature or almost all other art.

Фото профиля mayur
mayur25 дней назад

This is more true with a book Try one

Фото профиля Andrei Cosmin
Andrei Cosmin25 дней назад

I guess Ebert was a 3, at best, then.

Фото профиля spagbok.
spagbok.25 дней назад

@battlehateharm I mean, the exact same case could be made for good books. So it hasn’t really ended the argument has it

Фото профиля 🐱𝒪𝓊𝓇 𝒽𝒶𝓃𝒹𝓈 𝓂𝑒𝑒𝓉🐱
🐱𝒪𝓊𝓇 𝒽𝒶𝓃𝒹𝓈 𝓂𝑒𝑒𝓉🐱25 дней назад

That can happen with any art. Close your eyes and listen to music, play an immersive video game for hours. It's the same exact thing, and i'm sure people do this with books too. Awful take

Фото профиля sar
sar25 дней назад

op is saying in probably different context

Фото профиля A T
A T25 дней назад

Koi na banger toh banger hove hai

Фото профиля Gui Porto
Gui Porto25 дней назад

My theory: Books demand more of a person. More imagination, more willingness to fill in the gaps for the other senses. Movies are "easier" because they do that for you, and so, they are more accessible.

Фото профиля Black Dog Comics
Black Dog Comics24 дней назад

Roger Ebert was frequently wrong, and cinema was his area of employment. Reading books causes the same sensation he speaks of here, so he's just saying, "I like movies more than books." Cool. ::shrug::

Фото профиля Matthew Anderson
Matthew Anderson25 дней назад

Books are very easy to make and have been around for much longer. When you start reading a lot, movies start to feel more formulaic in comparison. A good book feels like you step into someone else's mind and see the world through their eyes.

Фото профиля JOSIEE
JOSIEE25 дней назад

is that not true with reading?

Фото профиля Vlad Morariu
Vlad Morariu25 дней назад

Reminds me a bit of a quote of Fernando Pessoa on literature. I think it touches upon a similar idea of escapism. When I first read it, my immediate thought was if the evolution of cinema after his death would have changed his mind.

Фото профиля Beep Boop
Beep Boop25 дней назад

It's too hard to compare, for me. Both excel where the other fails. Film can definitely be so immersive, and heightened. But novels have more scope to be expansive and cover long periods of time. A book is a journey.

Фото профиля 𝕷’𝖆𝖗𝖆𝖓̃𝖊́ 𝕽𝖔𝖚𝖏
𝕷’𝖆𝖗𝖆𝖓̃𝖊́ 𝕽𝖔𝖚𝖏25 дней назад

What he's describing happens with books too, though, just to a greater degree because books offer more internal depth. imo

Фото профиля Shitpost Connoisseur
Shitpost Connoisseur24 дней назад

I've felt exactly what he's saying far more often with reading books. It's probably to do with how much more time we spend with a character over the course of a book than a film. It's definitely more immersive if that's the right word.

Фото профиля Bilbo
Bilbo25 дней назад

Immersion is not the only metric for quality, nor does it directly correlate with impact. You don’t have to forget yourself within a piece of media for it to greatly impact you. This is all besides the fact that particularly focused, vivd readers can achieve immersion too.

Фото профиля Brent Matley ✍️🎨
Brent Matley ✍️🎨25 дней назад

I somewhat agree, as movies are a great vehicle to convey emotion, visually. A masterpiece can really bring all of the senses together. But books offer all of the above too, it’s just more of a challenge to obtain. The onus is on the individual to achieve this. Just think of how many amazing books have been adapted to the cinema screen. Therefore, I feel books still have a slight edge over film.

Фото профиля Emog
Emog25 дней назад

I feel like you become entranced with any form of art if it speaks to you that much. I wouldn’t say it’s exclusive to movies, I’d say for me it might be comics or manga or anime. I’ve had movies do the same but it’s simply preference in my mind

Фото профиля Shiny Hydreigon
Shiny Hydreigon25 дней назад

You can't put Brothers Karamazov to film. You can't make Citizen Kane a game. You can't turn Elden Ring into a novel.

Фото профиля Daniel Wright
Daniel Wright25 дней назад

I don't really see any convincing argument for one medium being "better" than another. Merely more effective at certain things.

Фото профиля CrocadileRhino
CrocadileRhino25 дней назад

I think when I'm reading that's such an active process I'm forced to give it my attention, where as a movie doesn't have that weight, the movie happens regardless of what I'm doing. I know what he means, but I've always found reading more engaging in the way he means.

Фото профиля MysterE95
MysterE9525 дней назад

Truth. People often say “But the book is always better than the movie” yeah that’s usually true, but I don’t think that’s because books are an inherently better art form. That’s an issue with the industry, bad movies made just for money. But movies, at their best, are peak art.

Фото профиля Comrade-ical Dude
Comrade-ical Dude24 дней назад

Not also experiencing exactly what he's describing while reading a book is a personal problem

Фото профиля Galactus
Galactus25 дней назад

I disagree. Movies are too short to really get immersed in. There isn't enough time for the characters and stories to really develop. Besides, movies are good at displaying environments and expressions, but books convey what goes on inside people's heads much better than movies.

Фото профиля Bazooka
Bazooka25 дней назад

He’s wrong. Books definitely impact you more but less people read so less people are impacted.

Фото профиля Evan Barrett
Evan Barrett25 дней назад

Saw this in the middle of listening to the blank check episode about Taxi Driver and this shot makes me feel everything Ebert is talking about here so deeply

Фото профиля Franklin Alderson
Franklin Alderson25 дней назад

You could make this argument for literally any narrative art form.

Фото профиля Yeep_27
Yeep_2725 дней назад

Books are unique in their imaginative quality But movies are more intuitive and immediate, they confront you in the same way life does - Through images and sound The image and sound of a wailing child is infinitely more disturbing than any description of it

Фото профиля didier
didier25 дней назад

I loved reading his reviews. Another art form! Simply the best on movies IMO.

Фото профиля Winthorpe
Winthorpe24 дней назад

He’s not correct. Movies are potentially more visceral and engrossing in the moment, but that is not empathy or richness of character. It’s simply an overwhelming of the senses. A more keen experience, yes, but not more valuable. Or interesting.

Фото профиля Lalilala
Lalilala25 дней назад

Why would somebody say one thing is better than the other, it's just completely different things

Фото профиля PotatoCatapult (she/her) 🍉
PotatoCatapult (she/her) 🍉25 дней назад

No he didn't. He just say, in my opinion, movies touch us more deeply than anything else including books. He didn't even give an argument.

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