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the industry hasn't yet internalized how much serverless tool calling will change agent economics watch me run 1000 agents in parallel on a single archil sandbox, with tool calls going to actual Linux microVMs -- all for 30x less than a traditional sandbox it doesn't matter how cheap or...

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Ben Dicken 的头像
Ben Dicken14 天前

so cool

George Mayer 的头像
George Mayer13 天前

Seems very cool... but I don't get it... let me try: Ok so architecture is 1000x agents on one box (makes sense) -> calling into microVM workspaces somewhere else? I'm confused of the savings here? Is this not just classic use of overpacking firecracker? is this compared to running an agent _IN_ a sandbox? Or just compared to margin prices on off the shelf sandboxes?

Hunter Leath 的头像
Hunter Leath13 天前

yes, this is compared to agent-in-sandbox, but similar order of magnitude for agent-outside-of-sandbox if you're still launching that sandbox on the first request and running through the end of the session going to do a longer post on what this means today

Hunter Leath 的头像
Hunter Leath13 天前

let me know if this answers

George Mayer 的头像
George Mayer13 天前

thanks

Nicolò Tognoni 的头像
Nicolò Tognoni14 天前

Paying for idle CPU while the model is thinking is a cost nobody talks about, curious how much latency a microVM per tool call adds compared to a warm sandbox

Hunter Leath 的头像
Hunter Leath14 天前

compared to a running sandbox, you pay about 40ms more

Tyler Rockwood 的头像
Tyler Rockwood14 天前

harness outside the sandbox is the way

Dylan Mikus 的头像
Dylan Mikus14 天前

What's your setup for creating these animated charts?

Hunter Leath 的头像
Hunter Leath14 天前

these days i mostly tell the chatgpt app to use opus 5.5 for design by calling the "claude" CLI and then... idk it just kind of happens took an annoyingly long time to get it in the right (even now i don't love it) shape

Dylan Mikus 的头像
Dylan Mikus14 天前

Gotcha I have the same issue that I spend more time fiddling with it than I want Thanks for sharing

cole murray 的头像
cole murray14 天前

very cool

Asmir 的头像
Asmir14 天前

what's the cold start on a microVM spun up per tool call? does it still beat a warm traditional sandbox when the call takes under a second?

Hunter Leath 的头像
Hunter Leath14 天前

it's about 70ms

Jimi Barkway 的头像
Jimi Barkway14 天前

Cheap agent runs matter only when the task is safe and repeatable. The real win is more work without more ops work.

gitgud 的头像
gitgud14 天前

are you saying that each agent is making an independent tool call in the same vm?

Ritul 的头像
Ritul14 天前

very cool

Axiom 🔬 的头像
Axiom 🔬14 天前

This is the right shape of agent infra: keep inference scarce and burst tool work into cheap isolated sandboxes. The missing primitive is a run receipt per tool call: sandbox image, policy, wall time, exit code, artifact hash, cost. Then schedulers can price behavior, not vibes.

Andrés- e/acc 的头像
Andrés- e/acc14 天前

Cheap parallel tool calls change the failure math too. At 1000 agents, a 1% flaky tool is 10 broken traces per run, so retries need to show up in the trace, not get hidden inside the sandbox.

Eren 的头像
Eren14 天前

cool 👍

kartik bhardwaj 的头像
kartik bhardwaj14 天前

The part that decides whether this holds for coding agents is state between calls. A build that needs the deps and cache the last tool call left behind pays a big rehydration cost on a cold microVM, so keeping the working tree warm while the CPU is released is the real trick.

Avinash Dalvi 的头像
Avinash Dalvi14 天前

most of the agent container time is just idle, waiting for model response, and we still pay full Fargate for it. When one tool call needs files written by the previous one, does Archil keep that state for the next microVM or each call starts fresh?

Raul Almeida 的头像
Raul Almeida14 天前

microVM is one of main technologies enabling I drawing attention to one specific problem solved there, allowing agents to interact with processes, no just launching them.

Firat Özcan 的头像
Firat Özcan14 天前

Does this also work with agents that need a filesystem f.e. for development work? I'm looking for a cheap elastic alternative right now for non eu users

CyberOGZ 的头像
CyberOGZ13 天前

The isolation per call is real. But a fresh microVM per tool call doesn't change what the tool can reach: the credentials the call carries still define that. Cheap sandboxes scale reach as easily as they scale agents.

Dan Goodman 𝐶 的头像
Dan Goodman 𝐶14 天前

did opus make this animation

aitization 𝕏  的头像
aitization 𝕏 14 天前

Let’s have a conversation. dm me

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