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"This Gear Solved A Problem Most Engineers Couldn't Handle" At first, engineers thought gears only needed one thing. Teeth that mesh. But when factories started running bigger machines at higher torque and speed, something strange happened. The gears sounded like metal hammers smashing together. Vibration exploded. Bearings wore out...

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Sabhaya Mitul5 months ago

Installed in a rolling mill coupled with 15 ton flywheel and 1200 hp motor

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Pete Sise5 months ago

Most Navy ship reduction gears utilize double helical instead of herringbone due to the stress induced at the "V" of the herringbone tooth intersection.

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🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿Johnny🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿5 months ago

Here’s some anchor winch gears i was working on the Transocean Rather, all 4 winches got upgraded..

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Dan5 months ago

Race car gear boxes use straight gears for strength and quick shifting they are also super loud. A manual straight cut gearbox will shift without the clutch. F1 gearboxes are briefly in two gears at the same time. When one gets a pushed in the other gets pushed out shifting gears in milliseconds. They are actually in two gears at once for a brief moment.

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Personne5 months ago

And the mirrored tooth geometry is still the emblem of Citroën, a french car company. André Citroën did not invent the manufacturing process of double chevron, but buyed the licence and used it to create the logo.

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Robert Durand5 months ago

A big difference is the amount of teeth in contact, which impacts both load capacity and smoothness (smoothness translates to wear). The number of teeth in contact varies as the gear rotates. A herringbone (double helix) gear, with teeth cut at an angle (helix angle) rather than straight across, multiple teeth share the load simultaneously. (~3.5 teeth in contact on average), where cog/spur gears have ~1.2-1.7 teeth in contact over time (1.4 is typical). More teeth in contact = more power can be transmitted. But more teeth is also smoother: a cog/spur gear cycles abruptly between 1 and 2 pairs of teeth in contact, briefly having just a single tooth transmitting the load. A herringbone gear (Ratio 3.5): cycles smoothly between 3 and 4 pairs of teeth in contact. Herringbone gears are great for high-power speed reduction applications, such as a main engine reduction gear on a ship (fast steam turbine to slow propeller shaft), where the gears are fixed in place and that is your gear ratio for life - the gears don't clutch in and out. (As noted, the axial forces are cancelled out) Expensive to build, reserved for specific use cases.

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Peyton Baker5 months ago

Couldn't you just use two helical gears side by side?

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ales5 months ago

Citroën, Andre.

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89陶兵5 months ago

How about make two in mirror and bolt them together?

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Gina McAuliffe5 months ago

Unless I am very much mistaken, I would state that my Singer sewing machine from 1963 has these gears. It's a beast of a machine and sews incredibly well. The stitches it produces are a work of art.

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mmv5 months ago

Double Herringbone gears transmission i harder to asemble and disassemble. It's impossible to slide gear from side.

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LSMO5 months ago

The Citroen Logo Sir

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andy5 months ago

Try making the contact surface resemble a wave and i bet it would work even better. No sense in using straight lines when your motion is circular and periodic. Look up the bike wheel that uses sinusodial shape and its efficiency. Also use a prime number of teeth.

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Mike Cowgill5 months ago

How can you talk about herringbone gears and not mention Andre Citroen? Its even in the company logo on their cars.

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Larry Povlacs5 months ago

Beautiful, but a Sumitomo (cycloidal reducers) is better than gears anyway.

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gypsymoth5 months ago

...hellical!

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Tom Brosz5 months ago

At some point, 3D printing technology will get to where heavy-duty high-stress metal parts can be made. Don't think we're there yet, but I haven't looked lately.

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KPFlynn5 months ago

What does engineer mean in this post? What do you mean engineers avoid them? These were invented by multiple engineers by definition

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Ben McDonnell5 months ago

Was it not Citroen that invented the double herringbone gear? That's why their logo is 2 chevrons, or so I thought.

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Ciccio Laudani5 months ago

Grazie al sig Citroen. Ed è ancora il marchio Ruota dentata elicoidale a spinta eliminata

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Andrew Kaluzniacki5 months ago

Citroen - double chevron //\\ // \\

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kangkang5 months ago

I find herringbone gear design absolutely fascinating for high load applications

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Wheeled Edgy5 months ago

Smooth is fast

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Anthony Cometto5 months ago

Just make two…mirror images…instead of machining it that way

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Bradley Johnson5 months ago

Life cycle cost analysis. Use only when needed.

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Entier Spectre5 months ago

Quand vous mettez la première lettre de chaque mot en majuscule (première ligne), cela fausse la traduction.

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Caydence Billingsly3 months ago

Engineer: A straight-tooth gear will do. Reality: The gear is screeching. Helical gear: I’m here to save the day—and solve the axial force problem while I’m at it.😂

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Bucks Reincarnate5 months ago

A) spur gearing is still used and does not "explode" B) you don't need thrust bearings just because you are using single helical gear sets 😂

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Nathaniel Oghene5 months ago

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Linda3 months ago

Very smooth

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John Robertson5 months ago

They also sacrifice torque. So its not all good news. Traditional gears do not.

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Yungee5 months ago

Genius stuff! Thanks for the explanation. I had seen such gears before but I never stopped to think "why?".

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