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'This is a very real phenomenon. Congress is talking about an interdimensional origin, a form of intelligence we don't understand.' Author and UFO expert Jonathan Caplan discusses evidence of alien life on earth, and what their agenda might be for visiting our planet.
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![Jonathan Caplan, author of Not For Disclosure: "There's no question about it. The evidence is real [that UAP and NHI are real]. It's very extensive and it demonstrates a very clear phenomenon. The debate now is no longer whether this is a real phenomenon or not. In Washington, it's an open secret that it is. The debate now is trying to force disclosure." If you followed my posts as I read Not For Disclosure, you'll know that in my opinion, it is one of the most well researched and insightful books on the UFO topic. With that said, Caplan is VERY well connected. So when he speaks de facto statements, they don't come from supposition. Not for Disclosure is not an option anymore...](https://image.24vids.com/tw-2095662826950152534/amplify_video_thumb/2095661528494338048/img/kq0G-NnnpkhzhisV.jpg)
!["There is no doubt at all that the Americans have been in possession of crashed craft since the 1940s." "In Washington, it's an open secret that [the UFO phenomenon is real]." "There's no question [we've had aliens here on Earth.]" "Do [aliens] believe in God?" (Nice to have this coverage on Sky News. I just bought his book for .99 on Kindle so we'll see if there's anything new.) H/T: UfosAroundTheWorld Jonathan Caplan, KC (King's Counsel): "My day job is a barrister and, of course, this is completely out of sync with that. But it's a subject which I've followed very closely for 50 years. I've met most of the key scientists, researchers - through them, and my job - introductions to intelligence officers who've spoken to me off the record for a long time now. And I decided to write, 'Not For Disclosure' to allow people to have an informed debate on this very important topic." ("Barrister refers to a lawyer in the United Kingdom and other common law countries whose role is court advocacy and to provide counsel to their clients in specialized areas of law." ~Source: Cornell Law School) Wilfred Frost (WF): "The reason I set it up with what the job is, is, I mean, your day job is, literally, evidence-based. Hardcore, prove-beyond-a-reasonable-doubt." Caplan: "Yes." WF: "And you, in this book feel you've got that level of evidence to prove..." Caplan: "There's no question about it. The evidence is real. I've chosen the real evidence. It is very extensive. It demonstrates a very-clear phenomenon. And the debate now is no longer whether this is a real phenomenon or not. In Washington, it's an open secret that it is, and the debate now is trying to force disclosure because Congress has been misled for 80 years, and governments in many countries around the world have followed the same policy to hide this phenomenon from more public exposure." WF: "So you are absolutely certain we've had aliens here on Earth?" Caplan: "There's no question." WF: "Are you struck that I'm still quite surprised about...?" Caplan: "Yes, I think we have to go back, in fact, to the 1940s when this subject was, in fact, debunked officially by the Americans, it was followed by the British, and by Five Eyes. But the evidence is overwhelming. Many intelligence officials have now come forward to attest to that. "There is no question, for example, that UAPs have appeared over all nuclear facilities. They've interacted with many military exercises, and there is a lot of hard evidence. And I'm not talking about witnesses, I'm talking about data which exists, much of which has never been released." (We need a TON more data. Let's see the good stuff, assuming it exists.) Caplan: "And Congress now knows the truth that it has been lied to for 80 years. Many tax dollars have been misappropriated to fund UAP programs, and there is now a big debate with the Pentagon to release the information. WF: "Can you understand why governments have hidden this secret?" Caplan: "Yes. I think two reasons. One - and I accept these concepts are very difficult for people to grasp, which is one of the reasons I've written the book - there is no doubt at all that the Americans have been in possession of crashed craft since the 1940s, and they've recovered others since then. So have the Chinese and so have the Russians. And there are big technological reverse engineering programs into the technology of this mysterious phenomenon, and obviously whoever wins that will have a very dominant position. "I think the other reason is that there's a real fear that, despite the money and time that's been spent on this, they really are unsure as to a number of key questions. And simply to announce that there's a phenomenon without being able to answer, well, what's the agenda? Where are they from? Do they believe in God? Questions of that kind would cause a lot of destabilization." WF: "A bigger question to me would be: Do they come in peace?" Caplan: "Exactly." WF: "Do we know...do you know...address that in the book?" Caplan: "I do address in the book, so far as I...we know. And, of course, there's a department within the CIA, the Counter Proliferation Mission, which has that very subject as its brief, and it is assisted in intelligence and information from the State Department. China also has its own programs into this. So does Russia." WF: "And just finally, Jonathan, I mean, in terms of what we hope comes from this publication... I mean, do you think that we'll make it very clear in the years ahead and have an open discussion about it, or do you think the governments will continue to try and keep it secret?" Caplan: "I think the time is coming when we're gonna have to have more open discussion. It's already happening. And I think the key is to have an informed debate, people need to have information. We need to have a syllabus where this subject is taught by academia, where we've got more recognized research in proper universities and institutions."](https://image.24vids.com/tw-2095599851023298704/amplify_video_thumb/2095590841402437632/img/xMQ_ZPkiVrX44jNT.jpg)
![👽 Is The UFO Phenomenon "Attacking" Us and We Just Don't Realize It? 👽 "We're not seeing any aggression right now [from the UFO Phenomenon." ~Mellon "They might have been attacking us for centuries already...through the manipulation of consciousness." ~Levenda (IMO, this is a very limited view of things from Mellon. I'll include more from Levenda after this short transcript.) Christopher K. Mellon: "The research that I've seen - it was quite a while ago, but - makes the logical point that a great deal of the reaction [and] impact will depend on the context. So, let's assume for a moment that things continue as they have been, which is, no aggression, no hostility, surveillance, whatever. A presence, an elusive presence. "That will be received, likely fairly, with less concern and disruption, obviously, than if it was a, you know, 'Independence-Day' scenario. I mean, we don't anticipate...we're not seeing any aggression right now. We have concerns about the seeming interest in DOD facilities, but we're not seeing any kind of hostility. This has been going on for a long, long time. Chances are it'll probably continue more or less as it has, which isn't disrupting or Earth-threatening." (All of that, apparent, interest in our DOD facilities and surveillance, may be misdirection from what the phenomenon is actually doing here. That MUST be considered.) Leslie Kean: "Yeah, that's a really good point. And I think it also depends on what is actually said when the announcement is made, and also what kind of proof is presented. Because they're gonna have to offer something to really prove that this is not just...that this is the real deal." ~~~ (IMO, this is the way we SHOULD look at the phenomenon, and this essay is a big reason why I value Peter Levenda's opinion so highly. I can't recommend it enough and I'll link to the entire thing in the replies.) Levenda: "If people insist on projecting their ideas about humans and human incentives onto the 'alien' and claiming (a) that the 'alien' has no designs on us and only comes in peace, or (b) that since the 'alien' has not attacked us so far even though they could have, easily, then their intentions must be peaceful … etc etc; these are all points of view that are inconsistent with what we do know. By definition, the 'alien' should not be considered 'human' in the sense we understand that term. We have no idea what environment gave rise to the 'alien', what its values are, how it views us. We don’t know what is important to them, and we don’t know what or how they think about what is important to us. We keep projecting our (21st century North American) ideas, concepts, and conceits onto a Phenomenon about which we know virtually nothing. Ironically, the less we know about It the easier that projection becomes. We accept that their technology is somehow superior to ours, without being able to define 'superior' in that context, instead of just 'other'. Some of us assume that if the 'alien' has superior technology then it must be spiritually or morally superior as well. When has that ever been the case on this planet in all of our recorded history? Technologically advanced civilizations routinely invade, colonize, and brutalize less advanced ones. Thus, we have no expectation – based purely on our own experience as human beings of planet Earth – that another race would be benign. In fact, we would have to anticipate the worst. "A better approach might be to ascertain whether the 'alien' is hostile rather than 'evil': hostile to all humans, hostile to some humans, hostile to other life forms on our planet, etc. There are those who insist that this cannot be the case, that if they are hostile they would have wiped us out already. We have already addressed that argument above, but briefly: we can’t assume that they would act the way we have acted in our history. Their life expectancy, timelines and schedules might be extremely long compared to ours. Or extremely short. We simply don’t know and should not assume anything. "Hostility implies intent: that they 'intend' to destroy us somehow. They have not done so, the argument goes, so they must not be hostile. The problem with this argument is that we are assuming they would manifest their hostility by blowing something up, or attacking us the way we attack and invade our enemies. They might have been attacking us for centuries already, in ways that make sense to them and which further an agenda we can’t begin to imagine or understand. "What if they are attacking us through the manipulation of consciousness? That sounds far-fetched, but we have been doing that ourselves for a long time. It’s called psychological warfare, and includes propaganda, disinformation, misinformation, etc. including – again ironically – using the UFO Phenomenon as a means of distracting us from our own secret weapons systems. "Many contactees report communication with the 'alien' by means of telepathy. That automatically presents us with the possibility that human consciousness may be vulnerable to direct outside interference or manipulation by the 'alien.' "We are simply not trying hard enough to understand the 'alien'. "We must proceed on the assumption that the Phenomenon is dangerous to us (perhaps in ways we can’t imagine, and I can’t stress that enough) and proceed slowly and carefully."](https://image.24vids.com/tw-2066619407313535002/amplify_video_thumb/2066608049394229249/img/ooi6sxiOAQX769aG.jpg)